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Britton 01-06-2006 03:57 PM

[QUOTE=Joe]I remember that, the chorus. It went throughout the whole song.. You should redo it. Make it about half as long with 2 guitars.[/QUOTE]

Yea that's a good idea

do you want to do a project sometime? remember when we tried to do FWTBT?

DieterWeber 01-06-2006 04:00 PM

I can play mostly every 'Tallica song to date, battery is the easiest

Father_Jack 01-06-2006 04:01 PM

[QUOTE=DieterWeber]I can play mostly every 'Tallica song to date, battery is the easiest[/QUOTE]

Wrong....Just wrong.

Sorry for the bad post britton :p

Mein bass 01-06-2006 04:06 PM

I plan on learning orion soon.
That song has such a good bass line.
Im thinking that Metallicas next cd is gonna lean more towards the modern metal sound if they pick up from st.Anger.
What do you guys think?

Joe 01-06-2006 04:07 PM

Battery the easiest? Whens the last time you left that hole? It must have been before 1991.

[QUOTE]Yea that's a good idea

do you want to do a project sometime? remember when we tried to do FWTBT?[/QUOTE]

YES

Britton 01-06-2006 04:08 PM

[QUOTE=Father_Jack]Wrong....Just wrong.

Sorry for the bad post britton :p[/QUOTE]


What post? this one?

I wouldn't say Battery is the easiest. The easiest is probably...well anything from the Black album up. This year I'm gonna learn all of St. Anger and A7X's Waking the Fallen (I already know 6 of the songs from that one and 5 from St.Anger)

what are my other Tallica friends gonna improve on this year?

Father_Jack 01-06-2006 04:12 PM

[QUOTE=Britton]
what are my other Tallica friends gonna improve on this year?[/QUOTE]

Definately writing my own material. And getting solos down, I can play a few, but I get bored easily if its not going my way. :)

Mein bass 01-06-2006 04:12 PM

I plan on learning alot of Megadeth on bass.
I also wanna try my hands at some Primus and Red Hot Chili Peppers.
Im trying to get as good as I can on bass,so hopefully I can be in a succesful band one day. :)

Edit-Thanks for reminding me Father Jack.
I also wanna work on writing my own material.
At least one original song by the end of this year.

BLS_Infernus 01-06-2006 04:14 PM

[QUOTE=Mein bass]I plan on learning orion soon.
That song has such a good bass line.
Im thinking that Metallicas next cd is gonna lean more towards the modern metal sound if they pick up from st.Anger.
What do you guys think?[/QUOTE]

wrong...Metallica said solos are back on and they are sticking to more of there roots

Joe 01-06-2006 04:14 PM

[QUOTE=Britton]What post? this one?

I wouldn't say Battery is the easiest. The easiest is probably...well anything from the Black album up. This year I'm gonna learn all of St. Anger and A7X's Waking the Fallen (I already know 6 of the songs from that one and 5 from St.Anger)

what are my other Tallica friends gonna improve on this year?[/QUOTE]

Yes. I'm going to finish learning Ride the Lightning. Definitely start ...And Justice for All, Ascendancy, and maybe Waking the Fallen. I love that cd, it's amazing. Chapter Four is awesome.

[QUOTE]wrong...Metallica said solos are back on and they are sticking to more of there roots[/QUOTE]

Yes. They said themselves that there would be a return of soloing and "not new metal, but metal that is new." It'll be better.

[QUOTE]Definately writing my own material. And getting solos down, I can play a few, but I get bored easily if its not going my way. [/QUOTE]

I've been getting better at soloing. I've been starting to take all of my generic solos and taking a note here and there and adding a little thing like a bend or hammer just to make the whole thing so much cooler. That's another resolution this year.

NP: Chapter Four - A7X

Father_Jack 01-06-2006 04:16 PM

[QUOTE=Mein bass]I plan on learning alot of Megadeth on bass.[/QUOTE]


I definately recommend learning Dawn Patrol on bass coz its so simple and so ace. Five magics is also cool.

