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gmoneyguy 01-22-2006 03:04 AM

[QUOTE=KingJay]What would you class them as? They may not be prog metal but they're certainly not nu-metal.[/QUOTE]
Oh they are definatly nu-metal. Nu-metal is vast genre. They do nothing that would make them progressive.

SOAD doesn't sound like Slipknot who doesn't sound like the Deftones who doesn't sound like Mudvayne, but they are all nu-metal.

ValeOfShadows 01-22-2006 03:06 AM

Yeh they are definately numetal. Its the closest genre to them.

I'm Charming 01-22-2006 03:12 AM

[QUOTE=guitrguy]Oh they are definatly nu-metal. Nu-metal is vast genre. They do nothing that would make them progressive.

SOAD doesn't sound like Slipknot who doesn't sound like the Deftones who doesn't sound like Mudvayne, but they are all nu-metal.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for setting the record straight. :thumb:

Sph 01-22-2006 03:15 AM

But alot of bands who are classed as nu-metal aren't even metal! Nu-metal is [I]too[/I] vast. How the hell can Slipknot, SOAD, and Linki Park be in the same genre?

I'm Charming 01-22-2006 03:19 AM

[QUOTE=KingJay]But alot of bands who are classed as nu-metal aren't even metal! Nu-metal is [I]too[/I] vast. How the hell can Slipknot, SOAD, and Linki Park be in the same genre?[/QUOTE]

Good point there.

Slipknot could be rap metal or towards that.. Sorta like RATM except way less talented.

Linkin park I guess could be hip hop or cloes to it.

SOAD is just worthless, lol. alt rock sorta in the category of chevelle and breaking benjamin or staind?

ValeOfShadows 01-22-2006 03:26 AM

I dont classify linkin Park as metal simple as that.

Sph 01-22-2006 03:27 AM

[QUOTE=guitrguy]SOAD doesn't sound like Slipknot who doesn't sound like the Deftones who doesn't sound like Mudvayne, but they are all nu-metal.[/QUOTE]
If they aren't similar at all, they can't be in the same genre.
[QUOTE=Dictionary.com]
A category of artistic composition, as in music or literature, [B]marked by a distinctive style, form, or content[/B][/QUOTE]
Nu-metal defeats the purpose of being a genre.
[QUOTE=Man_Made_God]Good point there.

Slipknot could be rap metal or towards that.. Sorta like RATM except way less talented.[/quote]
They don't use rap that much. I'd just call them metal.

[quote]Linkin park I guess could be hip hop or cloes to it.[/quote]
Agreed.

[quote]SOAD is just worthless, lol. alt rock sorta in the category of chevelle and breaking benjamin or staind?[/QUOTE]
I like SOAD, but they're hard to classify. They have alot of different styles and influences in their music.

Riva 01-22-2006 03:35 AM

Nu-metal is a wave, or movement, like NWOBHM. Compare Def Leppard to Iron Maiden, for instance. It isn't a genre, per se.

I'm Charming 01-22-2006 03:50 AM

[QUOTE=HeavyRiva]Nu-metal is a wave, or movement, like NWOBHM. Compare Def Leppard to Iron Maiden, for instance. It isn't a genre, per se.[/QUOTE]


We had grunge, then nu metal and now pop punk is the "trendy" type of music.

By the "nu metal" time I mean.

Back when limp bizkit was so popular and such.

Sph 01-22-2006 03:56 AM

If it's a movement, that brings up an interesting question. When will it end? Has it ended? Alot of bands classed as 'Nu-metal' today are completely different than nu-metal bands ten years ago. Maybe it has finished?

ValeOfShadows 01-22-2006 03:57 AM

^^And Metalcore.

Porcupine_F*cker 01-22-2006 05:13 AM

Ok, I know you guys arn't very keen on the bashing of bands... BUT THIS IS ****ING SLIPKNOT! YOU CAN'T BE SERIOUS!!! ASIDE FROM THE DRUMMER, THIS IS ONE OF THE LEAST TECHNICAL LEAST TALENTED BANDS OUT THERE!!! When I was in my Nu Metal phase they were cool, but that was years ago.

ValeOfShadows 01-22-2006 05:29 AM

^^Thats great. Thanx for your insight.:rolleyes: You just joined the 500 other people that came in here just to bash them.

