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Brewer14 12-26-2005 08:36 PM

[QUOTE=Treefingers]The most overated band EVER[/QUOTE]

Shut up.

I got [I]Back in Black[/I] for Christmas since I lost my old copy :)

MrSigma 12-26-2005 08:37 PM

AC/DC has some pretty good music.

Drunken Viking 12-26-2005 09:41 PM

I finally have all of AC/DC's studio albums, but I need Bonfire to complete my collection! :)

Loser Boy Jay 12-26-2005 10:30 PM

[QUOTE=rnaiyc]just let me say in advance that a lot of people will probably disagree with me on this but im kind of hypocritical on this so here i go....

AC/DC is a good band in the sense that they play catchy tunes that you can hear for the first time and sing along to or tap your foot to. but.... Thats because there songs a simple but good. AC/DC isnt all that great of musicians they've won people over simplicity and catchyness[/QUOTE]

I do partly agree with you. As a band AC/DC aren't the most talented group of musicians, and a lot of their publicity came from the "bad boy" highway to hell image that they have. But as a guitarist I look up to their catchy riffs, and especially Angus Young's lead work. Still, they have a very original sound, which sets them apart. I mean if you hear an AC/DC song come on the radio that you've never heard before, you know it's them first thing.

Drunken Viking 12-26-2005 10:37 PM

In all honesty, I think they got most of thier fans from movies where their name is mentioned as B.A.'s., like in School Of Rock, and countless other movies. Well mostly School Of Rock but hey that was a good movie. :lol:

LightningLegs20 12-26-2005 11:13 PM

i dont know why every bashes AC/DC all the damn time. they are one of the most influencial bands of their time. i know that they're all old and ****, but they're still rocking like the stones.

i bet you any1 of you get your favorite guitar players like, EVH, malmsteen, petruchi and vai, and compare their stage performances to Angus, angus would ****ing blow them outta the water. no one can match angus

Drunken Viking 12-27-2005 12:17 AM

While he does run around like a manic I dought that Steve Vai, John Petruchi, Eddie Van Halen, or Yngvie Malmsteen give a flying ****. They aren't about running around and they have much more complicated **** to do, if you watch Angus when he does his solos he is usually not running around, and if you consider EVH's songs, they all have amazing guitar lines and I'm sure he doesn't want to butcher them in front of thousands of people.

LightningLegs20 12-27-2005 01:23 AM

but what i was trying to say is... could they run around like angus? and make it look good?

Drunken Viking 12-27-2005 01:27 AM

Any schmuck can run around like a maniac and "make it look good", but Angus is the only one who does.

classicrockman 12-27-2005 12:02 PM

[QUOTE=The Liberty Bell]While he does run around like a manic I dought that Steve Vai, John Petruchi, Eddie Van Halen, or Yngvie Malmsteen give a flying ****. They aren't about running around and they have much more complicated **** to do, if you watch Angus when he does his solos he is usually not running around, and if you consider EVH's songs, they all have amazing guitar lines and I'm sure he doesn't want to butcher them in front of thousands of people.[/QUOTE]
Actually Yngwie said one of his favorite songs of all time is "Hells Bells..."

Yngwie does plenty of crap on stage...like swing his guitar around his neck, throw picks, and occasionally breaks his guitar. To the guy who said Angus is better than these guys 'cause he moves around, well that's just not true.

Guitardo 12-27-2005 01:13 PM

AC?DC is a great band all because of Angus
especially his guitar riffs and his very high pitched voice:thumb:

Music Man 12-27-2005 07:25 PM

[QUOTE=classicrockman]This thread has really failed. There are no AC/DC fans. [/QUOTE]

Just because a few people don't appreciate a great classic hard rock band like AC/DC, isn't any reason to get all gloomy.

I could care less if they aren't the best musicians in the world from a technical standpoint.

None of the Beatles were the technically best instrumentalists in the world either. Paul was an excellent bassist, but definitely not the best ever, or even of his time. The rest of the Beatles were just average on their instruments.

I'll take average musicians who can create great music, over technically accomplished ones who can't create squat.

AC/DC is in the top five rock groups of all time in album sales. Malmsteen and Vai haven't sold jack compared to them.

