I screw it up because either I'm

1. Too picky
2. Blow my chances by getting all tense because I immediately feel like I'm under a jeweler's lens.

The latter feeling makes me extremely uncomfortable. And it's why I've put up so many barriers that ward people off.

Of course, it took me years to figure that out. :upset:

Part of an email from my girlfriend:

"YES THEY ARE WRECKING THEIR VOICES **** IT!!!! DO NOT ARGUE WITH ME ABOUT IT BECAUSE YOU'LL PISS ME OFF AND I'LL RIP YOUR ****ING HEAD OFF!!!!

did you know ur really cute tho? ^_^ and i love you and i miss you and it's 10 dayz till i get back?!? hehe yeah tonight i'm going to a show called Menopause I think you work tonight so you won't get this till after anyway...then i'm goin out for desert or something idk it's crazy stuff haha"

She's a really talented singer and I asked her why screaming annoys her, and that email is pretty typical.

She's crazy but it keeps it interesting.

Anyway being too picky is always the problem for alot of people. They find somthing wrong with them before they're going out but if they ever go "why not" they see that alot of the faults are gone.

[QUOTE=Steerpike]I screw it up because either I'm

1. Too picky
2. Blow my chances by getting all tense because I immediately feel like I'm under a jeweler's lens.

The latter feeling makes me extremely uncomfortable. And it's why I've put up so many barriers that ward people off.

Of course, it took me years to figure that out. :upset:[/QUOTE]

*pats on back*

Hey, being a spinster sounds fun. You get cats! Who then eat you but there's always gonna be payback.

[QUOTE=Moses]Part of an email from my girlfriend:

"YES THEY ARE WRECKING THEIR VOICES **** IT!!!! DO NOT ARGUE WITH ME ABOUT IT BECAUSE YOU'LL PISS ME OFF AND I'LL RIP YOUR ****ING HEAD OFF!!!!

did you know ur really cute tho? ^_^ and i love you and i miss you and it's 10 dayz till i get back?!? hehe yeah tonight i'm going to a show called Menopause I think you work tonight so you won't get this till after anyway...then i'm goin out for desert or something idk it's crazy stuff haha"

She's a really talented singer and I asked her why screaming annoys her, and that email is pretty typical.[/QUOTE]

She sounds like a real catch. :thumb:

As a singer myself, I can see why she might have a problem with screaming because if you do it with improper technique then you can pretty much kiss your vocals goodbye. That guy from the Deftones would be the perfect example of this. But if you do it right then there's nothing wrong with it. It's a pretty silly irrational hatred all the same.

[QUOTE=Cipher Hour]She sounds like a real catch. :thumb:

As a singer myself, I can see why she might have a problem with screaming because if you do it with improper technique then you can pretty much kiss your vocals goodbye. That guy from the Deftones would be the perfect example of this. But if you do it right then there's nothing wrong with it. It's a pretty silly irrational hatred all the same.[/QUOTE]
:wave:

Long time no see

[QUOTE=munky_magik]:wave:

Long time no see[/QUOTE]

Heh, didn't think anybody noticed I left. Nice to see you too munky. :D

Actually Chino has a very different voice than most people so his voice surprisingly stays intact. Fred Durst is a better example.

She still thinks that doing it with good technique is bad for your voice but when I do death growls it's easier than talking.

[QUOTE=Moses]Anyway being too picky is always the problem for alot of people. They find somthing wrong with them before they're going out but if they ever go "why not" they see that alot of the faults are gone.[/QUOTE]

Well, I do have certain standards that I absolutely refuse to compromise.

For example, I absolutely refuse to date any girl who smokes. As you can imagine, that really narrows things down.

[QUOTE=Moses]Actually Chino has a very different voice than most people so his voice surprisingly stays intact. Fred Durst is a better example.

She still thinks that doing it with good technique is bad for your voice but when I do death growls it's easier than talking.[/QUOTE]

My mistake on the Chino thing, I don't really follow the Deftones much (or Fred Durst while we're at it).

Like I said man, it's an irrational hatred. It's funny you mention death growls because I find those exceptionally easy as well. Guess it just comes natural.

[QUOTE=Moses]Anyway being too picky is always the problem for alot of people. They find somthing wrong with them before they're going out but if they ever go "why not" they see that alot of the faults are gone.[/QUOTE]
It was kind of the opposite for a friend of mine broke up with his girl today. They've been going out for a couple months, but she all of the sudden thought my friend was too "laid back" and "chill".

