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Meatplow 01-05-2009 11:05 PM

[url]http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?zq0znmzgchn[/url] (better quality, less compressed)
[url]http://www.myspace.com/cripplescrossinghighways[/url]

hooray a new song (chunkhs), give me a critique and all that

Aaron 01-05-2009 11:07 PM

I want 2, even 3, shipping containers. Or 5.

big80smullet 01-06-2009 12:13 AM

ill just chuck em in the back of the astra

gaslight 01-06-2009 01:11 AM

You'd wanna pad the hell out of the inside of the shipping containers to avoid nasty metallic resonance.

big80smullet 01-06-2009 02:49 AM

nah we want gr1m as **** metallic sounds

horseypie 01-06-2009 03:03 AM

ill engineer it!

Meatplow 01-06-2009 05:49 AM

the question is:

will you wear a train drivers hat?

Aaron 01-06-2009 06:07 AM

The idea is buying two 40-footers [40'x8'x8.2'] and place them side-by-side, weld them together, and then rip out the wall between so its one big box. Then it's a 40'x16' room with 8.2' ceilings. Once that's done I want to separate the end as a tracking room [10x'16'], using the metal that was removed.

I'll put down timber floors, walls and roof, as well as some sound traps [auralex foam for 40% of the roofing]. I think, to save space, it'd be better to reinforce the whole thing externally. Once it's all done I want to redo the entry with a hardwood door. Raise the whole thing up 4' on stilts. Then I'll put in air-con once the wiring is sorted.

End result is a closed space that is all-but soundproof with two internal rooms, 10'x16' and 30'x16', that will be temperature controlled. What you think horseman/MX?

[IMG]http://i41.tinypic.com/264jdxg.jpg[/IMG]

Tech Specs for a standard 40':
Length: 12.19m
Width: 2.50m
Height: 2.90m
Tare Weight: 4,180kg

I_WEAR_RED_PANTS 01-06-2009 06:26 AM

it's a brilliant idea

Meatplow 01-06-2009 06:42 AM

aaron get on msn

gaslight 01-06-2009 06:45 AM

If you can do it, and it works, you'll have something pretty cool.

That'll be an expensive undertaking though, and you'd probably need to put the plans through the council and so on.

Aaron 01-06-2009 06:48 AM

I've been doing a bit of research. Can pick up the shipping containers for about $3,500 - $4,000 second hand from Port Botany, and it's about $400 to get them shipped within the greater Sydney Metro area. So approximately $8k for the boxes and shipping. But I've seem them a lot cheaper from private sellers trying to make room, some even at $250 each.

Council plans I'm not sure about. You don't need to notify them of having them on sites, but them being modified...

gaslight 01-06-2009 06:54 AM

Not so much 'cause of the containers, but because you're building a pretty full-on structure. I doubt they'd have issues with it though, probably just need the plans approved.

Aaron 01-06-2009 07:09 AM

Yeah. Will be epic if I get to do it.

big80smullet 01-06-2009 07:48 AM

make them so they look normal from the outside so no one knows whats in there

gaslight 01-06-2009 07:56 AM

You could live in a shipping container like the hacker chick in that X-Files episode.

horseypie 01-06-2009 07:34 PM

[QUOTE=Aaron;17007173]The idea is buying two 40-footers [40'x8'x8.2'] and place them side-by-side, weld them together, and then rip out the wall between so its one big box. Then it's a 40'x16' room with 8.2' ceilings. Once that's done I want to separate the end as a tracking room [10x'16'], using the metal that was removed.

I'll put down timber floors, walls and roof, as well as some sound traps [auralex foam for 40% of the roofing]. I think, to save space, it'd be better to reinforce the whole thing externally. Once it's all done I want to redo the entry with a hardwood door. Raise the whole thing up 4' on stilts. Then I'll put in air-con once the wiring is sorted.

End result is a closed space that is all-but soundproof with two internal rooms, 10'x16' and 30'x16', that will be temperature controlled. What you think horseman/MX?

