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The JoZ 02-27-2005 12:18 PM

Well, I mean, as much as he talks about it, that doesn't mean we know what it sounds like...

An 18 minute song? Ok, that just means it's long. It could be another Third Eye, or another Reflection, or sound nothing like either!

So it's complex. Is it Lateralus complex? Third Eye complex? Or more complex?

We just know it's supposed to be heavy and complex. That doesn't say a whole lot does it? :cool:

TheSubtleArts 02-27-2005 01:57 PM

i hope the toolband guy keeps posting updates of their studio work, if hes in there all the time, or it might of just been a one time thing i guess.

AenImA08 02-27-2005 03:56 PM

i was wondering if anyone in this thread would know EXACTLY what pickups Adam uses, i was planning on putting some on my les paul. thanks

ween2424 02-27-2005 04:12 PM

i love tool. when will there next album be? thats what im wondering

Darkness 02-27-2005 04:14 PM

Man..people have got to stop asking that question..

clearvision 02-27-2005 04:19 PM

123....bring Back Search!

Adam Jones is GOD 02-27-2005 04:20 PM

I hate that question too, but I must admit, im still asking it everyday to a higher force.....

clearvision 02-27-2005 04:26 PM

D'ya think the mods will allow me to write a new first post? Just linking to the toolshed FAQ, explaining that we have no date for the album as of yet etc...just so we don't keep getting the same **** posts? Anything else i should mention if i write it?

EDIT would link AJIG's FA too...that should be read

Adam Jones is GOD 02-27-2005 04:27 PM

i asked many many times, and so far, its all been ignored. but it would help amazingly if a regular on here had some control over the first post, so they could update it and link whenever.

We need ToolOwnsYou back, or SFK gigging schedule to go down/

Iloveemomusic 02-27-2005 04:32 PM

I like emo music..i sit in my room and cry all day. I would kill myself but i am too gay.
/cry /cry /cry /write ****ty music /cry some more

clearvision 02-27-2005 04:34 PM

[url]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6843290#post6843290[/url]

Second it or summat? cheers

Adam Jones is GOD 02-27-2005 04:43 PM

Bartender's idea of starting a new thread intrigues me, if its ok with the regs and majority here, we should go ahead and do it.

clearvision 02-27-2005 04:48 PM

Hmm, and link to the old thread? There's so much good sh!t here that i use for reference with the search function...who would want to start the thread?

Adam Jones is GOD 02-27-2005 04:50 PM

Close this one, and link to any good/relevant posts.

I can see Joz's opinion about this being the swing vote, everyone else is probably going to be torn.

clearvision 02-27-2005 04:54 PM

Is that a nomination for JoZ to start it :p I will draft some points when i'm bored over the next week or something...would we change the title of the thread?

Adam Jones is GOD 02-27-2005 05:00 PM

yeah, gotta lose the official title, since they're now resented. (back to our thread title discussion again). And it wasnt a nomination as such, it was merely a case of i can see him having a strong opinion on such a move. But he would be a good example as a person who could update it regularly.

Otherside 02-27-2005 05:43 PM

We never did settle on a new name way back when did we..

Kage 02-27-2005 06:09 PM

I don't know, it seems like after 139 pages of Tool discussion, it would be a shame to start a new one. Either way, I don't see a problem with it, but that's my feelings.

AenImA08 02-27-2005 06:16 PM

i was wondering if anyone knows EXACTLY what pickups adam uses, or if they would have any idea where i could find out, i was thinking of putting them on my les paul

Darkness 02-27-2005 06:30 PM

You said that already aenima08 and noone seems to no.

TrainTakeMeHome 02-27-2005 06:36 PM

I thought Adam kept which pickups he uses a secret?

AenImA08 02-27-2005 06:38 PM

i know he uses seymour duncans i'm just not sure what kind

TrainTakeMeHome 02-27-2005 06:40 PM

Why is it that Tool/Tool fans are resented by many on these boards?

Magicaltroll 02-27-2005 06:50 PM

[QUOTE=Kage]Let's not get too carried away here. This is all speculation and heresay. I hope they don't try too hard to be complex and have long songs, becuase that's just lame. If it just comes out, that's one thing, but to be all excited about it as if it's better to have long songs than short ones is stupid. I mean, I love long songs and Tool's longer songs (Lateralus, Third Eye, Reflection) are some of my all time favorites, but I just hope there wasn't the pre-concieved idea that it would be cool to write long songs, so let's do it.[/QUOTE]
I like long songs, like the mostly instrumental ones, i think theyre great because its stuff like that that you can just chill out to, ive been looking for stuff like that lately... cant really find anything....
But i also get what your saying, that they shouldnt try to force a way of writing because if they did they it might not flow as good.
well thats the way i see it atleast.

pigonthewing82 02-27-2005 07:27 PM

I heard Tool did a cover of Comfertably Numb, do any of you guys know if its any good?

pigonthewing82 02-27-2005 07:33 PM

[QUOTE=madeyadams]Never heard that.. but their cover of No Quarter is fuc[b][i][/b][/i]king amazing. I think it's a lot better than the original by Led Zeppelin.[/QUOTE]

Yea sombody said that to me about No Quarter by them, and I said there is no way its better then Zeppelin's, then they played it for me, I've never felt more owned in an argument.

