[QUOTE=randomthought9]What's a good Opeth album to start with?[/QUOTE]
Blackwater Park

[QUOTE=randomthought9]What's a good Opeth album to start with?[/QUOTE]
Black Water Park or Still Life.

I'm in the need of some, I guess, screamo type stuff.

I'm listening to From First To Last, and I like it. Its relieving some stress. Are there any more bands like this, that are any good?

I don't know that band but when I think Screamo I think Circle takes the square. If you don't have it you should try that.

[QUOTE=Dude3]I'm in the need of some, I guess, screamo type stuff.

I'm listening to From First To Last, and I like it. Its relieving some stress. Are there any more bands like this, that are any good?[/QUOTE]

Alexisonfire, definitely. Their self titled cd is more screaming. Their other one: Watch Out! is more singing, but still screaming. It's probably a good first choice. Depends if you like singing or screaming.

Get some Finch if you haven't already, and Sparta. Porcelain is a good CD.

Can anyone recommend me some prog metal such as Symphony X and Dream Theater? I've checked out Liquid tension experiment also and like them. Im not really into Psychotic Waltz though. Any recommendations?

[QUOTE=Shadows Rise]Can anyone recommend me some prog metal such as Symphony X and Dream Theater? I've checked out Liquid tension experiment also and like them. Im not really into Psychotic Waltz though. Any recommendations?[/QUOTE]
Angra
Circus Maximus
Pagan's Mind
Lacrimosa
Eternity X

[QUOTE=Shadows Rise]Can anyone recommend me some prog metal such as Symphony X and Dream Theater? I've checked out Liquid tension experiment also and like them. Im not really into Psychotic Waltz though. Any recommendations?[/QUOTE]

Also check out Vanden Plas.

[QUOTE=Jasarn]Early Soilwork at least.[/QUOTE]It seems like im the only person who likes the newer soilwork stuff better.:(

Boy Hits Car - Boy Hits Car
Alice in Chains - Jar of Flies
Deftones - Adrenaline
Crossbreed - Synthetic Division

I'm looking to get into black metal, 'cept I'm not big on shoddy production. I've got the "Bergtatt" album by Ulver, as well as "Empiricism" by Borknagar, but where should I go next? I'm fair open minded, but I'd prefer if the production didn't TOTALLY blow (which I hear is rare for BM...). Thanks in advance.

Can anyone recommend me some good power metal bands and some songs for the bands you name ?

Except for Blind Guardian, Stratovarious, Symphony-X and Sonata Arctica.

[QUOTE=Stormrider331]Can anyone recommend me some good power metal bands and some songs for the bands you name ?

Except for Blind Guardian, Stratovarious, Symphony-X and Sonata Arctica.[/QUOTE]

[U][B]Angra[/B][/U]
- Carry On

[B][U]Edguy [/U][/B]
- Vain Glory Opera
- Until We Rise Again

[B][U]Rhapsody[/U][/B]
- Eternal Glory
- Symphony for Enchated lands

[B][U]Manowar[/U][/B]
- Wheels of Fire

[B][U]Dragonforce[/U][/B]
- Fury of the Storm
- Valley of the Damned

Thanks. Ive heard about Hammerfall, but never actualy heard their music...are they any good ?

[QUOTE=Stormrider331]Thanks. Ive heard about Hammerfall, but never actualy heard their music...are they any good ?[/QUOTE]
Crap yeah I totally forgot Hammerfall, they're amazing(ly cheesy). Check them out too. Some songs:

- Dreamland
- Legacy of Kings

[QUOTE=lintmunro]Crap yeah I totally forgot Hammerfall, they're amazing(ly cheesy). Check them out too. Some songs:

- Dreamland
- Legacy of Kings[/QUOTE]

Yeah Ive heard about them being very cheesy, but anyways thanks again though.

[QUOTE=Stormrider331]Can anyone recommend me some good power metal bands and some songs for the bands you name ?

Except for Blind Guardian, Stratovarious, Symphony-X and Sonata Arctica.[/QUOTE]
Just to add to munro's list.

