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WilliaMega 04-10-2006 06:12 AM

[QUOTE=SkacoreDrummer]I just compiled a list of crashes to try :D

17" A thin
18" A Medium thin
18" A Thin
17" A Custom fast
17" A Custom projection
18" A Custom fast

18" AAX Stage
19" AAX Dark
17" HH Dark
17" HH Medium thin
17" HHX Stage
17" HHXtreme
17" HHXplosion

Corrrr

One of those may well be mine soon.[/QUOTE]

What type of size would give you that better sound, I like the Projection Crash, but what about 18 or 19"?

And stay away from A Zildjians for this?

Drum Phil 04-10-2006 06:16 AM

Those were all ones for me to try but i guess they apply to your needs too. I tend not to like the bigger projection crashes.

WilliaMega 04-10-2006 06:18 AM

[QUOTE=SkacoreDrummer]Those were all ones for me to try but i guess they apply to your needs too. I tend not to like the bigger projection crashes.[/QUOTE]

Too long of a decay?

blabla 04-10-2006 06:19 AM

[QUOTE=Tim]my thoughts exactly. The sig will probably be more expensive though.[/QUOTE]

i think the sig is cheaper, the hhx is kinda expensive for a china, i cant find the price you guys know it?
im looking for chinese that is trashy but moderate in volume. any other sabian china's you guys would suggest?

DruMMeR_BoY14 04-10-2006 06:20 AM

18" A Custom Projection crashes are your friend.

WilliaMega 04-10-2006 06:24 AM

[QUOTE=DruMMeR_BoY14]18" A Custom Projection crashes are your friend.[/QUOTE]

I have Zbts that ive began with... I have a crash ride that i hate to ride it crashing because the decay is just too long, so i ride a 16" Crash, too short, i would guess a 17" would do fine, or even an 18" thats actually a crash and not a crash/ride, Ill go check them out anyway, just need a checklist of thiings to check out...

DruMMeR_BoY14 04-10-2006 07:05 AM

theres more to a cymbal's sound than its size. Crash rides are uslaly horrible things, I'd sugest getting that list that phil posted and going into a store and finding as many models as you can and try them out. Best way of picking a cymbal is to hear it yourself.

Tim 04-10-2006 07:38 AM

[QUOTE=SkacoreDrummer]I just compiled a list of crashes to try :D

17" A thin
18" A Medium thin
18" A Thin
17" A Custom fast
17" A Custom projection
18" A Custom fast

18" AAX Stage
19" AAX Dark
17" HH Dark
17" HH Medium thin
17" HHX Stage
17" HHXtreme
17" HHXplosion

Corrrr

One of those may well be mine soon.[/QUOTE]

Definately try an HHX stage. :D. You havnt lived unless you have.

Drum Phil 04-10-2006 10:56 AM

[quote=flasportsfan88]Too long of a decay?[/quote]

Its not that, i just dont like the tone that much.

Tim, i plan to try the HHX :D Hence why its on the list. Tried the A Thin today and its pretty awesome, think i want something bright like an AAX or A Custom though

fullmetalhaallee 04-10-2006 05:37 PM

OK heres my deal. I have the Avedis box set now, consisting of a 14 inch fash crash, 16 inch medium thin crash, 20 inch medium ride, and my lovely 14 inch new beat hats. I want to start adding on, but I dont know what to start with. I was thinking of 3 options.

A 17 or 18 inch crash- I would want it bright, and want it to open quickly, and not go on forever.

An 8 inch splash, bright and quick

Or an 18 inch china- trashy, quick, but also good ride sounds.


Which one would you get, and what cymbal matches it best??

THANKS!!:chug:

Drum Phil 04-10-2006 05:40 PM

I rather like the 20" A china high.

17" A custom projection crash

DruMMeR_BoY14 04-10-2006 06:05 PM

Go with another crash I'd say. If you like Avedis, try an 18" Medium thin crash, or you could go for an A Custom crash or projection crash, I'd say either one get the 18" model, when your playing with a band you wont need to worry about them ringing forever, the other intruments will cut out the overtones.

fullmetalhaallee 04-10-2006 06:07 PM

[QUOTE=DruMMeR_BoY14]Go with another crash I'd say. If you like Avedis, try an 18" Medium thin crash, or you could go for an A Custom crash or projection crash, I'd say either one get the 18" model, when your playing with a band you wont need to worry about them ringing forever, the other intruments will cut out the overtones.[/QUOTE]

Very true, I was thinking K custom fast crash, again 18 inch, good idea?

Drum Phil 04-10-2006 06:17 PM

Yes it is. 18" HHX power crash might be to your taste as well.

fullmetalhaallee 04-10-2006 06:35 PM

[QUOTE=SkacoreDrummer]Yes it is. 18" HHX power crash might be to your taste as well.[/QUOTE]

I like it but not that much, its pretty dark and deep sounding.

fullmetalhaallee 04-10-2006 06:37 PM

The K custom fast crash sounds great on zildjians site, anyone know how accurate that is?