N.P; Dawn Patrol

"Still we sleepwalk off to work, while our n-n-n-nervous systems jerk." :cool:

fatbandit 01-06-2006 04:23 PM

Five Magics on bass = awesome. Dawn Patrol would be cool if the song itself wasn't so dire. Other songs to look at learning - Holy Wars, My Last Words, Peace Sells. All cool stuff.

But Metallica related, yeah, I'd be interested to see what comes out... Metal that is new... So... kind of with the New Wave of American Heavy Metal/Metalcore stuff that's in at the moment, reckon they'll lean towards that? I don't think Lars is up to that to be honest...

:smash:

Mein bass 01-06-2006 04:28 PM

Fatbandit,I love your avi.
Cliff is on mine to.And just to be sure...is that Sephiroth?

And yes Five Magics is an awesome song.

Britton 01-06-2006 04:30 PM

[QUOTE=Joe]Yes. I'm going to finish learning Ride the Lightning. Definitely start ...And Justice for All, Ascendancy, and maybe Waking the Fallen. I love that cd, it's amazing. Chapter Four is awesome.



Yes. They said themselves that there would be a return of soloing and "not new metal, but metal that is new." It'll be better.



I've been getting better at soloing. I've been starting to take all of my generic solos and taking a note here and there and adding a little thing like a bend or hammer just to make the whole thing so much cooler. That's another resolution this year.

NP: Chapter Four - A7X[/QUOTE]


Waking the fallen is really easy (all the songs I've learned) I started with Unholy confessions then chapter four...then it was like "Hey I'm gonna leanr the whole album in track order!" Ascendancy was pretty hard for me to learn.
and it would be cool to learn the RTL solo!

Good Job Tallica forum. This is how it's supposed to look.

Hey mein bass how long have you been playing?

Joe 01-06-2006 04:30 PM

I want heavy metal. I don't want nu metal, hardcore, metalcore, all those other little subgenres. Whatever they put out, it should be Metallica metal. It should be heavy guitar riffs, cool lyrics, good drumming, and solos.

[QUOTE]Good Job Tallica forum. This is how it's supposed to look. [/QUOTE]

Yup. Even though it was spammy for awhile I'm glad to see it's active again.

[QUOTE]Ascendancy was pretty hard for me to learn.
and it would be cool to learn the RTL solo![/QUOTE]

I know a lot of riffs off Ascendancy but none of the solos. I know most of the RTL solo but I can't play it up to speed. What I meant was that I was going to finish the whole entire RTL album. I'd also like to improve my recordings. I want to make them sound much more real.

Mein bass 01-06-2006 04:33 PM

[QUOTE=Britton]

Hey mein bass how long have you been playing?[/QUOTE]
3 years,almost 4.And btw im 16 in case you were wondering.
Why do you ask?
(Sorry if this is spam :-\ )

Joe 01-06-2006 04:36 PM

Tis' not. I've been guitaring for almost 6 now...

I'd also like to learn Sonata Arctica's [I]Silence[/I].

NP: SA - Black Sheep

What other Metallica songs should I know? I haven't learned the first Four Horsemen solo. I should learn that, along with 6 or 7 other ones off that album.

Britton 01-06-2006 04:37 PM

[QUOTE=Joe]I want heavy metal. I don't want nu metal, hardcore, metalcore, all those other little subgenres. Whatever they put out, it should be Metallica metal. It should be heavy guitar riffs, cool lyrics, good drumming, and solos.



Yup. Even though it was spammy for awhile I'm glad to see it's active again.



I know a lot of riffs off Ascendancy but none of the solos. I know most of the RTL solo but I can't play it up to speed. What I meant was that I was going to finish the whole entire RTL album. I'd also like to improve my recordings. I want to make them sound much more real.[/QUOTE]


Definatly we don't want Nu metal we want Metal that's new...lol I love James's sense of humor.

Oh do you mean Ascendancy the entire album? wow I'm not gonna attempt that...maybe next year lol. WTF is easy so I'll probably have that done by Febuary. I would like to learn most of RTL I know

FTB FWTBT Creeping Death A bunch of RTL and I know Fight Fire with Fire. But the only solo I know is the FTB solo and I don't know all of it

Joe 01-06-2006 04:40 PM

Yes, hopefully the entire Ascendancy album.

