[QUOTE=FockerTheLopper]Not a test or a challange but how would you say a man should act? You tell us how he shouldn't but you leave out alot of space of how he should.[/QUOTE]

You'd like more rules? You wanna wear a uniform too?

And I suppose if he had told you things you should do and neglected to tell you what you should [I]not[/I] do, then you would be equally upset?

[QUOTE=Futuro]Pot? Hallucinogenics?

Anyway this statement proves you are not a man. You are not man enough for anything. Your mom still must correct your errors? You are infact a child, who has been brainwashed by too many Girls Gone Wild commercials, Who has no real responsibility.[/QUOTE]
Now its a bad thing to have good parents? I'm sorry but thats very ignorant. That was also 2 years ago, I have grown a whole lot since then and again, why make assumptions. How don't I have any responsibility? Care to use examples?

[QUOTE=Double Bass Jim]You drink for the taste right ^? Focker your a dumbass

How tall you are? I'll need to know when we line everyone up in order of height for execution.[/QUOTE]
No, I don't but I don't take down 10 shots in 5 minutes, I drink mixed drinks.

Different drinking for taste and enjoying your drink. Well accually okay I see how you got that confused, oh I'm around 5'8 I'll be killed fairly quicky :wave:

[QUOTE=FockerTheLopper]Okay I understand that she doesn't overthink but girls really aren't that stupid, they do what they would do when they're sober.[/QUOTE]

No they don't. It's physically impossible. Alcohol alters your thinking, it's scientifically proven. You show me the results to some scientific studies that claim alchohol has zero effect on your thinking and I'll start to think about what you said.

[QUOTE=FockerTheLopper]No, I don't but I don't take down 10 shots in 5 minutes, I drink mixed drinks.

Different drinking for taste and enjoying your drink. Well accually okay I see how you got that confused, oh I'm around 5'8 I'll be killed fairly quicky :wave:[/QUOTE]

how is it different? clearly you are drinking it because you enjoy the flavour, if you didn't you wouldn't be enjoying it.

[QUOTE=Seafroggys]drugs? at 14?

I'm sorry, your ****ed for life.[/QUOTE]
My life was pretty ****ed up, I'm happy now, and where I want to be.

[QUOTE=FockerTheLopper]How don't I have any responsibility? Care to use examples?[/QUOTE]

How are you irresponsible? When you were fourteen years old, your mom had to take away your drugs.

Sounds to me like you were pretty irresponsible.

First learn to read focker.

[QUOTE]Now its a bad thing to have good parents?[/QUOTE]
Your parents are not good. If your doing something just as bad 2 years later, how can you call your parents good?

[QUOTE]
I'm sorry but thats very ignorant.[/QUOTE]I already stated your parents suck making your "Point" Meaningless"


[QUOTE]That was also 2 years ago, I have grown a whole lot since then and again.[/QUOTE] I couldnt tell. Instead of drugs it is Liquor.

[QUOTE]Care to use examples?[/QUOTE] You said it yourself. You depended on your parents at 14. You are now making the same mistake at 16.

It is pretty clear to me....

[QUOTE=Motleyguy]how is it different? clearly you are drinking it because you enjoy the flavour, if you didn't you wouldn't be enjoying it.[/QUOTE]
Well no because I though jim meant that drinking for flavour meant something along the lines of drinking because it tastes good. I don't like drinking drinks that I make faces after I sip.

[QUOTE=FockerTheLopper]My life was pretty ****ed up, I'm happy now, and where I want to be.[/QUOTE]

the sad thing about that is that at 14....FOURTEEN!!!! your life was ****ed up.

You are still a fricken kid, who has hardly known much of life, if any.

If you can get ****ed at 14.........****, I don't know what else to say.

[QUOTE=Futuro]First learn to read focker.


Your parents are not good. If your doing something just as bad 2 years later, how can you call your parents good?

I already stated your parents suck making your "Point" Meaningless"


I couldnt tell. Instead of drugs it is Liquor.

You said it yourself. You depended on your parents at 14. You are now making the same mistake at 16.

It is pretty clear to me....[/QUOTE]
I don't drink every day, every week, every month even. Its not something that I've become acostomed too. I don't drink the same way I used to do drugs, I drink because it makes it easier to socialize especially if your at the same level as everyone.