Drunken Viking 12-27-2005 07:32 PM

[QUOTE=LightningLegs20]wow... you're a fag douche bag nigga[/QUOTE]
Oh no a racist, homophobic nine year old called me names. :eek:

classicrockman 12-27-2005 08:28 PM

[QUOTE=The Liberty Bell]Oh no a racist, homophobic nine year old called me names. :eek:[/QUOTE]
:eek: Gasp! :eek:

Element of LED 435 12-28-2005 06:33 PM

[QUOTE=Guitardo]AC?DC is a great band all because of Angus
especially his guitar riffs and his very high pitched voice:thumb:[/QUOTE]
he doesnt sing, that's brian johnsons job

and anyway angus is not the greatest guitar player ever but his style and somewhat catchy songs make fans and i guess money

Drunken Viking 12-28-2005 11:30 PM

Nice Job catching the sarcasm.

RandyfromPennywise 12-30-2005 11:07 AM

Being Australian, I have been aware of AC/DC since I was knee-high to a grasshopper. My uncle - who, unfortunately, lives in Melbourne (I live in Adelaide) - is very into AC/DC and was playing me AC/DC, amongst others, for many years. However, I have only gained a real appreciation for them recently. I can now say that they are easily one of my favourite bands. They are absolutely fantastic. I'm a Scottish-Australian like Bon & the Youngs too, but that really has nothing to do with anything.

My favourite three songs of theirs are It's A Long Way To The Top (If You Wan't To Rock 'N' Roll), T.N.T., and Riff Raff.

You can't beat the attitude of T.N.T..

Such a good honest Ocker, Aussie band. It's a pity it's taken me 20 years to bring AC/DC into my life. Bon Scott was unbeatable as a front-man in my opinion. I am not such a fan of Brian, but the band still has had some great songs with him. AC⁄DC.

thunderzstruck 12-30-2005 11:39 AM

[QUOTE=LightningLegs20]i dont know why every bashes AC/DC all the damn time. they are one of the most influencial bands of their time. i know that they're all old and ****, but they're still rocking like the stones.

i bet you any1 of you get your favorite guitar players like, EVH, malmsteen, petruchi and vai, and compare their stage performances to Angus, angus would ****ing blow them outta the water. no one can match angus[/QUOTE]

You're an idiot. I know Angus has stage presense but don't judge them if you havn't seen them

I was to a Vai concert last April and he has so much stage presense. He doesn't have to just run around to get attention and with all the complicated lines he has to play is mindblowing. Vai is such a good performer

thunderzstruck 12-30-2005 11:40 AM

[QUOTE=Music Man]AC/DC is in the top five rock groups of all time in album sales. Malmsteen and Vai haven't sold jack compared to them.[/QUOTE]

That has nothing to do with song writing ability.

classicrockman 12-30-2005 03:43 PM

[QUOTE=thunderzstruck]You're an idiot. I know Angus has stage presense but don't judge them if you havn't seen them

I was to a Vai concert last April and he has so much stage presense. He doesn't have to just run around to get attention and with all the complicated lines he has to play is mindblowing. Vai is such a good performer[/QUOTE]
Saw Satch, Vai, and Malmsteen on the G3 tour two years ago. :cool:

And they all have great stage presence. Like you said man, they're good performers.

Apocalyptic Raids 12-30-2005 04:31 PM

Hey Pennywise, about your question in the other thread.

Often the Australian versions of some AC/DC albums have slightly different track listings than the international versions.

Drunken Viking 12-30-2005 04:37 PM

[QUOTE=thunderzstruck]That has nothing to do with song writing ability.[/QUOTE]
More like those guys haven't sold anything compared to Back In Black. :lol:

thunderzstruck 12-30-2005 05:45 PM

[QUOTE=classicrockman]Saw Satch, Vai, and Malmsteen on the G3 tour two years ago. :cool:

And they all have great stage presence. Like you said man, they're good performers.[/QUOTE]

Fricken lucky man. I didn't even know who they were two years ago though :(

ps I did meet Vai's whole band and got pictures/autographs with all of them :)

Look at this awesome pic.. [yes, thats me]
[IMG]http://tinypic.com/jgjqj9.jpg[/IMG] :cool:

thunderzstruck 12-30-2005 05:53 PM

[QUOTE=Drunken Viking]More like those guys haven't sold anything compared to Back In Black. :lol:[/QUOTE]

What does that have to do with [i]anything[/i]?!

You're thinking popularity = talent. The best artists are the people under the mainsteam because they are too busy perfecting their craft instead of trying to get exposure. Also ac/dc is more popular because they can make 4 minutes (pop) hits.
The people who actually try to be original and try to break out of cliches never get the most attention since that's not what the average music listener seems to want.

Now quit talking and try some better comebacks

Drunken Viking 12-30-2005 05:56 PM

[QUOTE=thunderzstruck]What does that have to do with [i]anything[/i]?!

You're thinking popularity = talent. The best artists are the people under the mainsteam because they are too busy perfecting their craft instead of trying to get exposure.