I know the solos to Creeping Death (nearly) and Fade to Black and can play them up to speed. I know the CotK and RTL solos but not up to speed. I haven't tried Escape, FFwF, or TUI in ages. I know FWTBT, it's easy.

Nice new avatar. I'm working on one here.

300 more to 7,000

edit: I think that quote was from Kirk actually. It was from the Metallica.com new video from the studios.

Father_Jack 01-06-2006 04:40 PM

[QUOTE=Britton]Definatly we don't want Nu metal we want Metal that's new...lol I love James's sense of humor.
[/QUOTE]


:lol: Yeah hes ace, "K-N-E-W metal, we knew metal, and we still know metal."

The rest of them are dorks, especially kirk :p

fatbandit 01-06-2006 04:41 PM

Ah, for me, Ascendancy isn't that hard on bass, Paolo doesn't do anything immensely hard. I only know Pull Harder and Gunshot though, seeing as my band play them. Good bass tabs are scarce as anything though, and for a lot of songs (not just Trivium, a lot of Metallica stuff and others too), the guitar pro files are piss poor. If the guitar parts are right, it gets 5 stars. The bass parts get overlooked somewhat. Usually close enough to work the rest out though. I've never learnt any album in order though all the way through...

I really should change my avatar. When I changed it back to this, I changed it to the one with the spelling mistake. I have a proper one with correct spelling floating around, I'm just lazy. And yes, 'tis Sephiroth.

What I don't want to see from Metallica is a backwards step. 80's metal again would be cliched, forced and I don't think I'd enjoy it. If Rob plays like he can (from what I've seen in BLS and Ozzy, he played pretty much as a session player... His IG/ST work was much funkier) and puts some groove in, it'll kick major posterior. Bit of slap kthx. Combined with some coolies new Kirk solos (sounds like he's putting his back into it this time) and more riffs like St Anger, but better, seeing as there's time to put into it (despite its shortcomings, that album was pure great riffage). James can also write lyrics. The stuff from Black Album through S&M was genius in places. Poetry maybe. And Lars can... Uhh... Drum to the best of his abilities :/

But yeh, if that all comes together, it should still be Metallica, but a modern sound. And I would love it.

Okay, I waffled a bit.

I love my lead player. He's been playing 2 years, and he can play all of Ascendancy including solos, as well as any Metallica lead part we've put in front of him so far :)
:smash:

Britton 01-06-2006 04:43 PM

[QUOTE=Joe]Yes, hopefully the entire Ascendancy album.

I know the solos to Creeping Death (nearly) and Fade to Black and can play them up to speed. I know the CotK and RTL solos but not up to speed. I haven't tried Escape, FFwF, or TUI in ages. I know FWTBT, it's easy.

Nice new avatar. I'm working on one here.

300 more to 7,000

edit: I think that quote was from Kirk actually. It was from the Metallica.com new video from the studios.[/QUOTE]

Yea pretty much sense I saw COB a couple of weeks ago I've ben crazy about them. I've been studying Alexi's work and it's made me so much better already.

It's gonna be cool to learn a whole album and be able to sit down and play it all. I'll end up learning all of RTL and MOP someday. I pretty much already know all of KEA I just need to learn the solos

Joe 01-06-2006 04:44 PM

[QUOTE=fatbandit]Ah, for me, Ascendancy isn't that hard on bass, Paolo doesn't do anything immensely hard. I only know Pull Harder and Gunshot though, seeing as my band play them. Good bass tabs are scarce as anything though, and for a lot of songs (not just Trivium, a lot of Metallica stuff and others too), the guitar pro files are piss poor. If the guitar parts are right, it gets 5 stars. The bass parts get overlooked somewhat. Usually close enough to work the rest out though. I've never learnt any album in order though all the way through...

I really should change my avatar. When I changed it back to this, I changed it to the one with the spelling mistake. I have a proper one with correct spelling floating around, I'm just lazy. And yes, 'tis Sephiroth.

