I am looking for a china. I will use it mostly for riding so I am thinking something around 18" or so but I am not sure. I also like the sound of the Sabian XS china(it's a little bit of a deeper sound) but I want something that has more quality than the XS.

[QUOTE=Dhak]I am looking for a china. I will use it mostly for riding so I am thinking something around 18" or so but I am not sure. I also like the sound of the Sabian XS china(it's a little bit of a deeper sound) but I want something that has more quality than the XS.[/QUOTE]

Sabian XS. 18 inches or so should be like what you want

[QUOTE=Dhak]I am looking for a china. I will use it mostly for riding so I am thinking something around 18" or so but I am not sure. I also like the sound of the Sabian XS china(it's a little bit of a deeper sound) but I want something that has more quality than the XS.[/QUOTE]

you should go for teh cheaper b8 pro china. man that things a beast. Excellent china cymbal. that b8 is perfect for it. IMO its better than the XS...its also cheaper too.

i just noticed something. when people give a described cymbal. they usually only list certain cymbals. no matter what the description, even if it doesnt match it :(

^^ ok that really didn't make any sense at all.

Dhak, check out the pro sonix china, its a real beauty, nice trahy sound, great for riding.

I'm also looking for a china that is not too dark (like the wuhans are) and something that I can ride on (like dhak said). Also, I don't like something that's uber trashy (like the wuhans), but I want something that gives a good "khaaahhh" and doesn't have that much overtones. I'm open any brand cymbal.

^^^^ Go for traditional, I have almost all brilliants and I'm regretting it, so much harder to keep clean, and I look the look of traditional more now too... :(

hey guys, im looking for a ride that has a good bell, and is kind of washy, almost even crashable maybe, but i want that nice pingy bell.

hi, im looking for a ride that is crashable and will sound good for classic psychedelic rock. I want a ride with a similar sound to mitch mitchell's. I would prefer zildjian but I am open to any brand.

excellent choice in drummer, mitchell is perhaps one of my biggest influences

An A ride, probably 20" Medium though I did read somewhere that at one time he used a crash/ride for his ride.

[QUOTE=Dookie56]hey guys, im looking for a ride that has a good bell, and is kind of washy, almost even crashable maybe, but i want that nice pingy bell.[/QUOTE]

AA medium ride
AAX stage ride
A medium
A sweet ride

A ping rides have a good amount of wash and an edge that really opens up, but still have some nice articulation and one hell of a bell.

[QUOTE=THISisAARON]hi, im looking for a ride that is crashable and will sound good for classic psychedelic rock. I want a ride with a similar sound to mitch mitchell's. I would prefer zildjian but I am open to any brand.[/QUOTE]
I dont know the drumemr you are talking about, but the 21" A sweet ride is a good crash/ride type of cymbal along with the 20" AAX stage ride... erm kinda the same thing Tim said for someone else

[QUOTE=Chester]I dont know the drumemr you are talking about, but the 21" A sweet ride is a good crash/ride type of cymbal along with the 20" AAX stage ride... erm kinda the same thing Tim said for someone else[/QUOTE]

He played with for Mr J Hendrix.

I'm thinking about a 17" AA Metal-X crash to replace my cracked B8. I'm thinking about getting this one cause I play metal and they are loud and seem durable. I played a 16" at the GC and thought a 17" would be better for me. I have a 15" AAXplosion already so I think this one would compliment it well. Any other suggestions?

[QUOTE=Chester]I dont know the drumemr you are talking about, but the 21" A sweet ride is a good crash/ride type of cymbal along with the 20" AAX stage ride... erm kinda the same thing Tim said for someone else[/QUOTE]

you don't know Mitch MItchell? Jesus, one of the greatest players ever. Pretty much founded the fusion drumming style.

[QUOTE=VTDS_xx]I'm thinking about a 17" AA Metal-X crash to replace my cracked B8. I'm thinking about getting this one cause I play metal and they are loud and seem durable. I played a 16" at the GC and thought a 17" would be better for me. I have a 15" AAXplosion already so I think this one would compliment it well. Any other suggestions?[/QUOTE]

Yeah I got a suggestion: stay away from AA Metal-X. They sound like crap.

