[QUOTE=wanderer]Anyone who claims that Pete isn't gret lead singer hasn't obviously never heared his solo shows or record

Just checkout Oceanic Concert
So muh better than Roger....[/QUOTE]

No doubt about it. Pete is a very good singer. I have no problem with Pete. In fact I do prefer Pete's singing [I]sometimes[/I]. And his solo albums are amazing. Particularly his eary 80's ones. Right up there with the best Who material, IMO. But his voice is [I]different[/I] then Roger's. And I think that's the point I have been trying to make. And Roger's voice is just better suited for many Who songs then Pete's. Pete's voice is great, but even at it's toughest can be a bit soft. And he always sounds somewhat vulnerable. And I think that's the main reason he couldn't be the primary singer for The Who. His vulnerability is not always called for. In his vocals, I mean. And Roger's aggresiveness can well give way to vulnerabilty far easier then Pete could manage those screams in WGFA and many other Who songs. Pete is more one dimensional than Roger as a singer. And although Roger has sometimes been accused of being the same, upon closer listen and consideration, I have found that not to be the case.

So I would say it's good The Who have always had two good singers in the band. They do The Who well. So far as John is concerend? Eh, I could take his croak or leave it. And Keith? I'm surprised some people notice him at all. I was on another board once and someone said too bad he died 'cause judging from his singing on 'Bell Boy' he could of had a [I]great[/I] solo career. And he went on a bit. So I got on him because I thought he was trolling. But it turns out he was the biggest Who fan on the board and was quite serious. Then he flamed me senseless for not agreeing with him! Go figure. :confused:

Keith wouldn't have even been able to play drums by around 1980 the way he was going.

[QUOTE=JohnXDoe]Do not spam in The Who thread. :angry:

I'm serious.[/QUOTE]
i wasnt spammimng u dick head i was telling lunch what an excellent job he did you moron :angry:

[QUOTE=Lunch]Keith wouldn't have even been able to play drums by around 1980 the way he was going.[/QUOTE]

He had lost a lot on Who By Numbers and Who Are You especially. Asides from the title track, the drumming on Who Are You is very mediocre and nothing compared to earlier albums. He really gained a lot of weight and that affected his drumming a lot.

np- Girl's Eyes

[QUOTE=robo2448]He had lost a lot on Who By Numbers and Who Are You especially. Asides from the title track, the drumming on Who Are You is very mediocre and nothing compared to earlier albums. He really gained a lot of weight and that affected his drumming a lot.

np- Girl's Eyes[/QUOTE] agreed*

[QUOTE=Johnny B. Good]i wasnt spammimng u dick head i was telling lunch what an excellent job he did you moron :angry:[/QUOTE]

Well then next time say it a little better. And your rudeness is not appreciated.


EDIT: Excuse me for the misunderstanding of your first post. :p

[QUOTE=robo2448]He had lost a lot on Who By Numbers and Who Are You especially. Asides from the title track, the drumming on Who Are You is very mediocre and nothing compared to earlier albums. He really gained a lot of weight and that affected his drumming a lot.
np- Girl's Eyes[/QUOTE]

Now this is of course biggest load of nonsense ever. Drumming on WBN is perfect.It is just perfect for the songs Pete wrote. Moons was always song tied no matter what I have seen people claim. Drumming had to work with in context of Pete songs.
I don't if this gets a cross what I'm trying to say with my bad english...
Anyone who has heared WBN periodshows, there's nothing wrong with his drumming.


And Pete will be always better singer than Roger... :)

[QUOTE=wanderer]Now this is of course biggest load of nonsense ever. Drumming on WBN is perfect.It is just perfect for the songs Pete wrote. Moons was always song tied no matter what I have seen people claim. Drumming had to work with in context of Pete songs.
I don't if this gets a cross what I'm trying to say with my bad english...
Anyone who has heared WBN periodshows, there's nothing wrong with his drumming.


And Pete will be always better singer than Roger... :)[/QUOTE]

Uhh... well WBN is up there with Tommy as my favorite Who album, and while there's nothing wrong with the drumming, it is not anywhere near as good as the drumming on Tommy for example. Still, the drumming on WBN is a lot better than on Who Are You. Big drumming decline on that album.

pete's vocal harmonies = the seckorz.

[QUOTE=JohnXDoe]So I would say it's good The Who have always had two good singers in the band. They do The Who well. So far as John is concerend? Eh, I could take his croak or leave it. And Keith? I'm surprised some people notice him at all. I was on another board once and someone said too bad he died 'cause judging from his singing on 'Bell Boy' he could of had a [I]great[/I] solo career. And he went on a bit. So I got on him because I thought he was trolling. But it turns out he was the biggest Who fan on the board and was quite serious. Then he flamed me senseless for not agreeing with him! Go figure. :confused:[/QUOTE]

A freind of mine has Keith Moon's solo album, which I'm going to borrow soon. I doubt it could be as good as Townsend's solo albums, though.

[QUOTE=JohnXDoe]So far as John is concerend? Eh, I could take his croak or leave it.[/QUOTE]

He added a third part to the harmony, which was alright. Also, his croak makes Summertime Blues what it is =p

As far as vocals, Pete just didn't have the range that Roger did, without going into falsetto. It's my opinion that Roger was one of the better singers in rock, period.

lol yea i agree with that ^.

If Pete was better than Rodger, Pete would have sang in the first place.

[QUOTE=JohnXDoe]Well then next time say it a little better. And your rudeness is not appreciated.


EDIT: Excuse me for the misunderstanding of your first post. :p[/QUOTE]

It's ok, he's with me. He's one of us.