What I don't want to see from Metallica is a backwards step. 80's metal again would be cliched, forced and I don't think I'd enjoy it. If Rob plays like he can (from what I've seen in [SIZE="3"][U][B]BLS [/B][/U][/SIZE]and Ozzy, he played pretty much as a session player... His IG/ST work was much funkier) and puts some groove in, it'll kick major posterior. Bit of slap kthx. Combined with some coolies new Kirk solos (sounds like he's putting his back into it this time) and more riffs like St Anger, but better, seeing as there's time to put into it (despite its shortcomings, that album was pure great riffage). James can also write lyrics. The stuff from Black Album through S&M was genius in places. Poetry maybe. And Lars can... Uhh... Drum to the best of his abilities :/

But yeh, if that all comes together, it should still be Metallica, but a modern sound. And I would love it.

Okay, I waffled a bit.

:smash:[/QUOTE]
Wasn't he Suicidal Tendancies? Not Black Label Society?

Paolo's a pretty good bassist, but like you said nothing of his is really difficult. The guitar is incredible though. There are some videos online of them at recording sessions and they're just amazing. I think I've got a link somewhere.

I don't mind Kirk's lyrics [I]too[/I] much. It would be interesting to see how Rob writes. I hope James writes a lot more than he did last time.

fatbandit 01-06-2006 04:47 PM

Yeah, like I said in the post, he's been in BLS, Ozzy, Infectious Grooves and Suicidal Tendencies.

:smash:

Mein bass 01-06-2006 04:48 PM

Ever since I got that live bass solo by Rob i've been a moderate fan of his.
He's got some skills,that's for sure.And he finger pics in metal.I've always respected that.

Britton 01-06-2006 04:50 PM

[QUOTE=Joe]Wasn't he Suicidal Tendancies? Not Black Label Society?

Paolo's a pretty good bassist, but like you said nothing of his is really difficult. The guitar is incredible though. There are some videos online of them at recording sessions and they're just amazing. I think I've got a link somewhere.

I don't mind Kirk's lyrics [I]too[/I] much. It would be interesting to see how Rob writes. I hope James writes a lot more than he did last time.[/QUOTE]

I beleive you are correct on Rob being in ST. could someone send Jungle essence sometime?.

Paulo is a good bassist and he has a awsome singing voice. When I shook his hand He was smiling and making all these weirdfacing towards matt...it was funny. I don't want to see old Metallica either...but I want sorta a retro Metallica.

Could you hook me up with those Links Joe?

Joe 01-06-2006 04:51 PM

[QUOTE=fatbandit]Yeah, like I said in the post, he's been in BLS, Ozzy, Infectious Grooves and Suicidal Tendencies.

:smash:[/QUOTE]

Ah yea, missed that.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/w/metal?v=eqqrwRpIQRc&eurl=[/url]
Trivium, watch it. I have no idea what song it is.

His live bass solos are so cool. I remember the one I saw live so clearly, it was one of the coolest things I had ever seen. Of course it was also the first concert I went to where they had individual solos.

Junglessance? Sure. I've got it, what's your email?

Mein bass 01-06-2006 04:57 PM

Trivium does live bass solos?
Sweet.
BTW I think Metallicas next cd is gonna rock.
Please oh please let there be a track with a bass solo.
They need to let Rob show his chops :)
Im glad there taking it back to the old style as well,but modernizing it.(I think :confused: )

Joe 01-06-2006 04:59 PM

[QUOTE=Mein bass]Trivium does live bass solos?
Sweet.
BTW I think Metallicas next cd is gonna rock.
Please oh please let there be a track with a bass solo.
They need to let Rob show his chops :)
Im glad there taking it back to the old style as well,but modernizing it.(I think :confused: )[/QUOTE]

Oh no no, I haven't seen Trivium. I will be in February with In Flames. I was talking about Trujillo. His solos are awesome.

You mean something like Anesthesia or something like Orion? He's a great bassist, it would be shameful if they didn't show him off.

