[QUOTE=kombucha mushroom mofo]Carey's statement could be taken a number of different ways. I'm sure you will hear some Meshuggah on the new album, but it depends on what elements they are taking cues from them. Tool could be using more mathematical elements, just like Meshuggah, or maybe Jones picked up a downtuned 8 string and is using it on a few songs. I really doubt they will develop a more brutal sound. The heaviness is not what impresses me about Meshuggah. It's their originality.[/QUOTE]
I hope they dont become like Meshuggah, their songs are insane! they have the weirdest rythyms....

i agree... i'm waiting for that album.
if i find ANYTHING on the new album, i shall post.

as for what i have heard, the golden bowl of jellybellys has been reported as low, sooo, i'm assuming it wont be too far away.

if anything else comes up, i shall post.

"Just remember I'll always love you, as i throw your f[I]u[/I]cking throat away."
:evil:

Ya.. I think the current best guess is next march? Or in the fall... for a fall/winter tour.. No real numbers though.. People just guess based on the fact that the band was working on it in studio before Maynard came back for a while.. And recently Blair said they finished 1 complete song.. "L.K" .. So that was about a month.. It would probably be a few months before it is completely finished at that rate.. Then it would take some shelf time for advertising purposes, Mastering etc.. I would guess late summer.. But again.. Nombody knows..

[QUOTE=BlindWriting]That was Blair describing the long-talked about "L.K." He put a lot of emphasis on the approximate 15-minute length, digital drums that Danny was using for parts of it, and Justin's bassline, which he described as being so fast and complex that it seemed "inhuman".

Sounds good to me. :chug:[/QUOTE]

amen to that. :chug:

i can only imagine the magic that Tool can come up with now.

[QUOTE=madeyadams]I really wish they have some sort of date at least to give to us. Does ANYONE have ANY idea when thier new album comes out? I've looked at various Tool sites, so I'm guessing no one really knows. But I'm sure a lot of people would like to know when it's coming out.[/QUOTE]

Its supposed to come out sometime between April-July thats what Danny said in modern drummer.

[QUOTE=Ænigma]Its supposed to come out sometime between April-July thats what Danny said in modern drummer.[/QUOTE]

Holy sodomized christ, dude April of this year?

Maynard's one busy man.

No, I'm not kidding. Hence, the "holy sodomized jesus"

:amaze:

If it comes out in April, I will cream my pants.

Yeah, that'd be a little premature.

tee hee

I'm going to hold you to that Madey ;)

Seriously though, my birthday is in April, so it would be super cool if the new TOOL came out then

[QUOTE=BlindWriting]I would love a Lateralus DVD. Maybe even with all the videos. I saw the Parabol/Parabola video not too long ago, and it ruled. Awesome stuff.[/QUOTE]
I know in Salival they have all the music videos before Lateralus. It would be nice a dvd with lateralus Music Videos and maybe some footage of them live.

[size=1]my birthday is in april too and so is Maynard's.... wow

that would kick as[i]s[/i] if it were out in april...[/size]

[QUOTE]I would love a Lateralus DVD. Maybe even with all the videos. I saw the Parabol/Parabola video not too long ago, and it ruled. Awesome stuff.[/QUOTE]

123. The video accurately depicts what's going on in the song. For example, when Parabola starts you see everything fly and break.

They were supposed to...

Dunno it's status now though.

Yeah Toolshed.down.net has talked about it briefly...

They were supposed to make a live DVD with footage from their last 6 shows on the Lateralus tour...

Don't know what's up with it now.

Yeah, I heard of a "Schism DVD" a long time ago. Probably the same thing.

No, the Schism DVD single and the live DVD are two different entities.

The Schism DVD may never happen, but I thought they were still working on the live one...

Have they released a DVD or video of live footage before, If not i have no clue why they didnt. There live shows are amazing, With the video and audio technology now they could make a unbelivable live DVD.

[QUOTE]i agree... i'm waiting for that album.
if i find ANYTHING on the new album, i shall post.

as for what i have heard, the golden bowl of jellybellys has been reported as low, sooo, i'm assuming it wont be too far away.[/QUOTE]

I agree. I also thought the reference below was significant concerning possible subject matter for one or more songs.