Here are some better crashes that might be good with your AAXplosion:[LIST][*]AA Medium[*]AA Medium-Thin[*]AAX Stage Crashes[/LIST]
If you just really have to have loud crashes, some rides sound better crashed than AA Metal-X crashes. A few are:[LIST][*]AAX Stage Ride[*]A Sweet Ride[/LIST]
All this is my opinion and you have to be sure to try these out in person before you buy anything. Bring your cymbals to the store so you can compare them side by side.

if youre playing Metal then dont get AA-metal X. they are too heavy to move at high speeds. Especially the larger sizes. Get a large size. Medium thin crash. That would be perfect for you. Id recommend getting a bigger AAX plosion. LIke an 18. those are dang loud and are medium thin in weight. They sound great too in other music not jsut metal and loud settings. Good all around crash. If not I would Def. recommend an 18inch AAX stage crash.

hey i need a ride with a nice strong ping yet still high pitched

[QUOTE=Twistoff]hey i need a ride with a nice strong ping yet still high pitched[/QUOTE]

A custom Ping Ride?

Alright, thanks guys. I'm looking at the A Custom Medium Crashes right now. They're sounding good to me. I'm also going to be getting a new ride and hats soon. I'm thinkin Z Custom Dyno Beats and an A Custom Ping Ride. 22".

yesterday i tried out the 20" 2002 Ride, basiclly too much wash for me, awesome bell, nice proyection, sexy looks, but the paiste retailer form my country only has the 20", for you who have tried the 22" adn 24", are they less washier? cause the audio clip from paiste's page was pretty acurrate just some differeces because of the sticks i use, and the 24" seem less washier thatn the 20"

Ok, forget Zildjian.
AA Medium Crash is 127$ on massmusic.
I'm gonna go with dat one.

[QUOTE=chewaz]yesterday i tried out the 20" 2002 Ride, basiclly too much wash for me, awesome bell, nice proyection, sexy looks, but the paiste retailer form my country only has the 20", for you who have tried the 22" adn 24", are they less washier? cause the audio clip from paiste's page was pretty acurrate just some differeces because of the sticks i use, and the 24" seem less washier thatn the 20"[/QUOTE]

***cough***

[QUOTE=VTDS_xx]Ok, forget Zildjian.
AA Medium Crash is 127$ on massmusic.
I'm gonna go with dat one.[/QUOTE]

i have a 17" AA medium crash and its awsome. You won't be let down.

hey guys i amde a thread about this and it proably could have gone in here and no one has really posted in it so....

hey guys, i was just at my local music shop and saw some used AAX X-celorators for 140 USD!! I have wanted a pair of these and to see them this cheap is really exciting. I checked them out and i didn't see anything wrong with them, just a few fingerprints and smudges. This is probably a really n00b question but are there supposed to be indents on the edges of the bottom hat? Well i know you guys are going to tell me to try them and buy them if i like them but i wanted to know your guys opinion on them. What type of music are they usually used for? Are they very versatile? Thanks

I have a couple requests:

Heavy ride with a short warm ping and a solid bell sound(elbow of stick)

An 18" crash that will go well with a 16" Sabian Vault crash, I was thinking A custom or AA Medium crash(massmusic has them cheap as hell).

tips? suggestions? etc..

[QUOTE=Cocaberry]Yeah I got a suggestion: stay away from AA Metal-X. They sound like crap.

Here are some better crashes that might be good with your AAXplosion:[LIST][*]AA Medium[*]AA Medium-Thin[*]AAX Stage Crashes[/LIST]
If you just really have to have loud crashes, some rides sound better crashed than AA Metal-X crashes. A few are:[LIST][*]AAX Stage Ride[*]A Sweet Ride[/LIST]
All this is my opinion and you have to be sure to try these out in person before you buy anything. Bring your cymbals to the store so you can compare them side by side.[/QUOTE]
Which do you think would be better? AA Metal-X or AAX Metal?

[QUOTE=thenewguy515]Which do you think would be better? AA Metal-X or AAX Metal?[/QUOTE]

Neither. Both of those lines are just garbage. It's best to stay away from the following lines:[LIST][*]AA Metal-X[*]AAX Metal[*]Z Customs[*]Paiste Rude[/LIST]

[QUOTE=Cocaberry]Neither. Both of those lines are just garbage. It's best to stay away from the following lines:[LIST][*]AA Metal-X[*]AAX Metal[*]Z Customs[*]Paiste Rude[/LIST][/QUOTE]
Well can you point me in the right direction for an 18" crash to go with my 16" Vault? Rude rides are ok btw :p

[QUOTE=thenewguy515]Well can you point me in the right direction for an 18" crash to go with my 16" Vault? Rude rides are ok btw :p[/QUOTE]

an 18inch AAX stage crash. something medium thin in a big size.