Sph 01-22-2006 05:31 AM

Yep, thanks for contributing the sensible discussion. Your words will have deep meaning, i'm sure.

Leukeh 01-22-2006 05:32 AM

[quote=Porcupine_F*cker]Ok, I know you guys arn't very keen on the bashing of bands... BUT THIS IS ****ING SLIPKNOT! YOU CAN'T BE SERIOUS!!! ASIDE FROM THE DRUMMER, THIS IS ONE OF THE LEAST TECHNICAL LEAST TALENTED BANDS OUT THERE!!! When I was in my Nu Metal phase they were cool, but that was years ago.[/quote]

F[FONT=Tahoma]u[/FONT]ck you. So you don't like Slipknot? Get out of the damn thread then. And stay out. So they're not that technical - who said it has to be technical? Simplicity is fine. And they can be technical, it's just they don't need to be to please their fans. They are obviously talented - if they wern't how did they get a f[FONT=Tahoma]u[/FONT]cking record deal, and reach platinum at least once with all of their albums? Just because you don't like them, it doesn't mean nobody else should, and those who do are retards. You are the retard for not accepting others opinions. Get the [I]fuc[FONT=Tahoma]k[/FONT][/I] out.

Porcupine_F*cker 01-22-2006 05:32 AM

500 peoples enough to get this thread taken off the site. I personally think Slipknot should be one of the site's banned words.:smash:

ValeOfShadows 01-22-2006 05:34 AM

He was asking for that one. You dont come into this thread just to bash them.

Leukeh 01-22-2006 05:36 AM

[quote=Porcupine_F*cker]500 peoples enough to get this thread taken off the site. I personally think Slipknot should be one of the site's banned words.:smash:[/quote]

I said get out. In fact, I said get the [I]fuc[FONT=Fixedsys]k[/FONT][/I] out. Now get the fuc[FONT=Fixedsys]k[/FONT] out.

Porcupine_F*cker 01-22-2006 05:36 AM

[QUOTE=Leukeh]F[FONT=Tahoma]u[/FONT]ck you. So you don't like Slipknot? Get out of the damn thread then. And stay out. So they're not that technical - who said it has to be technical? Simplicity is fine. And they can be technical, it's just they don't need to be to please their fans. They are obviously talented - if they wern't how did they get a f[FONT=Tahoma]u[/FONT]cking record deal, and reach platinum at least once with all of their albums? Just because you don't like them, it doesn't mean nobody else should, and those who do are retards. You are the retard for not accepting others opinions. Get the [I]fuc[FONT=Tahoma]k[/FONT][/I] out.[/QUOTE]

That is the most fallacious argument ever. Is Ashley Simpson talented? No, then how did she get even greater commercial success? Is Slipknot better than say Testament, or Napalm Death, Arch Enemy, or less popular bands, simply because they sell better? Absolutely not. In fact, I argue because they tone down aand play such simple ****, tjhey are only more accesible to a widescale audience who can't appreciate good music.

Even if I thought Slipknot was slightly enjjoyable, there are thousands of bands who are simply so much better out there, they arn't even worth my time.

ValeOfShadows 01-22-2006 05:38 AM

^^If they arent worth your time why are you in here talking about them. F[I]u[/I][B]c[/B]k off.

Porcupine_F*cker 01-22-2006 05:40 AM

[QUOTE=ValeOfShadows]^^If they arent worth your time why are you in here talking about them. F[I]u[/I][B]c[/B]k off.[/QUOTE]

Perhaps I'm trying to enlighten others on what good metal is? Why do you ****ers get so uptight about people coming down on your bands. Try to defend them or something, but don't just say "get the **** out" thats retarded.

ValeOfShadows 01-22-2006 05:42 AM

I personally dont really like this band but i've learnt that it isnt fair to say to people that their taste in music is wrong because they dont listen to what i listen to.

Leukeh 01-22-2006 05:43 AM

[quote=Porcupine_F*cker]That is the most fallacious argument ever. Is Ashley Simpson talented? No, then how did she get even greater commercial success? Is Slipknot better than say Testament, or Napalm Death, Arch Enemy, or less popular bands, simply because they sell better? Absolutely not. In fact, I argue because they tone down aand play such simple ****, tjhey are only more accesible to a widescale audience who can't appreciate good music.

