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Chu 01-17-2006 10:03 PM

I have a mate who's totally obsessed with Chuck, anything with Chuck's name on it, and he'll buy it :p

BLS_Infernus 01-17-2006 10:06 PM

<---Hetfield fanboy

I think I'm going to take an aim at down picking Master of Puppets after I learn Spanish Castle Magic (Hendrix)

Miek 01-17-2006 10:09 PM

[QUOTE=BLS_Infernus]<---Hetfield fanboy

I think I'm going to take an aim at down picking Master of Puppets after I learn Spanish Castle Magic (Hendrix)[/QUOTE]
i like hetfield more tham hammett

BassMasterMike88 01-17-2006 11:06 PM

[QUOTE=funkymike]i like hetfield more tham hammett[/QUOTE]

I like Hammett more to be honest, even though they way they weave the duel guitar parts I think would make them equals.

Britton 01-17-2006 11:43 PM

[QUOTE=BLS_Infernus]<---Hetfield fanboy

I think I'm going to take an aim at down picking Master of Puppets after I learn Spanish Castle Magic (Hendrix)[/QUOTE]

God that is a fun song to play. But my favorite is still the wind cries mary. that or burning of the midnight lamp...but I cant get it to sound right.

I like hetfield's personality more then I like Kirks....but that's just me

ThrashMaster27 01-17-2006 11:53 PM

Yeah, how many times did Kirk speak during Some Kind of Monster?

Like, twice?

PepsiMetal 01-17-2006 11:55 PM

[QUOTE=BLS_Infernus]I've seen that video of JP playing MoP and it looks like he is alt. picking to me...even my guitar forum buddy who are JP whores said he was alt. picking[/QUOTE]

I think petrucci down picked MoP. Not sure.

Although DT played mop slower than metallica live. I had Rock in Rio 04 and their DT mop, and metallica was definetely faster. Now I dont know if metallica play faster than their album, or if DT played slower than their album. I dunno.

W.M.A 01-18-2006 05:08 AM

has ne1 else noticed that the opening riff in call of ktulu is very, very similar to the one from Pink Floyds Hey You and Is there Anybody Out There, from the Wall.

ThrashMaster27 01-18-2006 05:42 AM

Also sounds familiar to Sepultura's Beneath The Remains intro.

For the first few bars at least.

Jim 01-18-2006 05:44 AM

no. but i think "is anybody out there" has a [i]very[/i] similiar riff to "fade to black". you know, the very first bit of it before the solo. in fact, it sounds zactly the same.

mfb 01-18-2006 07:36 AM

lars ulrich wears weird socks....

Jev 01-18-2006 10:07 AM

[QUOTE=PepsiMetal]I think petrucci down picked MoP. Not sure.

Although DT played mop slower than metallica live. I had Rock in Rio 04 and their DT mop, and metallica was definetely faster. Now I dont know if metallica play faster than their album, or if DT played slower than their album. I dunno.[/QUOTE]
Yes he did. I noticed it was slightly slower also. I also noticed that John was either struggling with the consistant downpicking. Either that or he was pulling some weird faces.

And how is Disposable Heroes possible to downpick?

Father_Jack 01-18-2006 01:11 PM

[QUOTE=Happy]
And how is Disposable Heroes possible to downpick?[/QUOTE]

123

There are some quick triplet/triplet-feel notes in their that would be inpossible to all downpick. :confused:

PepsiMetal 01-18-2006 01:27 PM

[QUOTE=bahamut_ali]no. but i think "is anybody out there" has a [i]very[/i] similiar riff to "fade to black". you know, the very first bit of it before the solo. in fact, it sounds zactly the same.[/QUOTE]

Fade to black opening riff sounds somewhat like Goodbye blue skies. It's not the same though, and FTB is better by a mile.

Listening to Fade to black by sonata arctica, anyone noticed how their distorted parts are alot softer than metallicas. It doesn't sound much distorted cause it's not as heavy.

Father_Jack 01-18-2006 01:28 PM

Fade to Black verse also sounds alot like children of the damned.

Joe 01-18-2006 02:12 PM

[QUOTE=PepsiMetal]Fade to black opening riff sounds somewhat like Goodbye blue skies. It's not the same though, and FTB is better by a mile.

Listening to Fade to black by sonata arctica, anyone noticed how their distorted parts are alot softer than metallicas. It doesn't sound much distorted cause it's not as heavy.[/QUOTE]

Maybe because they're clean?

[QUOTE]has ne1 else noticed that the opening riff in call of ktulu is very, very similar to the one from Pink Floyds Hey You and Is there Anybody Out There, from the Wall.[/QUOTE]

Be more specific. I'm listening to Is There Anybody Out There now and I don't hear what you're talking about.

Ah yes, I hear what you mean. I don't see a connection however. Going up and down by only a half step is too common to really say that they are copies. And yes, the beginning of it has a handful of the same notes but the whole riff? Na.

BLS_Infernus 01-18-2006 02:24 PM

see what I mean...John Petriucci (if he was downing picking which I think he wasn't) can hardly do it because alt. picking is that much easier. down pickers > alt. pickers. If Hetfield went to alt. picking or if Kirk did that I'm telling they would be a whole lot better and faster.