Drum Phil 04-10-2006 06:40 PM

Pretty. I have the 16" fast crash and its amazing. The soundclips not bad like.

Quinto 04-10-2006 08:06 PM

yeah but soundclips arent really very helpful, they make 101's sound like the god of all turkish cymbals

FooBuddy1989 04-10-2006 10:47 PM

20" A custom medium rides are beautiful, and real versatile

DruMMeR_BoY14 04-11-2006 12:34 AM

I think Zildjian EQ's their clips quite a bit, so I'd only use it a guide. See if you can find one in a store, its best to hear them in person.

I'm sure Drum Phil could give you a good description of one, I think he has a 16" model

WilliaMega 04-11-2006 05:39 AM

Now the tricks finding a place with all of these cymbals....

DruMMeR_BoY14 04-11-2006 06:40 AM

haha yeah, perhaps you could get your shop to order in a few models to test out?

The Feeding 04-11-2006 10:45 AM

hi-hats for playing metal (can take a beating) that sound good played open. Preferably Sabain.

Seafroggys 04-11-2006 05:46 PM

New Beats

....oh you said Sabian?

Well then, that makes things different.....

.....yeah, New Beats.

WilliaMega 04-11-2006 06:06 PM

I dont meen ju7st riding the crash in breakdowns, just harder parts in any type of music usually ride the crash...

HeLLmO 04-11-2006 06:49 PM

[QUOTE=sean2332]hi-hats for playing metal (can take a beating) that sound good played open. Preferably Sabain.[/QUOTE]

14'' HHX Groove hats(they pwn new beats IMO)

Seafroggys 04-11-2006 11:21 PM

^^^ Thats a negative.

WilliaMega 04-12-2006 05:37 AM

Ive tried New Beats before, nice, but just havnt relized why their anonymously the best hi hat according to the boards?

DruMMeR_BoY14 04-12-2006 06:32 AM

Because you can take them to a trash metal gig and then take them to a jazz gig and they'll fit in both situations.

new beats > chad smith > jesus.

We_Love_Lime 04-12-2006 06:34 AM

[QUOTE=DruMMeR_BoY14]Because you can take them to a trash metal gig and then take them to a jazz gig and they'll fit in both situations.

new beats > chad smith > jesus.[/QUOTE]

What if you only play Polka Trash Metal? ( Or one type of music )

10 Recording Customs for the win. ( Or something along the lines )

DruMMeR_BoY14 04-12-2006 06:55 AM

Well i'm sure they'll fit their too (I'd really like to see a polka thrash* metal band)

LostRythym 04-12-2006 07:06 AM

AAX stage hats. They can do anything.

Chris 04-12-2006 08:55 AM

[QUOTE=flasportsfan88]Ive tried New Beats before, nice, but just havnt relized why their anonymously the best hi hat according to the boards?[/QUOTE]

They are verstale that is all.

But UFIP Class hats pawn them hands down :)

HeLLmO 04-12-2006 12:58 PM

[QUOTE=flasportsfan88]Ive tried New Beats before, nice, but just havnt relized why their anonymously the best hi hat according to the boards?[/QUOTE]


they're not everyone's favorite. i had them in my school last year for jazz band, and of course, they were great hats, i simply prefer the HHX Groove Hats, because they are also very versitile(and come in 15'' w/o any of the worries of customizing and ****). Seafroggys, however, masturbates to the tought of his new beats most every night, so in his eyes the only hats that deserve to be in existance are new beats

Snarz 04-12-2006 03:04 PM

Does anybody have a Zildjian A 21" Ping ride.If so could you tell me aobut what it sounds like or could take some audio of it.And is $150 Cdn. a good deal for one thanks.

Plan B. 04-12-2006 04:35 PM

Yes, great deal. My 22" cost about $240 CND (new).

I love this ride, to me, it has the perfect balance of strong metalic ping, and deep, roaring wash. You can shank it and let out like a shriek of a sound, I love doing that. The bell is a tank, [i]great[/i] bell. Heavy, with force behind it when you shoulder it. It's such an overpowering sound, you can feel it when you belt out quarters on it.

DruMMeR_BoY14 04-12-2006 06:18 PM

I wish I had a 21" ping ride, unfortunantly they aren't in existance, they only make 20 or 22s.

I have the 20" model, and Plan B's description is quite fitting. Killer bell. I got mine for 400 AUS (new), have no idea how much that is CND.

Snarz 04-12-2006 06:51 PM

Okay I sent him an e-mail so I will see what I can do.Hopefully I can get it.

Seafroggys 04-12-2006 07:21 PM

[QUOTE=HeLLmO]Seafroggys, however, masturbates to the tought of his new beats most every night, so in his eyes the only hats that deserve to be in existance are new beats[/QUOTE]

shhhh! thats our little secret!

HeLLmO 04-12-2006 07:54 PM

[QUOTE=Seafroggys]shhhh! thats our little secret![/QUOTE]


hahah

but i gotta be honest, my drum teacher got some new beats today, and put them in a small little crammed room where i have lessons....to be honest....the sound wanted to make me kill babies


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