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In Chains34 01-29-2005 01:22 PM

46 and 2 is the best song. (Did I leave that out?) Yeah, f*cking brilliant bass intro.

AEDICULA 01-29-2005 01:42 PM

i have been a tool fan since aenima was released, but perfect circle's last release made me loose a little respect for maynard.

clearvision 01-29-2005 01:42 PM

[QUOTE=In Chains34]
One thing I haven't been able to figure out in Eulogy is if they're eulogizing an actual person and if so.. who? Bill Hicks, (ironically) L Ron Hubbard?
Sorry I left out some other greats: Hooker..., Stinkfist, etc[/QUOTE]

I think the general consensus is that the song is about martyrs in general. Whose aim is to be idolized like jesus. But their heart isn't in it, they are just loooking for fame.

[QUOTE=In Chains34]
(sorry, but I didn't like Opiate because it bordered on being punk).
[/QUOTE]

Punk! :lol:

[QUOTE=In Chains34]
Two things that annoyed me... Maynard mispronounces "solace" and he says "void of hate" when he should say "devoid of hate". Other than that? Tool ****ing owns. [/QUOTE]

Maynard says what he wants, with references to the songs we may have a celarer picture of what you are getting at. Lyrics to tool songs can be read straight from Maynards hands @ [url]http://toolshed.down.net[/url]

clearvision 01-29-2005 01:43 PM

[QUOTE=AEDICULA]i have been a tool fan since aenima was released, but perfect circle's last release made me loose a little respect for maynard.[/QUOTE]

When Maynard played the least part in that album?

In Chains34 01-29-2005 02:00 PM

[QUOTE]Punk![/QUOTE]

lol, are you calling me a punk or laughing at the fact that I called some of the album "Punk"?
Sorry but saying "**** everything" with quick riffs in the background sounds a little punk.

[QUOTE]I think the general consensus is that the song is about martyrs in general. Whose aim is to be idolized like jesus. But their heart isn't in it, they are just loooking for fame.[/QUOTE]

Cool, I was hoping they weren't just talking about one person... Gives the song more meaning.

jamesclelland 01-29-2005 02:01 PM

i'm not sure if your questions been answered, i saw tool play the grudge there last tour. amazing.

I've not lost respect for him since the latest apc release, i just like apc as much. I still appreciate what he does, just wasn't a fan of the remixes and covers. with the exception of passive. i cant get that song out of my head.

In Chains34 01-29-2005 02:01 PM

I like A Perfect Circle, I'm seeing them when they come to Boston. However, I AM hoping that they have more songs like "Judith".

clearvision 01-29-2005 02:06 PM

I was saying Opiate is no way punk.

The first few pages of this thread are on Eulogy, check em out.

In Chains34 01-29-2005 02:08 PM

Hush and Cold and Ugly...

AEDICULA 01-29-2005 02:12 PM

i respect maynard a lot, so a little lost doesn't change much... i wonderd if perfect circle's last album was a cop out so maynard could focus on tool more?... it just seems that tool's image contrasts so with perfect circles... i have see both, and both deliver...

clearvision 01-29-2005 02:13 PM

I think APC's last album was a political statement, knocked up to prove a point...that the world is sh!te and people should think and vote.

In Chains34 01-29-2005 02:16 PM

[QUOTE=clearvision]I think APC's last album was a political statement, knocked up to prove a point...that the world is sh!te and people should think and vote.[/QUOTE]

Yup, Emotive was garbage despite my slight interest in politics.

clearvision 01-29-2005 02:29 PM

It wasn't garbage, Passive, counting bodies and Imainge were cool. And the idea of the albumw as to get people to take a deeper intrest in politics.

AEDICULA 01-29-2005 02:35 PM

a perfect circle had the best stage set i have ever seen... maynard sang behind a drum of fabric and his shadow was projected onto it from behind. they played in this forest of metal trees. the ends of the branches lit up. lots of shadowy folded fabric too... like a david lynch movie or something... does anyone know where i can get trees like that? the acoustics Sounded like crap though... the mars volta opened for APC and I COULDN'T EVEN HEAR THEM.
sang is a stupid looking word.

clearvision 01-29-2005 02:45 PM

The mars volta and APC. B@stard, you shouldda bl0ody heard em!