[IMG]http://i41.tinypic.com/264jdxg.jpg[/IMG]

Tech Specs for a standard 40':
Length: 12.19m
Width: 2.50m
Height: 2.90m
Tare Weight: 4,180kg[/QUOTE]

yeah thatll work...i think maybe you wont need that much reinforcing on the outside, if youre gunna put in a wall inside you can use that to strengthen it and then maybe maybe just a post kinda thing along the seam just for a bit of strength
if youre serious ill have a bit of a look sometime at a plan but you will have to get it properly checked out and stuff

Aaron 01-06-2009 07:37 PM

So I'm on the right track? My main concern is the weld joint that'll be running the length of it. Do you think slab or stilts?

horseypie 01-06-2009 07:53 PM

i dunno it depends how thick the roof is, but a fair weld should be strong enough. run a beam down the inside underneath the seam will be fairly strong as well.

its gunna be a fair bit of labour oxycutting and welding it together...theres some dollars in that unless you have a heaps nice boilermaker mate or something

Aes820 01-06-2009 08:00 PM

I'd recommend brick stilt footings with I-beam joists. That'll be the support structure, the containers will merely sit on it.
Don't rely on that middle weld joint to hold any structural integrity, because it wont.

I think anything you do will need council approval, because it sounds like a pretty serious structure. Plus, if you want to record in something, you'd want to avoid anything with parallel walls, as they can introduce nasty reverberations - but this can easily be avoided with a few angled plywood panels underneath any insulation.
I've got a spare shipping container in my backyard that you can have if you want, but it's currently full of dead refugees - so you'll need to give us a hand to get rid of them if you want it.

Meatplow 01-06-2009 08:02 PM

[QUOTE=gaslight;17007308]You could live in a shipping container like the hacker chick in that X-Files episode.[/QUOTE]

this turns me on for some reason

gaslight 01-06-2009 08:03 PM

Woodchipper.

Also, won't you need some sort of crane to lift the shipping containers 4' off the ground?

Also if I could suggest something, do double doors for it. Not like, two side by side, but door then another door. You get that in rehearsal studios and stuff. Top shelf recording studios often have just one insanely thick door. Doors are a key weakness in soundproofing.

horseypie 01-06-2009 08:14 PM

just stick em together with zip ties and race tape

Meatplow 01-06-2009 08:30 PM

i received my secret santa from vasily

big80smullet 01-06-2009 08:46 PM

that must have taken ages to come from kamchatka

RunAmokRampant 01-06-2009 08:55 PM

[url]http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=WNC7IDedU4c&feature=related[/url]

best australian comedian imo

Aaron 01-06-2009 09:02 PM

[quote=Horseman][FONT=Verdana]i dunno it depends how thick the roof is, but a fair weld should be strong enough. run a beam down the inside underneath the seam will be fairly strong as well.[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana]its gunna be a fair bit of labour oxycutting and welding it together...theres some dollars in that unless you have a heaps nice boilermaker mate or something.[/FONT][/quote]

[FONT=Verdana]That’s why I thought of external support. Finding a 40’ beam would be hard, especially when I want to keep to keep costs lower. I’m not planning on trusting the weld. I know a few people who are practical, but this is a long term project so I’m almost tempted to do a night-course or something to find out how to do stuff myself. I don’t have a deadline, it’s just something I really want to do in some form [build the studio]. Key thing is acquiring as much as I can at low-cost/free/trade-for-case-of-beer situations.[/FONT]


[quote=Aes820][FONT=Verdana]I'd recommend brick stilt footings with I-beam joists. That'll be the support structure, the containers will merely sit on it.[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana]Don't rely on that middle weld joint to hold any structural integrity, because it wont.[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana]I think anything you do will need council approval, because it sounds like a pretty serious structure. Plus, if you want to record in something, you'd want to avoid anything with parallel walls, as they can introduce nasty reverberations - but this can easily be avoided with a few angled plywood panels underneath any insulation. I've got a spare shipping container in my backyard that you can have if you want, but it's currently full of dead refugees - so you'll need to give us a hand to get rid of them if you want it.[/FONT][/quote]