True_Faith 02-27-2005 07:48 PM

[QUOTE]Yea sombody said that to me about No Quarter by them, and I said there is no way its better then Zeppelin's, then they played it for me, I've never felt more owned in an argument.[/QUOTE]

i have no fuking idea what you guys are talking about, i mean tool is a great band, but zeppelin is zeppelin, no one can ever play zeppelin like they ever could.

pigonthewing82 02-27-2005 07:52 PM

[QUOTE=True_Faith]i have no fuking idea what you guys are talking about, i mean tool is a great band, but zeppelin is zeppelin, no one can ever play zeppelin like they ever could.[/QUOTE]

Well Zeppelin is the better band for writing the song, but I don't know Tool's cover is VERY impressive. Its like the cover of Paranoid on the Randy Rhoads Tribute album. Its better then the original, but Black Sabbath is a better band because they wrote it.

physt 02-27-2005 08:00 PM

I'd like to see the Led Zeppelin write something like Lateralus! :)

The JoZ 02-27-2005 08:03 PM

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]Close this one, and link to any good/relevant posts.

I can see Joz's opinion about this being the swing vote, everyone else is probably going to be torn.[/QUOTE]

I heard my name.

Sup? :p

True_Faith 02-27-2005 08:04 PM

[QUOTE]I'd like to see the Led Zeppelin write something like Lateralus! [/QUOTE]

oh come on man, without zeppelin there wouldnt even be tool, besides in the 70's the equipment used to make lateralus wasnt even around....wtf?

physt 02-27-2005 08:06 PM

It was a joke.. Believe me, I'm a big fan of Zep.. But if somebody is saying that Tool can't play a Zeppelin song as good as them because they wrote it, that's backwards. They may need a new guitarist, but they can play Zep songs as good or better than them, I'm sure of it..

Magicaltroll 02-27-2005 08:13 PM

[QUOTE=True_Faith]oh come on man, without zeppelin there wouldnt even be tool, besides in the 70's the equipment used to make lateralus wasnt even around....wtf?[/QUOTE]
Zeppelin didnt like MAKE rock music, so there could still be a Tool.
and yeah you do need to calm down :)

TheSubtleArts 02-27-2005 08:38 PM

why are we comparing tool to zeppelin anyways? lets talk about tool since this is their thread

mudvayne420 02-28-2005 12:09 AM

i heard someone say that justins basslines were goin to be little more complex. Man can't wait to hear how thats goin to be, just another reason to buy their album hopefully soon. and does anyone know where to find a Digitech Bass Whammy, if so i would be pretty happy.

Radiohead235 02-28-2005 12:29 AM

Zeppelin Sucks
 
Led Zeppelin sucks, and they DID NOT create rock music. Screw that. The Who was before them, what about their credit, better yet Cream.

Tool owns Zeppelin

RunAmokRampant 02-28-2005 12:47 AM

According to the australian kerrang, tool's new album might be released in autumn. Over here thats in the next 3 months. Somehow I think thats a little too good to be true but we'll see. The music is definitely heavier and influences include Mike Patton (Fantomas) and Dave Lombardo (slayer). Going to have less quirky time changes and more brute force but there are still going to be some quirky parts thrown in. Well thats what danny said basically. from the start of feb they had 10 new songs musically completed. Not sure about the lyrics.

opeth_oasis 02-28-2005 12:49 AM

[QUOTE=Radiohead235]Led Zeppelin sucks, and they DID NOT create rock music. Screw that. The Who was before them, what about their credit, better yet Cream.

Tool owns Zeppelin[/QUOTE]

that wasnt necessary

Danny Carey is GOD 02-28-2005 02:51 AM

[QUOTE=TrainTakeMeHome]Why is it that Tool/Tool fans are resented by many on these boards?[/QUOTE]

In my opinion it is because its rare to get an 'average' Tool fan. People who are Tool fans are REALLY into Tool. Probably because they feel it is so much more than just music. Therefore you get lots of people going around defending and supporting Tool 100%. Lots of people get called Tool 'fanboys' who are the people who will not listen to someone criticise Tool. They will probably start ranting about how perfect Tool are and how nothing else was ever as good, and nothing else will ever be as good. However, I would say that these people are in the minority as people who listen and understand Tool are intelligent and mature enough to keep clear of the 'fanboy' culture. Although im sure we've all made the odd 'fanboy' posts before, sometimes i just cant help it. ;)

Werny 02-28-2005 04:56 AM

I recall Danny saying that the new album is heavier and less complex then Lateralus, so how can he also say that it's the most complex stuff he's played on? CONSPIRACY, that's what!

Tool hardcores, as Danny Carey is GOD (**** STRAIGHT) said, are in a state of illusion that because they are heavily into the spiritual aspects and everything they are automatically deemed top of the mountain. They're my favourite band, but I don't think I'm like that.

They don't understand that seeing mystical beings whilst on shrooms listening to Tool doesn't make them better people. Probably makes em more stupid.

I have now learnt to shed all previous inhibitions about the album, wait it out, and embrace the random. Opiate was immature and youthful, and it was awesome, so even IF they turn death/speed prog, it would still probably rock.

Jeezus, I'm looking forward to this album more then I was Halo2... can't be good (I hated Halo2). meh.


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