Yuck, I hate smoke.

/pukes

That's not really the kind of standards I was really talking about. Things that are repulsive to you are forgivable and I don't really associate that with being picky.

[QUOTE=Cipher Hour]Heh, didn't think anybody noticed I left. Nice to see you too munky. :D[/QUOTE]
Where on earth did you get to?

Did I miss out on the girlfriend talk? :p

I've had a few girlfriends in the past and a few one-night stands. But I think I've finally found the right girl.

/abridged relationship history

Speaking of history, I hung out with a few high school friends all day today, and...well, it just seems real tired. It was pretty shocking how I just feel like I've "outgrown" them, how it just seems like those are all over. On a related note, I can't wait to go back to school.

[QUOTE=Kurtz]It was kind of the opposite for a friend of mine broke up with his girl today. They've been going out for a couple months, but she all of the sudden thought my friend was too "laid back" and "chill".[/QUOTE]
That's the other problem but those people are usually the ones that don't want to get attached.

@Ray: You actually missed out more on the depression talk.

[QUOTE=munky_magik]Where on earth did you get to?[/QUOTE]

I went all out on my music and movie career. I've spent the last 6 months intensely writing music and scripts along with experimenting with different sounds/ideas. Right now I'm sort of on a vacation from all of that nonsense.

[quote=RNR]Can anyone take people who say that they suffer from depression as a disease seriously? If they're openly admiting it and aware of their disease, they should be coping with it nicely, right?[/quote]

I have a really long story to answer this question, but I'm operating under the assumption that no one would give a shi[font=]t[/font].

Anyway, I react to people depending on how they control themselves. If they say something like, "I have this, but I'm trying to fight it," then I'd "support" them (for lack of a better word, I trust you know what I mean). If all they do is whine and bitch about their depression, I couldn't care less about them.

The thing is, though, that clinically depressed people can't just "snap out of it." That's like saying a bulimic can just "stop throwing up" or an OCD can "stop washing her hands all the time" (as an example of OCD, I mean).

[quote=GaggingOrder]ANd, for the second part, there's always the possibilty that they're not coping nicely, they just don't mind telling people.[/quote]

This again fits directly with that story I have... bleh. Part of me wants to clarify myself, and the rest of me doesn't want anything to have to try to explain this story, heh.

[quote=Steerpike]Easier said than done, my friend.

I can live with the fact that I'm diagnosed with clinical depression. And I've come to terms with the fact that my entire life, I've never done better than break even emotionally speaking.

But that doesn't stop it. Depressive episodes can still be triggered. And it scares bejeezus out of me every time I notice the symptoms of one setting in. The next couple of weeks are a scramble to try and fight it off. And there's always that nagging question in the back of mind, "What if it doesn't work this time and I lapse anyway?"

Until you've gone through a depressive episode, you can't know what it's like. You're unable to feel. It's an emotional void. And no matter how many times you come out of it, all you know is that you don't want to go back. Ever.[/quote]

Upon reading this, I have a better understanding of what depression SHOULD feel like, and not what people whine about. It's not that I didn't know this before, I'm not that stupid, but:

I think people get tired of people claiming that they're depressed when they truly aren't and just one minor setback is making them feel down, and this repeated whining takes away from those who are actually diagnosed with the problem.

That was extremely vague. It makes more sense in my head, though.

[quote=GaggingOrder]I intended to leave all the past behing before next school year, because I'll be going to an all new school, but I might fail in a few aspects, and have to leave all behind before the year after that, where I'll be at another school.[/quote]

Hopefully you have better luck than I did. I'm not saying that to disappoint you, but I figured moving from one city to the next (and then later going from high school to university), that I wouldn't be judged for who I was and would be judged for who I am. It works both positively and negatively, though, so maybe you'll have more positives than negatives.

[quote=clearvision]I wasn't accusing you of bieng false with it. But when people close to you are going through depression and it affects you directly it is ridiculously annoying to not have any understanding of it at all.[/quote]

123456789.

Also, it's annoying when you have an understanding of the disease, but have people who aren't clinically depressed saying, "Oh, woe is me, I am so depressed."

[quote=someone]Bi-polar disorder.[/quote]

Meh, I guess I'll tell that story. Not in this post, though.