Demons & Wizards - Heaven Denies, Poor Man's Crusade, Fiddler On The Green.

Dungeon - Insanity's Fall, A Rise To Power, The Art Of War, Resurrection.

[QUOTE=Stormrider331]Thanks. Ive heard about Hammerfall, but never actualy heard their music...are they any good ?[/QUOTE]
great band, by far my 3rd favorite PM band.....i recommend you the album "Legacy of Kings".

Well, this is pretty general, but I'm looking for a starting point in metal. I don't really know any bands, I like Pantera, and i've heard some Opeth songs that were okay, but other than that I'm pretty clueless. Thanks.

Thanks guys. And Apocolyptic Raids, I know of Demons And Wizards, being the huge IE fan(note user title) and huge Blind Guardian fan.

Thanks for the rest though.

And Ill look into that album Txus. Well If i like them...

[QUOTE=lintmunro]I'm looking to get into black metal, 'cept I'm not big on shoddy production. I've got the "Bergtatt" album by Ulver, as well as "Empiricism" by Borknagar, but where should I go next? I'm fair open minded, but I'd prefer if the production didn't TOTALLY blow (which I hear is rare for BM...). Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]
quoting my own request just incase anybody missed it...

[QUOTE=kingofthedrums22]Well, this is pretty general, but I'm looking for a starting point in metal. I don't really know any bands, I like Pantera, and i've heard some Opeth songs that were okay, but other than that I'm pretty clueless. Thanks.[/QUOTE]
Iron Maiden
Megadeth
In Flames
Stratovarius
Iced Earth
Black Sabbath
Symphony X
Death

That would be a nice start up.

[QUOTE=Stormrider331]Thanks guys. And Apocolyptic Raids, I know of Demons And Wizards, being the huge IE fan(note user title) and huge Blind Guardian fan.[/Quote]
I figured you might :p

[QUOTE=lintmunro]I'm looking to get into black metal, 'cept I'm not big on shoddy production. I've got the "Bergtatt" album by Ulver, as well as "Empiricism" by Borknagar, but where should I go next? I'm fair open minded, but I'd prefer if the production didn't TOTALLY blow (which I hear is rare for BM...). Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]


Both of those albums have black metal influence, but they are by far not black metal.

And if you don't want to hear bad production, stay away from black metal as that is a huge part of way black metal sounds.

[QUOTE=BoboTheRagingHobo]Both of those albums have black metal influence, but they are by far not black metal.

And if you don't want to hear bad production, stay away from black metal as that is a huge part of way black metal sounds.[/QUOTE]

Dang..well is there any BM you guys would recommend that will help me get into it then? I've read Dissection, Satyricon and Dimmu Borgir are fairly good to get people into the genre. Any help is appreciated, I really don't care if it's tr00 or not, I just want some good shiz.

[QUOTE=lintmunro]Dang..well is there any BM you guys would recommend that will help me get into it then?[/QUOTE]


Go listen to the album Darkthrone - Transilvanian Hunger, and if you can stand that production, you should be able to listen to most black metal.

[QUOTE=lintmunro]quoting my own request just incase anybody missed it...[/QUOTE]

Listen to megadeth's rust in peace, metallica master of puppets, in flames clayman,Ozzy osbournes live randy rhoads tribute, or any of those.

[QUOTE=custom>standard]Listen to megadeth's rust in peace, metallica master of puppets, in flames clayman,Ozzy osbournes live randy rhoads tribute, or any of those.[/QUOTE]


And you are a fu[SIZE="2"]cking moron.[/SIZE]

[QUOTE=lintmunro]Any help is appreciated, I really don't care if it's tr00 or not, I just want some good shiz.[/QUOTE]

If you go around asking for black metal with stupid slang, you don't deserve to listen to the commerical "black metal".