Excerpt from Toolband.com, Blair writes:
[I]Evidently, the golden bowl of Jelly Belly’s in Tool’s rehearsal space is running low...Danny told me that they’d knocked out another song that very afternoon. In describing it, he mentioned something or other about Maynard’s vocals – something that he seemed excited about, although to be perfectly honest, I really don’t remember what it was. At the time I was content [/I] with my papadam and glasses of Taj Mahal. From what he said about the timing and chord structure, however, this piece sounded like the song Adam played unplugged for Vidal last March in Havana as we sat on the balcony of a casa particulare (after eating those mysterious hamburguesas near Cementerio de Colon). [I]I could have asked AJ, who was sitting at the other end of the table, but, at the time, he appeared to be enjoying his papadam and various exotic condiments as well, so, instead, I changed the subject and talked to Danny about Collodi’s Pinocchio. [/I]


It would be interesting to see Tool translate Collodi's Pinocchio into a muscial composition. I may be trying to hard or not hard enough to decrypt Blair's musings, nonetheless, there is always something new to learn or think about.

Check out the link below, if your keen on Jung & Spiritual Psychology:
[URL=http://www.spiritualpsychology.com/changeexcerptch3.html]Collodi's Pinocchio & the Shadow Puppet[/URL]

I think this is aligned with Tool's output and would make for some excellent songs.

I have to stop reading new Tool info, I'm going to cream!

I wouldn't be surprised if it comes out in a month or two. They're pumping out new material like rabbits, and they're getting revved up about it.

WAAH!

Meshuggah and Fantomas.... excellent.

I hope that they still make extremely intricate music like Lateralus, don't want them becoming silly.

i find alot of their songs to be long anyways. I like Tool's song range, its not always short, neither is it always long. Just downloaded a Danny Carey drum solo. MY GOD IT WAS GOOD. I've never heard anything like it. I'm sorry i cannot explain what he used etc as i am not a drummer, but i know hard stuff when i hear it, and that sounded very difficult. Our bassist tried to play some Tool lines the other day. He said that it was some of the most difficult stuff he had ever learnt. Everything musically about Tool is great, and not to mention perfect live:thumb:

opeth,

Have you heard any Tabla drumming by Aloke Dutta?
Danny Carey studied Tabla under Dutta. I recommend a listen.

ok ill give it a listen

[QUOTE=ToolOwnsYou]hm.. good theory. I agree with you.it makes alot of sense.
where he says...
[B]
[I]"Something has to change.
Un-deniable dilemma.
Boredom's not a burden
Anyone should bear.

Constant over stimu-lation numbs me
and I wouldn't have
It any other way."[/I][/B]

"Boredom's not a burden anyone should bear." goes back almost exactly like you were saying america have been desensitised, it takes more to "stimulate" the mind. good ol' "Leave it to Beaver" just aint cutting it anymore.
[b]
[i]
"Blend and balance
Pain and comfort
Deep within you
Till you will not have me any other way"
[/b][/i]

Pain = Murder/Violence; Comfort- Sex/Drugs.
Till you will not have me any other way = If you fill the human mind with sex, drugs, murder, hate.. then removed it all, and air old re-runs of Happy Days, Leave it to Beaver, the Three Stooges etc, what do you then would happen to the Ratings? just imangine alot of pissed off people.

[b][i]

" Shoulder deep within the borderline.
Relax. Turn around and take my hand."

"Knuckle deep inside the borderline.
This may hurt a little but it's something you'll get used to.
Relax. Slip away."

[/b][/i]

I'd say this is the view of the major television networks, Basicly anal fisting/raping you, sucking you into the grime of american t.v.

[B]The end[/B].. im at work and I gotta get busy.. I could keep going but i'll save you, and save myself from getting yelled at by the boss for not working.. Thats my view on the track, basically the same as metally_mental, enjoy!

:evil:[/QUOTE]


i agree with you, but i also think that the person who said it was about anal fisting is not "completely wrong" just not thinking very deeply. i think that maynard is using anal fisting as a metaphor for the numbing of the sense of the human race, there is just far too much innuendo for this to be overlooked. hence "turn around and take my hand" -personal favourite the whole "knuckle/elbow/shoulder deep within the borderline"- this sums up the metaphor pretty well i think, it works on that once a 'finger in the anus' so to speak was enough to satisfy people, it was once fresh and exciting and controversial, but as time went on people pushed the boundaries and it became norm, so another finger was inserted and so on until we get to the point that we need an entire arm up their to feel anything (hence "keep digging until i feel something")
"how can this mean anything to me? if i really dont feel a thing at all" makes me think of someone just sitting infront of a tv and just mindlessly watching all this sex and violence and being completely and utterly unnaffected by it.
thats just what i think.
cheers.

OK this is really strange.

Does anyone else feel a slight bit of negativity about the death metal influence on the new album?

I can't help it. Danny says the songs are less complicated.

Lateralus is the best album because of:
1) Drumming
2) Lyrics
3) The complexity of every song!

I hope they keep that complexity. From that Danny interview it sounds like they're making a *gasp* dumb Tool album!

