I kinda like this, but it's cheesy sounding.

cheesy? maybe...the singing at the end is kinda not needed...any thoughts on who the hell they are???

CEPHALIC CARNAGE ARE PLAYING HERE SOON!

just felt like pointing that out...it's gonna be great.

That's awesome dude. Cephalic Carnage are so good. I love the song Exhumed Remains.

I just heard about the drummer from Cryptopsy claiming he can do a double blastbeat. How is that possible?

Cos Flo is a dork.

What?

Dillinger Escape Plan isn't grind. The best band in the world, yeah, but not grind.

Grindcore = making as much noise as a person can make. That's basically grind. No melody (maybe a little bit in intro's), no real structure. Just...short burst of noise. And if it doesn't have a blastbeat, it's not grind.

[QUOTE=JAtomic]CEPHALIC CARNAGE ARE PLAYING HERE SOON!

just felt like pointing that out...it's gonna be great.[/QUOTE]


They played here not too long ago, but I missed them. I hate myself for missing them.

[QUOTE=Kosta]They played here not too long ago, but I missed them. I hate myself for missing them.[/QUOTE]
that sucks. im not missing this show for anything. and they recently moved it to an all ages venue so it's only gonna be $10. gah, can't wait, unfortunatley it is a good while away.

Everyone should listen to Battle Of Disarm - A great jap crust band

[QUOTE=MILF Hunter]Everyone should listen to Battle Of Disarm - A great jap crust band[/QUOTE]
:thumb:

[QUOTE=RetiredAt21]What?[/QUOTE]
Flo = drummer from Cryptopsy


I like Lykathea Aflame. [url]http://obscene.cz/mp3/038.mp3[/url]

Ed Gein
The Number 12 Looks Like You
As the Sun Sets
The Locust
Pig Destroyer.

Mmmmmm

[QUOTE=SGlove]Ed Gein
The Number 12 Looks Like You
As the Sun Sets
The Locust
Pig Destroyer.

Mmmmmm[/QUOTE]
i dont think the number twelve looks like you would be considered grind, more like technical metal/post hardcore. though they do kick *** and put on an even better live show.

I wouldn't call them post hardcore. But yeah, they definitely aren't grind.

i know what crust is
what is grind?

Grind is a type of metal/punk which often consists of blast beats, growling/screaming, metallic riffing and stuff. Short songs, usually under a minute and often political in nature. A lot of people credit Napalm Death with inventing it, but I say eff that and point the credit towards Siege. As you have probably already read, I consider a lot of grind now a days to be crappy death metal, partly in thanks to Napalm Death. There is a subgenre of grind called powerviolence which is grind that is punk rather than metal, though a lot of grindheads don't seem to know about powerviolence and it is usually considered a genre in its own right rather than a subgenre of grind.

[QUOTE=Toe Rag]Grind is a type of metal/punk which often consists of blast beats, growling/screaming, metallic riffing and stuff. Short songs, usually under a minute and often political in nature. A lot of people credit Napalm Death with inventing it, but I say eff that and point the credit towards Siege. As you have probably already read, I consider a lot of grind now a days to be crappy death metal, partly in thanks to Napalm Death. There is a subgenre of grind called powerviolence which is grind that is punk rather than metal, though a lot of grindheads don't seem to know about powerviolence and it is usually considered a genre in its own right rather than a subgenre of grind.[/QUOTE]
BRAVO!

although i still disagree about the whole death metal thing, but thats cause ive always been a big fan of metal, so the death metal deal doesnt bother me none. hell, i used to be in a death metal band. nice explanation though. :thumb:

Okay, so I need to know proper definitions for the following:

grindcore
spazzcore
emoviolence
powerviolence

So far, I can only make minor delineations between them, and they all seem to apply like a venn diagram. Someone who knows this stuff better than I do explain it.

[QUOTE=syurix]Okay, so I need to know proper definitions for the following:

grindcore
spazzcore
emoviolence
powerviolence

So far, I can only make minor delineations between them, and they all seem to apply like a venn diagram. Someone who knows this stuff better than I do explain it.[/QUOTE]
grindcore/grind and powerviolence are explained in Toe Rags last post

Emo violence is just really spazzy screamo, basically power violence. In/Humanity coined the term and are really the only band I apply the term too, even though they don't really have that much emotion.

Yeah, as the above poster said, emo violence is supposed to be mega fast emo. Stuff that gets the label is Orchid, Love Lost but Not Forgotten, In/Humanity and probably a lot of other stuff I don't know. Spazzcore is supposed to be, as the names suggests, spazzy hardcore. Stuff like Blood Brothers and Antioch Arrow. I can't stand it.

I never use spazzcore.

Me neither. Same with "emo violence"

Spazzcore pretty much guarantees the band is composed of a bunch of pretty scene boys.

Pretty scene boys=every band in Lancaster

Except for The Scarlet Affair *dry heaves*

[QUOTE=JAtomic]BRAVO!

although i still disagree about the whole death metal thing, but thats cause ive always been a big fan of metal, so the death metal deal doesnt bother me none. hell, i used to be in a death metal band. nice explanation though. :thumb:[/QUOTE]


Also, I'd still consider powerviolence a form of grind. I mean, it has the exact same ingridients, and it's performed in the same way, there's just more emphasis on the punk rather than the metal. But I don't think that would make it a different genre.

I listen to Nausea, F-Minus, Experiment In Terror(rip) and a couple other bands like that. I guess that counts as punk/crust.

As for grind, I mainly listen to more metalic grind such as Ed Gein, **** The Facts, Ion D, Numbers Revolt, Discord Of A Forgotten Sketch, Cobra Noir, etc...

[QUOTE=Kosta]Also, I'd still consider powerviolence a form of grind. I mean, it has the exact same ingridients, and it's performed in the same way, there's just more emphasis on the punk rather than the metal. But I don't think that would make it a different genre.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I didn't really mean it was a different genre. It's hard to explain. Most grind kids don't seem to be up on powerviolence because most grind kids come from metal whereas pv kids come from punk. PV /is/ grind, but grind is most often considered metal and pv is definately punk, so people tend to seperate the two. I hope that makes sense.