It's fine you like ac/dc (I used to too) but you need to figure out what are some good comebacks and that is NOT it.[/QUOTE]
Chill chill, I was gonna reply to his original post, but I couldn't find it anyway. Besides I know that AC/DC isn't as talented as the people your thinking about. The main point of my post was to say that "Back In Black" sold a lot more then Vai, Mailmsteen's or anyone else that was mentioned, but I did not say in any way that they were more talented.

thunderzstruck 12-30-2005 05:58 PM

[QUOTE=Drunken Viking]Chill chill, I was gonna reply to his original post, but I couldn't find it anyway. Besides I know that AC/DC isn't as talented as the people your thinking about. [B]The main point of my post was to say that "Back In Black" sold a lot more then Vai, Mailmsteen's or anyone else that was mentioned, but I did not say in any way that they were more talented.[/B][/QUOTE]

That still doesn't have anything to do with anything. This painting sold more than that.. [I]so?[/I]

Whatever [also I'm kinda in an pissy mood right now] :P

Music Man 12-31-2005 01:43 AM

[QUOTE=thunderzstruck]That has nothing to do with song writing ability.[/QUOTE]

It most certainly does.

When AC/DC was in their prime, they had the ability to write music that appealed to MILLIONS, thus they have sold over 60 MILLION albums in the USA alone. So AC/DC had a TALENT for producing enormously popular hard rock music.

I already explained that being a technically good instrumentalist doesn't make one a good songwriter.

None of the Beatles were as technically good on a guitar as Malmsteen or Vai, but Lennon and McCartney were a million light years above both of them in the songwriting ability department.

Drunken Viking 12-31-2005 01:53 AM

No because they have sold more has nothing to do with songwriting ability. If AC/DC were such excellent songwriters then howcome every song consists of an intro, first verse, chorus, second verse, chorus, solo, possibly a bridge, then chorus once or twice for the outro, and the lyrics always about sex or an inuenddo for sex. Just because they are popular doesn't make them amazing songwriters. And because they have sold 60 million albums in the USA doesn't make them amazingly talented, that just means they know how to please people. And what do the Beatles have to do with anything?

Music Man 12-31-2005 02:10 AM

[QUOTE=Drunken Viking]No because they have sold more has nothing to do with songwriting ability. If AC/DC were such excellent songwriters then howcome every song consists of an intro, first verse, chorus, second verse, chorus, solo, possibly a bridge, then chorus once or twice for the outro, and the lyrics always about sex or an inuenddo for sex. Just because they are popular doesn't make them amazing songwriters. And because they have sold 60 million albums in the USA doesn't make them amazingly talented, that just means they know how to please people. And what do the Beatles have to do with anything?[/QUOTE]

First of all, the words "amazing songwriters" and "amazingly talented" are YOURS, not mine. I NEVER stated that they were "amazing songwriters", or that they were "amazingly talented".

So please don't put words in my mouth.

What I said was "AC/DC had a TALENT for producing enormously popular hard rock music."

And my statement is easily proven correct, by the hard fact that AC/DC is in the top five on the all-time bestselling rock groups list, with over SIXTY MILLION albums sold in the U.S. alone.

Songs don't have to be complex in order to be enormously popular.

Bon_Scottie 12-31-2005 02:19 AM

[QUOTE=Drunken Viking]No because they have sold more has nothing to do with songwriting ability. If AC/DC were such excellent songwriters then howcome every song consists of an intro, first verse, chorus, second verse, chorus, solo, possibly a bridge, then chorus once or twice for the outro, and the lyrics always about sex or an inuenddo for sex. Just because they are popular doesn't make them amazing songwriters. And because they have sold 60 million albums in the USA doesn't make them amazingly talented, that just means they know how to please people. And what do the Beatles have to do with anything?[/QUOTE]

The Beatles relate to the thread as he mentioned that the Beatles (just like AC/DC) werent superb musicians, but are emensly popular and made awesome tracks that sold big.

Agreed that AC/DC are talented for selling so much. I mean, how many true classic rock bands have sold that many albums? Fair enough the ****e that the music industry produce today might sell that much... wouldnt be suprised if that bloody Crazy Frog sold more, but true, true classic rock bands havent reached heights that AC/DC have.

... and as for stage pressence that was talked about, Angus just takes the cake. He's what makes me think "Jesus, I want to do that". Just found an old video of 'em preforming Rocker live, where Angus solo's, goes out back for some air and a drink, comes out on a blokes shoulders and goes into the crowd... comes back, on Bon Scotts shoulders, off... solo, fall to floor, spin around, get up, and finish.

Orgasm.


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