I'd hate to look forward to it soooo much and then find it's a regular, repetitive death prog album.

Anyone else feel the same?

(no matter what, the album will be good, but if this is true, it will keep Tool from being all they can be)

werny!

I believe that Tool has an understanding of progression. Even if it takes on some heavier influences, Tool knows how to put the pieces together in a complimentary way,( I think this is where a lot of other bands fall apart and lose the audience.) I welcome the bands new experiments.

I also welcome them, but I mean that they are the most intelligent band ever, they have so much substance, I don't want "less complicated" songs.

It's not the death metal influence I'm afraid of (I'm really enjoying heavy stuff lately), it's the dumbed down nature that Danny reffered too.

Of course the lyrics will be as good, the drumming will kick all sorts of arse (and I mean ALL, it will be the best drumming ever, I can see it), but the songwriting.

After hearing Adam's work on Pigs of the Roman Empire, I'm 100% sure that he will keep up the ambience. Which is good.

Just the songwriting.

Your wrong about how they said it was less complicated dude, Danny said it was the most complex peice of music he'd ever been involved with.

So basically they're recording songs that will be like Stinkfist, Sober, and 46 & 2... Heavier and slightly more simple. I have no problem with that. Although I will miss songs like Lateralus and Third Eye.

No, AJ has stated that they're are over 18 minute long songs, which is more of a progressive thing.


This speculation is pointless, just wait for the album.



[SIZE=11]ATT: AJG!!![/SIZE]


Where is Gmac?

You know, use the magic whistle if you must summon me.

I dont know where half the memebers who posted here are. We've seen the likes of ToolOwnsYou and deadohiosky9 dissapear since the thread has been going.

:\

I don't ToolOwnsYou was even around when I started posting...

Didn't Gmac say something about moving? It's been a while since he said that though.

Hmm i have his email if you would like it. Lots of people come and go...I been here from the start though... OGT :)

Clearvision and AJIG, old skool Tool honouaries. :cool:

Toolband.com talked about at least one 18 minute song, in which he (the webmaster or w/e) said it was one of, if not the most complex song they've ever written. He said that Justin's basswork was very impressive, which excites the hell out of me.

So far, every source I've seen on the new album seems to make it more complex, and heavier, than their previous stuff. If this is true, it may dam[color=white]n[/color] well be one of the best metal albums ever.

Let's not get too carried away here. This is all speculation and heresay. I hope they don't try too hard to be complex and have long songs, becuase that's just lame. If it just comes out, that's one thing, but to be all excited about it as if it's better to have long songs than short ones is stupid. I mean, I love long songs and Tool's longer songs (Lateralus, Third Eye, Reflection) are some of my all time favorites, but I just hope there wasn't the pre-concieved idea that it would be cool to write long songs, so let's do it.

[QUOTE=The JoZ]Toolband.com talked about at least one 18 minute song, in which he (the webmaster or w/e) said it was one of, if not the most complex song they've ever written. He said that Justin's basswork was very impressive, which excites the hell out of me.

So far, every source I've seen on the new album seems to make it more complex, and heavier, than their previous stuff. If this is true, it may dam[color=white]n[/color] well be one of the best metal albums ever.[/QUOTE]

I wonder if they'll split up their longer songs again. Lateralus was threatening to be a 6 song album, at the same length (we had rumours of 23 minute tracks for that, and it turned into Triad, Disposition and Reflection)

But Blair's commenting on actually hearing these songs, as well as being in constant touch with the band is what is getting me excited. There are few other sources that i can trust or are any use.

Well, I mean, the dude running Toolband has claimed to actually been in the studio with them. So while it might be heresay, I think it's at least semi-reliable heresay :D

EDIT: AJIG beat me to it :p

[QUOTE=The JoZ]Well, I mean, the dude running Toolband has claimed to actually been in the studio with them. So while it might be heresay, I think it's at least semi-reliable heresay :D[/QUOTE]

Yes, it is indeed a reliabe source, but I just wish Blair wouldn't be setting us up so much...I like going into album not really knowing what to expect. Besides, throughout the course of writing an album, many things change.

What I'm saying is that Blair might be just pumping us too much excitment on something that shouldn't really be relevant in how "good" the songs are.

[QUOTE=Kage]Yes, it is indeed a reliabe source, but I just wish Blair wouldn't be setting us up so much...I like going into album not really knowing what to expect. Besides, throughout the course of writing an album, many things change.

What I'm saying is that Blair might be just pumping us too much excitment on something that shouldn't really be relevant in how "good" the songs are.[/QUOTE]

I think its a little bit of that tool attitude is rubbing off on Blair