Even if I thought Slipknot was slightly enjjoyable, there are thousands of bands who are simply so much better out there, they arn't even worth my time.[/quote]

Hey. Dumb shi[FONT=Fixedsys]t. [FONT=Verdana]Ashley Simpson can sing. If she couldn't, then how did she ever become successful? Sure, Slipknot may play easier stuff that the bands you mentioned, but that doesn't mean they suck. They are an awesome band. You can't get to be as well known and popular as they are by sitting on your *** doing shi[FONT=Fixedsys]t[/FONT] all. They make music. Good music. I don't care if you like it or not, just stop bagging them out. The quality of music depends on opinion. I like them, you don't. Don't be a fag about it. Just stay out of the damn thread and don't be so pig headed.[/FONT][/FONT]

Sph 01-22-2006 05:44 AM

[QUOTE=Porcupine_F*cker]That is the most fallacious argument ever. Is Ashley Simpson talented? No, then how did she get even greater commercial success? Is Slipknot better than say Testament, or Napalm Death, Arch Enemy, or less popular bands, simply because they sell better? Absolutely not. In fact, I argue because they tone down aand play such simple ****, tjhey are only more accesible to a widescale audience who can't appreciate good music.

Even if I thought Slipknot was slightly enjjoyable, there are thousands of bands who are simply so much better out there, they arn't even worth my time.[/QUOTE]
It's called a f[COLOR="Black"]u[/COLOR]cking opinion! If you don't like them then get the f[COLOR="Black"]u[/COLOR]ck out of the thread! What you're doing is a bannable offense, leave now.

Porcupine_F*cker 01-22-2006 05:50 AM

[QUOTE=Leukeh]Hey. Dumb shi[FONT=Fixedsys]t. [FONT=Verdana]Ashley Simpson can sing. If she couldn't, then how did she ever become successful? Sure, Slipknot may play easier stuff that the bands you mentioned, but that doesn't mean they suck. They are an awesome band. You can't get to be as well known and popular as they are by sitting on your *** doing shi[FONT=Fixedsys]t[/FONT] all. They make music. Good music. I don't care if you like it or not, just stop bagging them out. The quality of music depends on opinion. I like them, you don't. Don't be a fag about it. Just stay out of the damn thread and don't be so pig headed.[/FONT][/FONT][/QUOTE]

Ashley Simpson Lip Sychnng innacurately on Saturday Night Live is a testaament to how talentless she is.

Oh damn straight you can. [url]http://www.nintendorks.com/brandon/archives/000475.php[/url]

I'm jjust trying to tell people, listen to some new bands. DOn't be sold on this one band becaause it's the best thing you know of. Check out Carcass, Morbid Angel, Deicide, Vader, Bathory, Testament, Napalm Death, and other bands not as popular but so mjuch more proficient than Slipknot, before commiting yourself to become there loyal searvant.

I was a Slipknot fan too, but then I simply found BETTER music. And I want people to experience that change too. The difference is I have exposure to both Death Metal and Nu Metal. Most Nu Metal fans have not the slightest knowledge of Death Metal.

Sph 01-22-2006 05:57 AM

[QUOTE=Porcupine_F*cker]
I'm jjust trying to tell people, listen to some new bands. DOn't be sold on this one band becaause it's the best thing you know of. Check out Carcass, Morbid Angel, Deicide, Vader, Bathory, Testament, Napalm Death, and other bands not as popular but so mjuch more proficient than Slipknot, before commiting yourself to become there loyal searvant.[/quote]
I like all those bands you listed as well as Slipknot. You'd be hard pressed to find a bigger Testament fan around here.

Leukeh 01-22-2006 05:57 AM

[quote=Porcupine_F*cker]Ashley Simpson Lip Sychnng innacurately on Saturday Night Live is a testaament to how talentless she is.

Oh damn straight you can. [url]http://www.nintendorks.com/brandon/archives/000475.php[/url]

I'm jjust trying to tell people, listen to some new bands. DOn't be sold on this one band becaause it's the best thing you know of. Check out Carcass, Morbid Angel, Deicide, Vader, Bathory, Testament, Napalm Death, and other bands not as popular but so mjuch more proficient than Slipknot, before commiting yourself to become there loyal searvant.