I really don't see the connection of Metallica to those Pink Floyd riffs either...a few notes are similar but the over all thing isn't close

Joe 01-18-2006 02:30 PM

[QUOTE=BLS_Infernus]see what I mean...John Petriucci (if he was downing picking which I think he wasn't) can hardly do it because alt. picking is that much easier. down pickers > alt. pickers. If Hetfield went to alt. picking or if Kirk did that I'm telling they would be a whole lot better and faster.

I really don't see the connection of Metallica to those Pink Floyd riffs either...a few notes are similar but the over all thing isn't close[/QUOTE]

I disagree with this whole down picking > alt. picking. Sure it means you have more talent, but does it sound good? I'll down pick something if that's how it was meant to be played, but if something sounds better alt. picked I'll play it that way. Yes, if Hetfield did more alt. picking he would be a lot faster I think if he wanted to be.

NP: Battery

BLS_Infernus 01-18-2006 02:34 PM

yes there is a 'how it sounds' factor but all these alt. picker shred guitarist get to much credit for their speed. I could easily see Hetfield playing as fast or faster.

does anyone have a good tab for MoP? Most of the tab sites are/have been closed down due to copyright

Stormrider 01-18-2006 02:39 PM

Try Metaltabs.com

I got some other good powertabs from there after powertab.net closed down.

Its a popular site though, you probably already know of it.

Sph 01-18-2006 02:39 PM

[URL="http://www.911tabs.com/"]911tabs[/URL] are the place I go.

I was just listening to Hey You and I can't see any similarity to Call Of The Ktulu.

Joe 01-18-2006 02:46 PM

I've done ultimate-guitar.com but I like the book so much better. It's worth getting the book, to be honest. I really don't know why it happened but I tried learning Puppets for nearly 3 monthes and then it took me about 2 days to learn the entire song once I got the book. Weird stuff.

Stormrider 01-18-2006 02:48 PM

[QUOTE=Joe]I've done ultimate-guitar.com but I like the book so much better. It's worth getting the book, to be honest. I really don't know why it happened but I tried learning Puppets for nearly 3 monthes and then it took me about 2 days to learn the entire song once I got the book. Weird stuff.[/QUOTE]

Books sometimes have bad tabs and are way to expensive..I own MoP one and KEA one though...

Ive gotten a lot of use from them though..

Joe 01-18-2006 02:53 PM

[QUOTE=Stormrider331]Books sometimes have bad tabs and are way to expensive..I own MoP one and KEA one though...[/QUOTE]

Well that's why you get the centimeter thick one and not the three inch thick one. I've had good luck with the Metallica and Eric Clapton books. The[I] Ride the Lightning [/I]and [I]Master of Puppets[/I] ones are really good.

Stormrider 01-18-2006 02:56 PM

[QUOTE=Joe]Well that's why you get the centimeter thick one and not the three inch thick one. I've had good luck with the Metallica and Eric Clapton books. The[I] Ride the Lightning [/I]and [I]Master of Puppets[/I] ones are really good.[/QUOTE]

But i dont buy the 3 inch ones...Maybe their just overpriced here.

The MoP intro is wrong. I watch it on Cunning Stunts and thats not where they play it.

Sorry, if i sounded offensive in my other post, didnt mean too..

NP - Opeth - Black Rose Immortal

Joe 01-18-2006 02:58 PM

Don't worry you didn't. It's not that the tab is [I]wrong[/I], it sounds the same, but it's not how they play it. I've watched many One videos and the tabs are never like that.

[url]http://s52.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=02UYT4L4CU2HW0R3WEWQSVM7UK[/url]

Would you guys mind listening? No one has listened in the competition thread and I need some feedback. Don't worry about the chorus, I know it needs work. Thanks guys :thumb:

Stormrider 01-18-2006 03:00 PM

[QUOTE=Joe]Don't worry you didn't. It's not that the tab is [I]wrong[/I], it sounds the same, but it's not how they play it. I've watched many One videos and the tabs are never like that. [/QUOTE]

Yeah that whats i meant, my mistake.

Sph 01-18-2006 03:19 PM

[QUOTE=Joe]Don't worry you didn't. It's not that the tab is [I]wrong[/I], it sounds the same, but it's not how they play it. I've watched many One videos and the tabs are never like that.

[url]http://s52.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=02UYT4L4CU2HW0R3WEWQSVM7UK[/url]

Would you guys mind listening? No one has listened in the competition thread and I need some feedback. Don't worry about the chorus, I know it needs work. Thanks guys :thumb:[/QUOTE]
Very nice.:thumb: What setup are you using?

BLS_Infernus 01-18-2006 03:19 PM

umm I remember getting something from kurrptsenate yesterday going with Metallica books...I'll have to look at that after I get home from work today. MoP could be on it

Josh 01-18-2006 03:31 PM

[QUOTE=Father_Jack]Fade to Black verse also sounds alot like children of the damned.[/QUOTE]
i reckon that The Unforgiven's intro is very like the intro the COTD, with the acoustic intro and solo. meh, who cares, they're both great tracks.

any more news on the new 'Tallica album? i'm revising, so i can't really search around for info.