[QUOTE=kingofthedrums22]Well, this is pretty general, but I'm looking for a starting point in metal. I don't really know any bands, I like Pantera, and i've heard some Opeth songs that were okay, but other than that I'm pretty clueless. Thanks.[/QUOTE]

Also check out:
Amon Amarth
Arch Enemy
Kalmah
Children Of Bodom
Kataklysm

Thats if you dont mind screaming.:)

EDIT: i only just noticed you put Opeth their so you wont care about screaming.

[QUOTE=Stormrider331]Thanks. Ive heard about Hammerfall, but never actualy heard their music...are they any good ?[/QUOTE]
Little late, but I'll get my thoughts in here.

I find nothing special at all about Hammerfall and probably hold the crown for me of 'Most Mediocre Power Metal Band.'

Just my two cents.

[QUOTE=BoboTheRagingHobo]And you are a fu[SIZE="2"]cking moron.[/SIZE]



If you go around asking for black metal with stupid slang, you don't deserve to listen to the commerical "black metal".[/QUOTE]

Please tell me why. Thats what got me into metal.

[QUOTE=custom>standard]Please tell me why. Thats what got me into metal.[/QUOTE]

Because he asked for Black Metal not just any metal.

Can some one recommend me some technical/progressive metal. Im not talking about the popular bands like Opeth, DT, Symphony X and Spiral Architect. I want to know about some relatively unknown bands.

Haha read it wrong and now i look like an idiot. Sorry bout that.

[QUOTE=BoboTheRagingHobo]If you go around asking for black metal with stupid slang, you don't deserve to listen to the commerical "black metal".[/QUOTE]
I was joking...I just meant I don't care whether it's considered "real" black metal or not.

[QUOTE=GenuineImitation]Can some one recommend me some technical/progressive metal. Im not talking about the popular bands like Opeth, DT, Symphony X and Spiral Architect. I want to know about some relatively unknown bands.[/QUOTE]
Green Carnation
In The Woods
Vanden Plas
Jacopo Galli
Spastik Ink

[QUOTE=GenuineImitation]Can some one recommend me some technical/progressive metal. Im not talking about the popular bands like Opeth, DT, Symphony X and Spiral Architect. I want to know about some relatively unknown bands.[/QUOTE]

Age of Silence
Kayo Dot
Aghora

Thank you Txus and ATC.

What would you guys say is the best album by The Blood Brothers?

[QUOTE=lintmunro]I'm looking to get into black metal, 'cept I'm not big on shoddy production. I've got the "Bergtatt" album by Ulver, as well as "Empiricism" by Borknagar, but where should I go next? I'm fair open minded, but I'd prefer if the production didn't TOTALLY blow (which I hear is rare for BM...). Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]

[I]Sphynx[/I] by [B]Melechesh[/B]

[I]Sons of Northern Darkness[/I] by [B]Immortal[/B]

[QUOTE]I'm looking to get into black metal, 'cept I'm not big on shoddy production. I've got the "Bergtatt" album by Ulver, as well as "Empiricism" by Borknagar, but where should I go next? I'm fair open minded, but I'd prefer if the production didn't TOTALLY blow (which I hear is rare for BM...). Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]
Before I start, this is not directed at you, but at people getting into black metal in general.

I can't stand when people come into the genre saying how terrible the production is. The production is not top quality recording studio state of the art, etc, but it is the best production for the music. If a majority of BM had crystal clear production, it would be terrible. Half of what makes black metal great is the atmosphere, and a lot of the atmosphere is obtained through the production qualities.

Take for example Burzum - Filosofem. This album has tons of fuzz, yet I would consider it to be one of the most perfectly produced black metal albums. Perfect production doesn't always mean crystal clear, but what is perfect for the music.

So saying that the production for most black metal "blows" is very very wrong. If you don't like the production, stay away from the music. It's not as though you have to listen to it.

If you really want to get into Black Metal, then you should visit the Black Metal Thread and check out the albums mentioned in the first post. Don't try to get yourself into the genre with a bunch of psuedo-black, half-black bands, listen to the real thing.

I'd recommend starting with Burzum - Filosofem / Hvis Lyset Tar Oss and Darkthrone - Transylvanian Hunger / A Blaze In The Northern Sky.