MAJOR difference as drinking every week just for the sake of getting drunk because you can.

[QUOTE=FockerTheLopper]Well no because I though jim meant that drinking for flavour meant something along the lines of drinking because it tastes good. I don't like drinking drinks that I make faces after I sip.[/QUOTE]

So you drink for the childish reason of getting ****ed up. Good job, you've really proved how you've grown up since your drug problem days.

[quote]I don't drink every day, every week, every month even. Its not something that I've become acostomed too. I don't drink the same way I used to do drugs, I drink because it makes it easier to socialize especially if your at the same level as everyone.

MAJOR difference as drinking every week just for the sake of getting drunk because you can.[/quote]

how exactly does it make it easier to socialize? If you need alcohol to talk to people, you have issues.

[QUOTE=Seafroggys]the sad thing about that is that at 14....FOURTEEN!!!! your life was ****ed up.

You are still a fricken kid, who has hardly known much of life, if any.

If you can get ****ed at 14.........****, I don't know what else to say.[/QUOTE]
Well I was ****ed up because of drugs I wasn't ****ed up and turned to drugs, it was the wrong crowd I was with.

[QUOTE=Motleyguy]So you drink for the childish reason of getting ****ed up. Good job, you've really proved how you've grown up since your drug problem days.[/QUOTE]
I just said I don't drink just to get drunk. Thats just as bad or worse as drugs. I drink because it makes it easier to meet people and if being sober around drunk people is no fun.

Trust me I’ve seen everything there is pretty much, one of the best experiences I’ve had was being around the local music scene in HS. You start to see how scummy people are and it baffles me what people are capable of. I always thought you had to have something wrong with you to act that way... I still do. I can't stand that kinda stuff and when I saw what was going on I don't wanna be around or be apart of that or even be associated with it in ANYWAY. Even if I don't act in the vice that’s occurring it's still disgusting and wrong IMO. Although as a simple observer you can't really do much just sit back and watch it collapse... which is just as fun! "I enjoy entropy" just as the great George Carlin once said about the world.

Shame is a good thing and some people don't have any, people don't have any respect. People don't think about the consiqunces of their actions. They let their pressured feelings override everything and that’s why stupid things happen. Young people are retarded so are old people and it will never change. You'll always have everyone with that inner need to fit in, that need to drink, that need to smoke and dope up, that need to have sex with everyone on the block and collect more STD's then a glam rock band. Don’t make excuses for what you do either… It doesn’t work, I smoke for the flavor! I drink for the taste! I do drugs to relax... WRONG you do it because you’re insecure you wanna fit in with people and you can’t do it naturally yourself.

Think about what you’re doing now, do you wanna be like this ^^? Think about it long and hard man don't be a moron. I stopped talking to almost everyone I know because of that it just gets old. The way they talk, the way they make comments, the way they look at people, the things they do. Their all scum 1000% and not even the best fake smile can hide that.

thanks for proving my point further

to fokker

[QUOTE=Epiphender]How are you irresponsible? When you were fourteen years old, your mom had to take away your drugs.

Sounds to me like you were pretty irresponsible.[/QUOTE]
Key word, were pretty irresponsible. I know I'm not the most repsonsible person on earth or not even close but I have a good amount of responsibility.

[QUOTE=FockerTheLopper]I just said I don't drink just to get drunk. Thats just as bad or worse as drugs. I drink because it makes it easier to meet people and if being sober around drunk people is no fun.[/QUOTE]

sorry, I think you missed my edit. Go back and check it out, then read what Jim said a few more times, until it sinks in.

[QUOTE=Double Bass Jim]Trust me I’ve seen everything there is pretty much, one of the best experiences I’ve had was being around the local music scene in HS. You start to see how scummy people are and it baffles me what people are capable of. I always thought you had to have something wrong with you to act that way... I still do. I can't stand that kinda stuff and when I saw what was going on I don't wanna be around or be apart of that or even be associated with it in ANYWAY. Even if I don't act in the vice that’s occurring it's still disgusting and wrong IMO. Although as a simple observer you can't really do much just sit back and watch it collapse... which is just as fun! "I enjoy entropy" just as the great George Carlin once said about the world.

