within the ruins are pretty cool dudes

[QUOTE=phil_ares;17752563]Lol? Talent is a stupid argument for why I shouldn't like them?

I hope that was a poopty attempt at trolling.[/QUOTE]

no seriously, how do you measure how much more talented one band is than another?

and its like, august burns red is more technically proficient maybe, but its still a dumb reason to dislike a band

anyway, texas in july's first album is a lot better than their new one

kind of lame that they never came to allentown until they got signed, it wouldve been cool to play shows in shitty small venues with them

how do you measure how much more talented one band is than another?

I guess the only way to judge a bands talent is how proficient they're on their releases and live shows but even that's hard to judge cause great musicians don't necessary perform to show off how complex their song writing abilities are.

Still that said Dave of Botch (ya ya) is a much more talented guitarist then almost every metalcore guitarist (even kurt). Show me a song as complex and brutal as Transitions From Persona To Object, which is probably the best metalcore song ever written. He was probably the same age if not younger than the ABR boys. And after he was done slaying in the metalcore realm he kills it in a indie band.

Whatever I'm going off on a tangent but ya Dave is probably my favourite guitarist.

yeah man wouldnt it be awesome to suck his d

Seriously.

Listening to TEOAT's debut album again.

Would be so much better if the vocals were different.

Best guitarist ever is Wil Killingsworth, Orchid, Wolves, Bucket Full Of Teeth, and Ampere are all 100% win.

Wil Killingsworth is def one of the best screamo guitarist, though I'd say Josh Jakubowski (Hot Cross, Joshua Fit for Battle, Neil Perry) is better.

[QUOTE=HighandDriving;17752873]how do you measure how much more talented one band is than another?

I guess the only way to judge a bands talent is how proficient they're on their releases and live shows but even that's hard to judge cause great musicians don't necessary perform to show off how complex their song writing abilities are.

Still that said Dave of Botch (ya ya) is a much more talented guitarist then almost every metalcore guitarist (even kurt). Show me a song as complex and brutal as Transitions From Persona To Object, which is probably the best metalcore song ever written. He was probably the same age if not younger than the ABR boys. And after he was done slaying in the metalcore realm he kills it in a indie band.

Whatever I'm going off on a tangent but ya Dave is probably my favourite guitarist.[/QUOTE]

Page turn for the truth.

[QUOTE=HighandDriving;17753607]Wil Killingsworth is def one of the best screamo guitarist, though I'd say Josh Jakubowski (Hot Cross, Joshua Fit for Battle, Neil Perry) is better.[/QUOTE]

i like what wil writes betterer

also doods from envy

Really the guys from Envy?

Also some Ampere riffs are kinda old hot crossish :)

Been listening to botch more lately, so I def agree with you HAD.

[QUOTE=witchxrapist;17753612]also doods from envy[/QUOTE]

wtf y

[QUOTE=HighandDriving;17753614]Really the guys from Envy?[/quote]
dude, they write some of the prettiest musics ever srsly whats wrong with you

i'm not talking from a technical standpoint

[quote]Also some Ampere riffs are kinda old hot crossish :)[/QUOTE]

not really

This isn't the screamo thread guyz. Anyways yeah... new DSHS = AOTY.

I'm gonna do one of those "top 10 best breakdowns ever" videos and it's all gonna be Norma Jean. :lol:

[QUOTE=witchxrapist;17753914]I'm gonna do one of those "top 10 best breakdowns ever" videos and it's all gonna be Norma Jean. :lol:[/QUOTE]

lmao Do it. Please. For me.

[QUOTE=Si1v3RfaNg;17753911]This isn't the screamo thread guyz. Anyways yeah... new DSHS = AOTY.[/QUOTE]

They haven't released any songs from it yet, and the recording videos were very brief.

But I am extremely excited just because it's DSHS.

[QUOTE=Si1v3RfaNg;17753916]lmao Do it. Please. For me.[/QUOTE]

i am right now

shotgun message has "OMG DEATH METAL RIFFS IN A BREAKDOWN?!" flash up

gonna slip sum this runs through and other similar nonsense in like 2-3 non NJ breakdowns lol.

listening to Pass the Flask

[QUOTE=witchxrapist;17753934]i am right now

shotgun message has "OMG DEATH METAL RIFFS IN A BREAKDOWN?!" flash up

gonna slip sum this runs through and other similar nonsense in like 2-3 non NJ breakdowns lol.[/QUOTE]

This should be epic.

Edit@Frankie: Yeah it's gonna rule just because it's them. Any idea when they're expecting it to come out?

[QUOTE=witchxrapist;17753908]dude, they write some of the prettiest musics ever srsly whats wrong with you

i'm not talking from a technical standpoint



not really[/QUOTE]

They are good, but not da best.


And ya some Ampere riffs sound similar to New Set Of Lungs ish.

[QUOTE=Si1v3RfaNg;17753941]This should be epic.

Edit@Frankie: Yeah it's gonna rule just because it's them. Any idea when they're expecting it to come out?[/QUOTE]

Early 2010 is all I know.

I'm expecting a UK tour at the same time which'll be awesome.

[QUOTE=HighandDriving;17754007]They are good, but not da best.


And ya some Ampere riffs sound similar to New Set Of Lungs ish.[/QUOTE]

take it to da emo thrad

ur p wrong

thats a v common thing in skramz lol

u scweaaaaam

luv it or leave iiiiiiit

[QUOTE=2muchket!;17754038]Early 2010 is all I know.

I'm expecting a UK tour at the same time which'll be awesome.[/QUOTE]

There better be, i've missed them 3 times:mad:

[QUOTE=SmurkinGherkin;17754365]There better be, i've missed them 3 times:mad:[/QUOTE]

heresy man. they're signed to century, they're big time now so expect EU/US tour aswell if the album goes down well

Sweet, I just got invited to do vocals for some band that's having their first practice tomorrow.

It's gonna be Underoath-y stuff, so stoked!

which underoath though

if it's tocs i can arrange someone to punch you in the nose for the cleans