Joe 01-18-2006 03:42 PM

[QUOTE=KingJay]Very nice.:thumb: What setup are you using?[/QUOTE]

Epiphone SG --> Line 6 Spider 212 --> Shure SM57 --> Behringer Mixer --> HP Media Center comp with/ Steinburg Cubase.

It needs a little work here and there, but thanks :thumb:

[QUOTE]any more news on the new 'Tallica album? i'm revising, so i can't really search around for info.[/QUOTE]

Just that it's being worked on. I haven't heard any new information about it. All I know is that they're taking a week off to play in South Africa.

Father_Jack 01-18-2006 03:54 PM

[QUOTE=Joe]
[url]http://s52.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=02UYT4L4CU2HW0R3WEWQSVM7UK[/url]

Would you guys mind listening? No one has listened in the competition thread and I need some feedback. Don't worry about the chorus, I know it needs work. Thanks guys :thumb:[/QUOTE]


Cool. Few Constructive Critisism (sp?) points;[LIST][*]Timing needs to be work on the first time the verse in introduced[*]You need a smoother transition between Chorus -> Verse, maybe using more tracks so the distortion fades away rather than cutting off[*]The harmony in the chorus is pretty sexy but save it from the 2nd chorus only.[/LIST]Apart from that it was pretty darn good. And as you said, it needs touching up a little.:thumb:

Aw3someman 01-18-2006 04:20 PM

[QUOTE=Joe]Don't worry you didn't. It's not that the tab is [I]wrong[/I], it sounds the same, but it's not how they play it. I've watched many One videos and the tabs are never like that.

[url]http://s52.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=02UYT4L4CU2HW0R3WEWQSVM7UK[/url]

Would you guys mind listening? No one has listened in the competition thread and I need some feedback. Don't worry about the chorus, I know it needs work. Thanks guys :thumb:[/QUOTE]
Your not putting in vocals?

BLS_Infernus 01-18-2006 05:14 PM

most vocalist are far to find especially for metal...most of them are off doing christian music or something like that. you will find very few singers on MX

that tour in Africa is going to be so gay with Metallica and those fag bands...I don't understand why they can't take Godsmack with them just to beef it up some :lol:

mr black 01-18-2006 05:26 PM

Im a singer...

Britton 01-18-2006 05:48 PM

[QUOTE=Joe]I disagree with this whole down picking > alt. picking. Sure it means you have more talent, but does it sound good? I'll down pick something if that's how it was meant to be played, but if something sounds better alt. picked I'll play it that way. Yes, if Hetfield did more alt. picking he would be a lot faster I think if he wanted to be.

NP: Battery[/QUOTE]

Yea 123

Alt picking is just as much a skill as down picking. any good guitarist will be good at both. If you want to go super fast you alt pick. If you want it to be flippin heavy you down pick.


anyone ever just tried up picking?

And BLS please stop calling bands "Fag bands" just cause you don't care for their style of music.

Godsmack puts on one hell of a show though.

RobbFlynnRules 01-18-2006 05:56 PM

[QUOTE=BLS_Infernus]most vocalist are far to find especially for metal...most of them are off doing christian music or something like that. you will find very few singers on MX

that tour in Africa is going to be so gay with Metallica and those fag bands...I don't understand why they can't take Godsmack with them just to beef it up some :lol:[/QUOTE]

Hey man

It's easy to a good Metal vocalist then a goo metal Drummer theres so many wanna bes and they basically suck butt man my 4 year old nice can drum better then some of the Drummers that my band tried out whats going on with the world when you can't find a descent metal drummer who can keep the pace up man!

Metallica f***in' Rock Dude

BLS_Infernus 01-18-2006 06:08 PM

[QUOTE=Britton]And BLS please stop calling bands "Fag bands" just cause you don't care for their style of music.

Godsmack puts on one hell of a show though.[/QUOTE]

can you help but call Simple Plan fags?

but yeah Godsmack puts on a great show...I kind of like to call them 'little 'tallica'. I saw them when they toured with Metallica and that was one of the greatest shows I've been to...in my top 5 for sure.

Kaiwaz 01-18-2006 06:17 PM

[QUOTE=BLS_Infernus]can you help but call Simple Plan fags?

but yeah Godsmack puts on a great show...I kind of like to call them 'little 'tallica'. I saw them when they toured with Metallica and that was one of the greatest shows I've been to...in my top 5 for sure.[/QUOTE]


Have you ever seen Machine Head live?

Kaiwaz 01-18-2006 06:23 PM

[QUOTE=Happy]And how is Disposable Heroes possible to downpick?[/QUOTE]

Not the entire song, the intro, it's only a few seconds, but it's fast.

Before this:
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0 000 0 000 000 0 000 0 000 000

That's all gallop picking. Most of the song is. Blackened is probably harder to Downpick.


Double post ack! sorry.


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