Shame is a good thing and some people don't have any, people don't have any respect. People don't think about the consiqunces of their actions. They let their pressured feelings override everything and that’s why stupid things happen. Young people are retarded so are old people and it will never change. You'll always have everyone with that inner need to fit in, that need to drink, that need to smoke and dope up, that need to have sex with everyone on the block and collect more STD's then a glam rock band. Don’t make excuses for what you do either… It doesn’t work, I smoke for the flavor! I drink for the taste! I do drugs to relax... [B]WRONG you do it because you’re insecure you wanna fit in with people and you can’t do it naturally yourself.[/B]

Think about what you’re doing now, do you wanna be like this ^^? Think about it long and hard man don't be a moron. I stopped talking to almost everyone I know because of that it just gets old. The way they talk, the way they make comments, the way they look at people, the things they do. Their all scum 1000% and not even the best fake smile can hide that.[/QUOTE]
Your probably right seeing as how you have more knowledge then me but that I must disagree with. Again, I don't drink as a routine and ALL of my friends smoke cigarettes I don't. If I wanted to fit in I would. Listen, I'm trying to better myself as a person, so you don't really have to talk to me in an offensive way(like other posts). Drinking to fit in is half right. I drink to fit in in the sense that drinking to be on the same level as everyone is fun(not an exuse ooh being drunk is fun, it really is) but I don't drink just to be accept and cool, I just find that being at a party where everyone is drunk(or most) and you aren't isn't all that fun.

[QUOTE]You'll always have everyone with that inner need to fit in, that need to drink, that need to smoke
[/QUOTE]

I guess im a bad person too for smoking pot. Hypocrisy?

After reading these a couple of times I figured it out. I might be able to agree with you but if you guys are [I]a[/I]sses about it(motly) of course I'm not going to listen its human nature to go defend yourself against accusatory statements.
I see jims point and I agree. As for motly, I think you should look at yourself before looking at others.

[QUOTE=Futuro]I guess im a bad person too for smoking pot. Hypocrisy?[/QUOTE]
Your not a bad person if you do a bad thing, smoking pot is bad though.

yeah so drugs are cool

[QUOTE=FockerTheLopper]Key word, were pretty irresponsible. I know I'm not the most repsonsible person on earth or not even close but I have a good amount of responsibility.[/QUOTE]

Alright if you don't want to believe what I say and the examples I use, why don't you give it a try. Exemplify this responsibility you claim to have.

if you are relying on chemicals to make you a better person........

wow....where to start with that.....

you HAVE no person, if you catch my drift

[QUOTE=Seafroggys]if you are relying on chemicals to make you a better person........

wow....where to start with that.....

you HAVE no person, if you catch my drift[/QUOTE]
I'm not relying on chemicals. If I was I'd be getting drunk as a routine. Where did I say that I'm relying on chemicals anyway?

[QUOTE=FockerTheLopper]Your not a bad person if you do a bad thing, smoking pot is bad though.[/QUOTE]
HAHAHA

Jesus!!!!!!!

What do you think the beer can opens itself? The coke magicly finds it's way to your nose? Christ man... Just stick your head in the microwave and do us all a favor!

[QUOTE=Double Bass Jim]HAHAHA

Jesus!!!!!!!

What do you think the beer can opens itself? The coke magicly finds it's way to your nose? Christ man... Just stick your head in the microwave and do us all a favor![/QUOTE]
Your telling me the man who steals bread for his starving family is a bad person?

Hes doing a bad thing but to him morally its correct. If your morals are bad your probably bad.

[QUOTE=FockerTheLopper]After reading these a couple of times I figured it out. I might be able to agree with you but if you guys are [I]a[/I]sses about it(motly) of course I'm not going to listen its human nature to go defend yourself against accusatory statements.
I see jims point and I agree. As for motly, I think you should look at yourself before looking at others.[/QUOTE]

why exactly should I look at myself? I actually happen to think about the way I live my life quite often, and decide to make changes when changes are due, and stuff like that. I'm simply judging you, yes, judging you, on the fact that you believe it is alright to take advantage and hook up with an intoxicated girl. I don't that is right on any level, and I think you need to grow the **** up.

[QUOTE=Epiphender]Alright if you don't want to believe what I say and the examples I use, why don't you give it a try. Exemplify this responsibility you claim to have.[/QUOTE]

Come on now we're all waiting.

Oh wait, you can't do it, can you?