[QUOTE=thenewguy515]
Heavy ride with a short warm ping and a solid bell sound(elbow of stick)
[/QUOTE]

Try either the AA Heavy Ride or AA Rock Ride. Both are heavy weight. Only difference is the bell on the Rock ride is larger and the rock ride would be louder.

[QUOTE=thenewguy515]
An 18" crash that will go well with a 16" Sabian Vault crash, I was thinking A custom or AA Medium crash(massmusic has them cheap as hell).
[/QUOTE]

I don't really remember exactly what a Vault crash sounds like but I'm assuming its fairly bright. According to the catalog, it is thin weight so I suggest you try the following crashes:[LIST][*]AA Thin (Thin Weight)[*]AA Medium-Thin (Medium-Thin Weight)[*]AAX Stage Crash (Medium-Thin Weight)[*]AAX Studio Crash (Thin Weight)[/LIST]
Keep in mind the Medium-thins are going to be louder than the thin weights. If you don't want one crash to overpower the other you should just stay with thins.

[QUOTE=VTDS_xx]Alright, thanks guys. I'm looking at the A Custom Medium Crashes right now. They're sounding good to me. I'm also going to be getting a new ride and hats soon. I'm thinkin Z Custom Dyno Beats and an A Custom Ping Ride. 22".[/QUOTE]


I wouldn't go with the dyno's.. man they are too friggin loud.. and they sound like crap.. If you like them being loud, maybe improve the sound by buying a Z/K combo... and just remember: a-custom medium crashes are not the best musical choice if you play in various styles of music.. It suits rock and metal very good though ;)!

[QUOTE=Cocaberry]Try either the AA Heavy Ride or AA Rock Ride. Both are heavy weight. Only difference is the bell on the Rock ride is larger and the rock ride would be louder.



I don't really remember exactly what a Vault crash sounds like but I'm assuming its fairly bright. According to the catalog, it is thin weight so I suggest you try the following crashes:[LIST][*]AA Thin (Thin Weight)[*]AA Medium-Thin (Medium-Thin Weight)[*]AAX Stage Crash (Medium-Thin Weight)[*]AAX Studio Crash (Thin Weight)[/LIST]
Keep in mind the Medium-thins are going to be louder than the thin weights. If you don't want one crash to overpower the other you should just stay with thins.[/QUOTE]
would an AA medium crash be pushing it too far?

[QUOTE=thenewguy515]would an AA medium crash be pushing it too far?[/QUOTE]

Depends. If you are playing jazz most of the time then yes. AA Mediums wouldn't be as versatile as the other cymbals I listed.

I have 2 AA Medium Crashes and they are good for what I use them for but I just play mostly rock. I have a ride that I crash-ride all the time so I need crashes that cut through that without any trouble. IMO AA Mediums don't sound as good as AA Medium-thins or thins.

do you guys think i should get a) 8'' and 10'' Wuhan Trad Splashes, b) a 12'' Wuhan Splash and 12'' China or c) a 16'' Prosonix China ?

help me out

[QUOTE=straycat101]do you guys think i should get a) 8'' and 10'' Wuhan Trad Splashes, b) a 12'' Wuhan Splash and 12'' China or c) a 16'' Prosonix China ?

help me out[/QUOTE]

Depends on what you have now. Post your cymbal list.

[QUOTE=Cocaberry]Depends on what you have now. Post your cymbal list.[/QUOTE]

Right now i have a 17'' A Custom Fast Crash, a 20'' AA Medium ride, and Paiste 802 hats/second crash. I am gonna replace the 802 crash in a month when my b-day comes around.

From your list, I'd go with the ProSonix china. Wuhans tend to be a bit dark since they are hand hammered.

I've never heard the 802 hats but since the AA ride and the fast crash are fairly bright, IMO the Prosonix would fit in better than those Wuhans.

22" Sig. Dry ride or 24" 2002 ride? wich is dryer or has less wash?=