[quote=evilmenhavenosongs]I can't list my good qualities because I instantly think of people who have them better, how I don't use them to the effect I should or times when I've messed them up completely. That and I wouldn't do it even if I thought of them because I would be terrified of people seeing me as arrogant, for the same reason I'll never accept a compliment and just put myself down even more. Hurrah for paranoia.[/quote]

Same here, basically. I can never accept compliments, because I never think I deserve them. I always think of others who could have done the things I did that warranted the compliments faster, stronger, more, etc. and I don't find any satisfaction in the things I do. I'll say something like "Thanks, but it wasn't anything special" or something similar, and people like my dad will get furious with me for not taking compliments well. What's odd is that I can handle criticisms fine, but compliments not so much. But I'm not complaining here, heh.

[quote=Stoic]jeez, almost everyone in here seems to be suffering or have suffered from psychological issues

[size=1]this is good for me![/size][/quote]

I'm "healthy," and don't have any psychological issues. Sure, there are half-full glass days and half-empty glass days (and the very rare completely full or completely empty glass days), but I don't suffer from anything like depression, OCD, or have an eating disorder. I'm fortunate, yes, but I still learn about things like this because a) university calls for it, and b) it gives me a greater understanding in regards to how people function, react, etc.

[quote=Gilmour]If only people in real life were more like people in this thread. Most of us can empathize(sp?) in some way.

"Aaron why are you so quiet around people? Just snap out of it"

They make it sound easy :([/quote]

I get this a lot, and I think the same thing. I just kind of shrug and move on with it.

[quote=GaggingOrder]I realized a few weeks ago I can't play guitar.[/quote]

Nor can I, but I still practice. Have you thought about getting an instructor?

Maybe that person can help you find a starting place, and coach you until you're comfortable with playing.

[quote=Lord Abortion]therapist= the rapist
coincidence?
methinks not...[/quote]

Nice SNL Celebrity Jeopardy! reference.

[quote=evilmenhavenosongs' post edited]/has never had a real girlfriend to speak of.

/couldn't care less.

:cool:[/quote]

Fixed so it relates to me, heh.

[quote=Steerpike]I screw it up because either I'm

1. Too picky
2. Blow my chances by getting all tense because I immediately feel like I'm under a jeweler's lens.

The latter feeling makes me extremely uncomfortable. And it's why I've put up so many barriers that ward people off.

Of course, it took me years to figure that out. :upset:[/quote]

Isn't the important thing that you figured it out, instead of constantly guessing what your conflict is, though? Innocent question, I don't mean harm by it, naturally.

EDIT: sup humongous catch-up post.

[QUOTE=Moses]Yuck, I hate smoke.

/pukes

That's not really the kind of standards I was really talking about. Things that are repulsive to you are forgivable and I don't really associate that with being picky.[/QUOTE]

Well, I've got a lot of similar standards.

- I don't approve of regular, reckless drinking and partying. Too self-destructive, and it catches up with you really quick.
- Has to be artistically inclined. I think my nature should be explanation for that one.
- Has to be open-minded. See above.

What I really value in a woman would be a Romantic like myself. Someone who sees the world in the same mystical light as I do. Finding one is extremely difficult, though. And those that I have met thus far pursue these ubelievably self-destructive lifestyles which turn me off instantly.

I know what you're talking about by the artistic mindset and everything but not alot of people have that. That still doesn't mean that you can't influence things like that into their lifestyle. It doesn't even take that much effort either. If they're interested enough they'll probably look into your own interests.

I always fall for a girl with big eyes I dont know why I just do I have a few standards but not as much anymore sadly.


*Me sounds like a nob to women*

[QUOTE=Steerpike]Well, I've got a lot of similar standards.

- I don't approve of regular, reckless drinking and partying. Too self-destructive, and it catches up with you really quick.
- Has to be artistically inclined. I think my nature should be explanation for that one.
- Has to be open-minded. See above.

What I really value in a woman would be a Romantic like myself. Someone who sees the world in the same mystical light as I do. Finding one is extremely difficult, though. And those that I have met thus far pursue these ubelievably self-destructive lifestyles which turn me off instantly.[/QUOTE]
Ouch.

It's like a diamond in a coal mine for you.

[QUOTE=Moses]I know what you're talking about by the artistic mindset and everything but not alot of people have that. That still doesn't mean that you can't influence things like that into their lifestyle. It doesn't even take that much effort either. If they're interested enough they'll probably look into your own interests.[/QUOTE]

What I need to figure out is how to segue to it better. You know my musical tastes. A lot of it is a hard sell on some people.