AEDICULA 01-29-2005 02:50 PM

mars volta's new release compaired to tool's new release, i don't know what to be more excited for...or maybe system of a down?

panasonic youth 01-29-2005 02:51 PM

I'm ancipiating tools new stuff, but I don't know what to expect, a new sound of tool or the same type of stuff but different sound (if you know what I mean)...Maynard forever!

AEDICULA 01-29-2005 02:58 PM

i anticipate some great tribal souding drumming...

In Chains34 01-29-2005 03:59 PM

Mars Volta and Xiu Xiu are big hits around my friends.
I like my **** heavier. Those bands are very good and talented but it just doesn't whet my musical taste.

funk_rock_jazz_drummer 01-29-2005 04:00 PM

So i own Lateralus. And i think It is an amazing album. Im a little low on cash so i dont want to go out and buy all of them, so which album would you reccomend to me? thanks.

^Dream~Theater^ 01-29-2005 04:04 PM

Aenima

In Chains34 01-29-2005 04:09 PM

Yup, Aenima is def the best.

Magicaltroll 01-29-2005 05:54 PM

aenima
its great, listen to 46 and 2

drum2k 01-29-2005 06:22 PM

[QUOTE=AEDICULA]i respect maynard a lot, so a little lost doesn't change much... i wonderd if perfect circle's last album was a cop out so maynard could focus on tool more?... it just seems that tool's image contrasts so with perfect circles... i have see both, and both deliver...[/QUOTE]
I think maybe their last album was just a quick release cos they had to do that to stick to the record contract terms or seomthing, they havent had too much love with their label

TOOLphreak_46and2 01-29-2005 07:31 PM

[QUOTE=magicaltroll834]aenima
its great, listen to 46 and 2[/QUOTE]


what is it with only the Ænima CD?? i mean come on...its good and all but what about the songs off of Opiate,Salival,Undertow...Lateralus?? i think a good song is 4° (4 degrees) but i do agree with you on Ænema and Forty-Six & 2 being awesome songs...!!! \m/ lOuD iS lOvE!!!

Watch the weather change..... :)

GeeTarus 01-29-2005 07:41 PM

A friend of mine, who is also a huge TOOL fan, told me that their last album, Lateralus, was written like the steps of the Kabbalah. Each song was, in a sense, written about those steps. The only song that wasn't written in that format was "Ticks and Leeches", notice that it sounds a little heavier and different from the rest.

9 sides 01-29-2005 08:12 PM

[QUOTE=AEDICULA]i have been a tool fan since aenima was released, but perfect circle's last release made me loose a little respect for maynard.[/QUOTE]

If you are referring to Thirteenth Step, I have to agree. It was a big disappointment for me. It really lacked cohesion and punch. I did love Vanishing however. I havent been able to hear most of emotive yet...

dUSK 01-29-2005 09:10 PM

[QUOTE=9 sides]If you are referring to Thirteenth Step, I have to agree. It was a big disappointment for me. It really lacked cohesion and punch. I did love Vanishing however. I havent been able to hear most of emotive yet...[/QUOTE]

eMOTIVE was A Perfect Circle's last release. And Thirteenth Step was a great release, but I can respect that you may not enjoy it.

willis2441 01-29-2005 09:18 PM

why does anema have so many tracks and when is the new album comin out?

dUSK 01-29-2005 09:41 PM

To answer the first question, it is probably because of the many shorter tracks, ie: Intermission, Message to Harry Manback, Die Eier Von Satan, Useful Idiot. I can't see why anyone might complain about an album having too many tracks though. (You didn't, but I'm curious to why you asked)

Secondly, a release date for the new album has not been set. As far as we know, writing/recording is still in progress.


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