[QUOTE=Lunch]It's ok, he's with me. He's one of us.[/QUOTE]

Thanks, Lunch. It was a misunderstanding on my part. It's been a good thread, and I would like to keep it like that. My mistake. That's why I edited my post and asked him to excuse me. No harm done. :)

[QUOTE=JohnXDoe]Thanks, Lunch. It was a misunderstanding on my part. It's been a good thread, and I would like to keep it like that. My mistake. That's why I edited my post and asked him to excuse me. No harm done. :)[/QUOTE]

No harm done indeed. We're all Who fans in here :thumb:

[QUOTE=RNR]If Pete was better than Rodger, Pete would have sang in the first place.[/QUOTE]
haha. true. and robert plant wouldnt have offered to sing for them when he went to see them and they had kicked roger out temporarily for one reason or another and pete was singing.

[QUOTE=Lunch]No harm done indeed. We're all Who fans in here :thumb:[/QUOTE]

And that's why I may of overreacted. I really thought someone had just posted in a mocking sort of way. Being a smart a[COLOR=WHITE]ss[/COLOR], you know? And I figured why do that? For instance I don't like a lot of bands I see threads devoted to, but I wouldn't go into one and spam it up. Because I know those threads are for fans to discuss the merits of the band. Again, my mistake. But I'm not a dickhead as he called me. Although a moron may not be far off the mark sometimes. :lol:

Good looking out. Johnny B. Good wasn't around for awhile, but I do remember having some good Who discussions with him back in the day.

Quadrophenia is really owning me right now. For awhile I didn't find it all that impressive but recently it has been amazing. John, you and I seem the be the opposite in this sense. Tommy has always been my favorite album, yet it just recently grew on you, where as you love Quadrophenia and it just recently grew on me.

[QUOTE=PinkFreud]haha. true. and robert plant wouldnt have offered to sing for them when he went to see them and they had kicked roger out temporarily for one reason or another and pete was singing.[/QUOTE]

Robert Plant singing for The Who? Sounds like not such a good idea. Although I'm sure he could pull off the earlier R&B style stuff pretty well. I can almost hear him singing My Generation. But then I come back to my senses!

:smash:

i looooove their early r&b stuff.

Disc 1 of the Thirty Years of Maximum R&B is basically fantastic the whole way through because it gives you all that stuff that isn't available just on their albums.

[QUOTE=Lunch]Good looking out. Johnny B. Good wasn't around for awhile, but I do remember having some good Who discussions with him back in the day.

Quadrophenia is really owning me right now. For awhile I didn't find it all that impressive but recently it has been amazing. John, you and I seem the be the opposite in this sense. Tommy has always been my favorite album, yet it just recently grew on you, where as you love Quadrophenia and it just recently grew on me.[/QUOTE]

You know it really is funny you should say that. Because I listened to Quadrophenia the other night start to finish and had a thought to listen to Tommy again, start to finish. And really try to appreciate it. And not the live versions from Leeds or The Isle of Wright, but the original album. I really want to understand where Pete was coming from. I'm going to give it a go tonite before I go to bed.

And I'm glad to hear you are enjoying Quadrophenia more. When I listened to it the other night it was such a pleasure. It's like a journey for me. The ocean at the beginning, the musical pieces, and just the songs and the story itself. It really moves me. When I hear that album in it's entirety I really feel like I have travelled somewhere. Like I've gone from one point to another. As corny as that might sound, it's true. It is my favorite album ever. And one of the main reasons I love this band. Hope you continue to enjoy it.

[QUOTE=JohnXDoe]And I'm glad to hear you are enjoying Quadrophenia more. When I listened to it the other night it was such a pleasure. It's like a journey for me. The ocean at the beginning, the musical pieces, and just the songs and the story itself. It really moves me. When I hear that album in it's entirety I really feel like I have travelled somewhere. Like I've gone from one point to another. As corny as that might sound, it's true. It is my favorite album ever. And one of the main reasons I love this band. Hope you continue to enjoy it.[/QUOTE]

That's how Tommy is for me. It always has really moved me and I actually feel like I've gone somewhere (not physically of course) after listening to the album. I love the whole feel of Tommy, the light touch combined with The Who's natural style creates an great mix of the two I love.

I have never heard Tommy or Quadrophenia, though I've heard songs from each (from 30 Years Max. RnB and TKAA). I have seen the movie Tommy though. I really want to get the albums.

Anyway, even though I'm late, I agree Keith's drumming is subpar on Who Are You. I have never heard WBN (I feel like such a Who n00b) but that whole album seems drum-lacking. Except for the title track, I absolutly love the drumming in that song....in fact I think its some of Keith's best.

And **** when I heard Bell Boy, I was really impressed with Keith's singing.

You really, really need Tommy and Quadrophenia. They can't possibly be represented on a compilation.

[QUOTE=PinkFreud]i looooove their early r&b stuff.[/QUOTE]

It's great. I have the deluxe set of The Who Sing My Generation and it's just full of that stuff. The Who as swinging Sheppards Bush mods. I love it. The originals, the covers, all of it. And Keith was great even then. I love the loose feel of all that stuff.

[QUOTE=Lunch]You really, really need Tommy and Quadrophenia. They can't possibly be represented on a compilation.[/QUOTE]

That is 100% agreed. And Seafroggys, if you get a music service of some sort they usually feature some Who albums. I have MusicMatch Jukebox and they have a good variety of Who stuff. Not everything, but a lot of it. Only $7 a month. Pretty good deal.

The Who are such a great band I think they have so much energy ilive and it really shows on their videos.

I feel so shamed :upset:

To me WBN, SO,QA,FD,MG are the best records
however I love all the records in the end eaqually...