I was a Slipknot fan too, but then I simply found BETTER music. And I want people to experience that change too. The difference is I have exposure to both Death Metal and Nu Metal. Most Nu Metal fans have not the slightest knowledge of Death Metal.[/quote]

Hey fuc[FONT=Fixedsys]k[/FONT]tard. Grow a fuc[FONT=Fixedsys]k[/FONT]ing dick. Where the hell did you get the idea that we listen to Slipknot and ONLY Slipknot. Go fuc[FONT=Fixedsys]k[/FONT] yourself man. I listen to most of the bands you just mentioned. And a hell of alot more. Iron Maiden, Marilyn Manson, Dimmu Borgir, Rage Against The Machine, Dragonforce - you name it, I'll listen to it if it sounds good. I, along with most others, don't give a fuc[FONT=Fixedsys]k[/FONT] if what a band plays is easy or hard or whatever, if it sounds good, listen to it. We have different opinions on what sounds good (obviously) so how about you go listen to what you think sounds good, and I'll listen to what [I]I[/I] think sounds good. But leave this thread before you get banned.

Porcupine_F*cker 01-22-2006 05:59 AM

[QUOTE=KingJay]I like all those bands you listed as well as Slipknot. You'd be hard pressed to find a bigger Testament fan around here.[/QUOTE]

But do you like Slipknot though?

And Even if you do, all my friends who like them wouldn't have which is my point. The Majority of Slipknot fans in my opinion, only know bands that are accesible to them on Fuse and MTV2 and I find that really unfortunate.

ValeOfShadows 01-22-2006 06:01 AM

[QUOTE=Porcupine_F*cker]Ashley Simpson Lip Sychnng innacurately on Saturday Night Live is a testaament to how talentless she is.

Oh damn straight you can. [url]http://www.nintendorks.com/brandon/archives/000475.php[/url]

I'm jjust trying to tell people, listen to some new bands. DOn't be sold on this one band becaause it's the best thing you know of. Check out Carcass, Morbid Angel, Deicide, Vader, Bathory, Testament, Napalm Death, and other bands not as popular but so mjuch more proficient than Slipknot, before commiting yourself to become there loyal searvant.

I was a Slipknot fan too, but then I simply found BETTER music. And I want people to experience that change too. The difference is I have exposure to both Death Metal and Nu Metal. Most Nu Metal fans have not the slightest knowledge of Death Metal.[/QUOTE]

:rolleyes:Just because people post in a Slipknot thread doesnt mean thats all they listen to. Im listening to Nile right now and both Leukah and KingJay listen to a wide variety of music. Dont be so close minded.

Porcupine_F*cker 01-22-2006 06:02 AM

[QUOTE=Leukeh]Hey fuc[FONT=Fixedsys]k[/FONT]tard. Grow a fuc[FONT=Fixedsys]k[/FONT]ing dick. Where the hell did you get the idea that we listen to Slipknot and ONLY Slipknot. Go fuc[FONT=Fixedsys]k[/FONT] yourself man. I listen to most of the bands you just mentioned. And a hell of alot more. Iron Maiden, Marilyn Manson, Dimmu Borgir, Rage Against The Machine, Dragonforce - you name it, I'll listen to it if it sounds good. I, along with most others, don't give a fuc[FONT=Fixedsys]k[/FONT] if what a band plays is easy or hard or whatever, if it sounds good, listen to it. We have different opinions on what sounds good (obviously) so how about you go listen to what you think sounds good, and I'll listen to what [I]I[/I] think sounds good. But leave this thread before you get banned.[/QUOTE]
THIS IS MY POINT!!! SAVE MAIDEN, THE REST OF THOSE BANDS ARE WATERED DOWN VERSIONS OF THERE FOUNDING GENRE'S THAT YOU ONLY KNOW BECAUSE THEY'RE AAT OZZFEST. MILLIONS OF BETTER BLACK METAL BANDS THAN DIMMU BORGIR, MILLIONS OF BETTER BANDS THAN MARILYN MANSON. My point is you only like them because they are easy to access for you.

Why the hell would they ban me? Thats retarded. I'm being less bannable than you are. I'm not calling anyone a dickless fag or childish **** like that.


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