The problem is that I tend to talk in geek-speak. To me, it all makes perfect sense because this stuff is so familiar to me. To others, it's all Greek. Fixing that little problem has been a bit of a slow process.

On the topic of singing, I haven't had any real lessons, though I've had vocal coaching. It seems that the easiest thing for me is switching styles. I can go from a vicious snarl to a clean wail very easily. I also have a very melodramatic voice. It's easier for me to get a lot of feeling into my singing.

[QUOTE=Cipher Hour]I went all out on my music and movie career. I've spent the last 6 months intensely writing music and scripts along with experimenting with different sounds/ideas. Right now I'm sort of on a vacation from all of that nonsense.[/QUOTE]
And you abandoned MX for [i]that[/i]? :p

[QUOTE=Steerpike]What I need to figure out is how to segue to it better. You know my musical tastes. A lot of it is a hard sell on some people.

The problem is that I tend to talk in geek-speak. To me, it all makes perfect sense because this stuff is so familiar to me. To others, it's all Greek. Fixing that little problem has been a bit of a slow process.

On the topic of singing, I haven't had any real lessons, though I've had vocal coaching. It seems that the easiest thing for me is switching styles. I can go from a vicious snarl to a clean wail very easily. I also have a very melodramatic voice. It's easier for me to get a lot of feeling into my singing.[/QUOTE]
Actually Dragonforce is a really good gateway band into powermetal. I've been letting some people listen to Fury of the Storm and is really appealing because it's so da[b][i][/b][/i]mn catchy. And the geek-speak could be fixed by a little more television (worked for me).

My step-dad thinks he can sing. I told him to record himself. That really puts your self confidence in your voice to an extreme low when you hear your voice recorded for the first time.

Hey all.
Interesting read, that last page. :P
No, seriously. It's interesting to hear what you guys have to say on the subject of girls. Guys confuse me enough as is, so it's good to hear what you metalheads think.

Feeling a tad guilty today; haven't played guitar since my lesson yesterday. I got real sick over the night and have to visit the doctor tomorrow. Great. Doesn't help that I don't like needles.

[QUOTE=Moses]Actually Dragonforce is a really good gateway band into powermetal. I've been letting some people listen to Fury of the Storm and is really appealing because it's so da[b][i][/b][/i]mn catchy. And the geek-speak could be fixed by a little more television (worked for me).[/QUOTE]

Bah. TV. There's only a few shows I have any desire to watch.

Anyway, I figure my first approach should be to have better icebreakers. That's why I'm learning magic. I wanted to learn handwriting analysis and that sort of thing also, but magic is more convenient.

[QUOTE=Taste_My_Scythe]Feeling a tad guilty today; haven't played guitar since my lesson yesterday. I got real sick over the night and have to visit the doctor tomorrow. Great. Doesn't help that I don't like needles.[/QUOTE]

That sucks. Hopefully it'll be easy to shake whatever bug it is you've caught.

[QUOTE=Steerpike]
That sucks. Hopefully it'll be easy to shake whatever bug it is you've caught.[/QUOTE]

Might be a lung infection or something; that's whats been going around. :evil:

So what's been up? I came in the R&M earlier today and it was pretty dead.

This is really off subject but Steerpike, I have a Rachmaninoff thread you might be interested in.

Hmmmm..... tell me about magic. It's not the duel card game that you're talking about is it?

[QUOTE=Moses]This is really off subject but Steerpike, I have a [B]Rachmaninoff thread[/B] you might be interested in.
[/QUOTE]

Is it in the R&M?

[QUOTE=Moses]My step-dad thinks he can sing. I told him to record himself. That really puts your self confidence in your voice to an extreme low when you hear your voice recorded for the first time.[/QUOTE]

I've actually heard my own voice recorded before. On campus TV. And I love listening to the sound of my own voice. :D Mostly because of the variety of tones I can pull off. I can go from a low, sensual whisper, to a belting lupine snarl and everything in between.

[QUOTE=Steerpike]I've actually heard my own voice recorded before. On campus TV. And I love listening to the sound of my own voice. :D Mostly because of the variety of tones I can pull off. I can go from a low, sensual whisper, to a belting lupine snarl and everything in between.[/QUOTE]

Ah, modesty.... ;)
What kind of stuff do you usually sing? PM?