Rambo is all around good. I think "If Our Leaders Are Imptent Only The People Can Rise" Is by far my favorite song(as of right now)

I just got back from the Ed Gein/Number 12 Looks Like You show. Whoever told me that TN12LLY was bad live was insane. They were intense, I love it. Ed Gein was awesome, too.

Dude, it's all about "The War On Self-Esteem".

[quote=NewKindOfArmy03]I'm not an expert, but I think death metal is more technical and has cleaner production whereas black metal is raw and simpler than death metal. I'm not sure about this one, but typically in death metal the vocalists growl while in black metal, they have high pitched vocals. I'm bad at explaining, it's easy to tell the difference when you listen to the two though.[/quote]
[quote=Ben]Death metal is more of an expansion of thrash metal just with a bunch of brutality and a purge of rock from its bloodstream. Black metal was conglomeration of original black metal (venom, bathory, slayer, hellhammer, etc.) with a need for evil to be presented. Musically black metal is more straight forward while death metal is more complicated.[/quote]
Ah, thanks.

[QUOTE=cbmartinez]I always thought Black Metal was less heavy and more about creating at atmosphere through the use of synth/keys. Nevertheless, Dimmu Borgir rule.[/QUOTE]
That's more of the newer poppier bands. The OG BM bands didn't use keys that much if at all, exception being Burzum.

[QUOTE=cbmartinez]I always thought Black Metal was less heavy and more about creating at atmosphere through the use of synth/keys. Nevertheless, Dimmu Borgir rule.[/QUOTE]

You can create plenty of atmosphere without synth/keys. And female vocals. I personally don't like either of them, they have no place in black metal (for the most part). And Dimmu Borgir doesn't rule, listen to Craft.

SATANIC TERRORISM!

[QUOTE=Subvert_bassist]Dude, it's all about "The War On Self-Esteem".[/QUOTE]

tr00f, that song pwns all other songs in existence.

[QUOTE=RetiredAt21]You can create plenty of atmosphere without synth/keys. And female vocals. I personally don't like either of them, they have no place in black metal (for the most part). And Dimmu Borgir doesn't rule, listen to Craft.

SATANIC TERRORISM![/QUOTE]
Dude it depends on how the female vocals are used.

I finally bought a Nausea album. Pretty cool.

The best RAMBO songs are Wall of Death the System, Guinea Pig Pride, and the War on Self-Esteem.

I prefer Wall Of Death The System and If Our Leaders Are Impotent.

Nausea is real ****ing good too.

Nausea is amazing.

[QUOTE=whiteminority]Dude it depends on how the female vocals are used.[/QUOTE]

As of yet, I haven't heard any female vocals in black metal that were worth mentioning.

I downloaded R.A.M.B.O., Municipal Waste, Bones Brigade, Nausea, and eventually Napalm Death tonight. Just to name some.

Bliss.

Yeah man, it's hard to be dissapointed with any of those bands, they're all really good.

[QUOTE=Crack-Rock-Steady]I downloaded R.A.M.B.O., Municipal Waste, Bones Brigade, Nausea, and eventually Napalm Death tonight. Just to name some.

Bliss.[/QUOTE]
You're welcome. :wave:

i love the Code red...long live the code album by napalm.. ive been listinin to it for a few days now to get ready for the up comming show.

Anyone have any Doom albums other than War Crimes?(if their are any others)

[QUOTE=clustifux]Anyone have any Doom albums other than War Crimes?(if their are any others)[/QUOTE]
I have several discography type albums. [i]Doomed from the Start[/i], [I]Total Doom[/I], and [I]**** Peaceville[/I] (which I think was an actual release).

I can't get into the new Napalm Death album, I don't like it all that much.

Napalm is coming here in March with A Perfect Murder, Undying, Devastator, and Kreator, but I'm not going. Waaay too much money. I just can't put down $25 for a show.

However, Tragedy is tomorrow. Now that will be a sick show.

Yeah, I'm sure Tragedy will kick major a'ss.

I have almost every Doom album.

I have a bitch of a time finding Doom albums. Anyone have any suggestions which album to get first?

Ive been listinin to the discographies i got from J for the past few hours and they are all great.

[QUOTE=Fritz Plays Bass]I have a bitch of a time finding Doom albums. Anyone have any suggestions which album to get first?[/QUOTE]

I think they're all good, you can't really go wrong with Doom.

My ride to Berkeley flaked, so I don't get to see Tragedy. Laaaaame.

They'll go back. you have a better chance of seeing em often, then me over here in TX.

[QUOTE=Subvert_bassist]My ride to Berkeley flaked, so I don't get to see Tragedy. Laaaaame.[/QUOTE]

Aww dude, that sucks so bad.

what do you guys think of metal bands that adapt grindcore to their sound? primarily black metal bands that are known as war metal.

Andrew I think I'm probably going to TNTLLY show, but the only thing is that it's with Chiodos. Is it worth it?