[FONT=Verdana]I was thinking something like that for a base [footings with I-beam joists]. I just want to make sure I don’t get water in really, so I dunno. I thought of doing extra large footings, then filling the remaining space with compacted fill so it’s got no space under it, but not a costly slab. [/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana]I’ll treat the rooms inside once it’s done to ensure that there’s no parallel walls; it’ll have internal timber walls that I’ll install, and foam over them in parts as well. Like you said, they’ll be angled on some sides. [/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana]I’d take it off your hands, but I need to buy a house and block first, haha.[/FONT]

[quote=Meatplow][FONT=Verdana] this turns me on for some reason[/FONT][/quote]
[FONT=Verdana]That’s so hot, haz. [/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana]I am actually considering living in a shipping container in my mum’s yard while I pay off my mortgage. I’ll make you a tinfoil hat if you visit.[/FONT]

[quote=Gaslight][FONT=Verdana] Woodchipper.[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana]Also, won't you need some sort of crane to lift the shipping containers 4' off the ground?[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana]Also if I could suggest something, do double doors for it. Not like, two side by side, but door then another door. You get that in rehearsal studios and stuff. Top shelf recording studios often have just one insanely thick door. Doors are a key weakness in soundproofing.[/FONT][/quote]

[FONT=Verdana]I guess I will need a crane. I know a crane operator luckily who said he can help. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]The plan for entry is to keep the entry on one side [which is 4’x8’2”] but put a traditional door into the otherside for ease of access, which goes directly into the smaller room. To soundproof the big door I'm going to put a false wall inside, and have the door be metal on one side, then basically 12"-deep rubber on the other that fills the same space as the false wall.[/FONT]


[quote=Horseman][FONT=Verdana]just stick em together with zip ties and race tape.[/FONT][/quote]

Blu-tac and good intensions.

big80smullet 01-06-2009 10:08 PM

i made a huuuge steak sandwich

Aaron 01-06-2009 10:28 PM

epic post by me before. I want a steak.

big80smullet 01-06-2009 10:35 PM

[QUOTE=Aaron;17008856]

Blu-tac and good intensions.[/QUOTE]

nah bro you have to pave the driveway in good intentions

gaslight 01-06-2009 10:55 PM

If you need to pave a driveway just strike a deal with Chris and use the ground up bones from his shipping container.

Aaron 01-06-2009 10:56 PM

:lol:

RunAmokRampant 01-06-2009 11:22 PM

[url]http://au.movies.ign.com/dor/objects/863597/street-fighter-the-legend-of-chun-li/videos/street_fighter_cl_trlr_010609.html[/url]

oh dear lol

gaslight 01-06-2009 11:44 PM

Just when I thought Dragonball was the worst movie idea in history.

big80smullet 01-07-2009 05:25 AM

dragon ball is sweet. just not with chow yun fat and a white lead

gaslight 01-07-2009 05:43 AM

F[size=2]uck[/size] it.

I_WEAR_RED_PANTS 01-07-2009 05:51 AM

times like these
to be with you
tiny dancer
everlong
my hero
best of you
tuesdays gone
knockin on heavens door
patience
nothing else matters
wish you were here
blister in the sun
about a girl
in bloom
come as you are
big me
day tripper
turn the page
creep
high and dry
wonderwall
learn to fly
monkey wrench
hurt
ruby soho
us forces
needle and damage done
heart of gold
killing in the name
paper jean girl
sex on fire
use somebody
these days
my generation
classico
tribute
wonderboy.

that's our setlist for friday night + a couple others if we don't reach our time limit

it's in no order.

what does everyone rate it?

i got the new dragonball z game for wii to keep this on topic

gaslight 01-07-2009 05:58 AM

Good set of rock covers. I've never been in a proper cover band.

I_WEAR_RED_PANTS 01-07-2009 06:04 AM

neither have we, this is an acoustic set because our drummer is in nz. i went to the pub pissed out and they asked if we could play for 3 hours + breaks and i said yeah ok

gaslight 01-07-2009 06:11 AM

Nice, get into it, I'd love to have some covers gigs to do. Easy money.


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