Britton 01-06-2006 05:02 PM

[QUOTE=Joe]Oh no no, I haven't seen Trivium. I will be in February with In Flames. I was talking about Trujillo. His solos are awesome.

You mean something like Anesthesia or something like Orion? He's a great bassist, it would be shameful if they didn't show him off.[/QUOTE]


Trivium Rocks! None of them did solo's though...they only had a thirty minute set. But when they start headlining they will.

When I saw Tallica Rob was crazy. Well I've gotta bite the dust fellas (band practice)

Did I mention we will be covering Whisky in the Jar?

Later

Father_Jack 01-06-2006 05:03 PM

[QUOTE=Joe][B]His solos are awesome. [/B]

You mean something like Anesthesia or something like Orion? He's a great bassist, it would be shameful if they didn't show him off.[/QUOTE]

123 x alot

As much as Anesthesia is ace, I wouldn't want a track like that, bass solos are good when they fit and sound good. You wouldnt want a track on just a guitar solo, well at least I wouldnt.

They could do an instumental to show off rob and all the band members skills, that will satisfy egos fine.

Joe 01-06-2006 05:05 PM

[QUOTE=Britton]Trivium Rocks! None of them did solo's though...they only had a thirty minute set. But when they start headlining they will.

When I saw Tallica Rob was crazy. Well I've gotta bite the dust fellas (band practice)

Did I mention we will be covering Whisky in the Jar?

Later[/QUOTE]

You forgot to leave your email. Have fun with all that.

Metallica version or Thin Lizzy? I've only heard a bit of Thin Lizzy but I imagine its a little different

NP: Fade to Black - Live Sh*t

[QUOTE]They could do an instumental to show off rob and all the band members skills, that will satisfy egos fine.[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't mind two instrumentals, one could be like TLITD with some lyrics but not much. But yes, they should have an instrumental at least.

Mein bass 01-06-2006 05:05 PM

Well Rob does heavy solos,not that awesome style like Cliff.(But Robs are still the **** \m/)
So a bass solo would sound good in one of there heavy songs imo.

Joe 01-06-2006 05:07 PM

[QUOTE=Mein bass]Well Rob does heavy solos,not that awesome style like Cliff.(But Robs are still the **** \m/)
So a bass solo would sound good in one of there heavy songs imo.[/QUOTE]

I would like cool ones that were talented and sounded good like Orion and the solo intro on My Friend of Misery that Jason did. I wouldn't wanna hear distorted wah or anything like in CotK. I don't like that solo.

Father_Jack 01-06-2006 05:08 PM

[QUOTE=Joe]
Metallica version or Thin Lizzy? I've only heard a bit of Thin Lizzy but I imagine its a little different
[/QUOTE]

The lizzy version is all clean, even the solo. And the arrangement is different. After the first verse it goes straight into the chorus rather than the lead riff thing.

It also has an ace little solo start that metallica shouldnt have left out :angry:

EDIT: On another note, I'm going to see a Thin Lizzy tribute band, I hope they play WITJ.

Joe 01-06-2006 05:10 PM

Ah. I assume Britton's band would be doing the Metallica one then.

Apparently there's this Metallica cover band from around here that's amazing. I haven't heard them but some of my friends have and say they're good.

NP: Still Fade to Black. I love this song!!

Father_Jack 01-06-2006 05:12 PM

[QUOTE=Joe]Ah. I assume Britton's band would be doing the Metallica one then.

Apparently there's this Metallica cover band from around here that's amazing. I haven't heard them but some of my friends have and say they're good.

NP: Still Fade to Black. I love this song!![/QUOTE]

Yeah, It would be pretty unlikely to do the Thin Lizzy one seen as hardly anyone knows it.

I wouldnt mind seeing a metallica cover band, as long as they didnt suck of course.

N.P. Paradox City (local band) - Restless

blue3 01-06-2006 05:18 PM

[QUOTE=Father_Jack]The lizzy version is all clean, even the solo. And the arrangement is different. After the first verse it goes straight into the chorus rather than the lead riff thing.

It also has an ace little solo start that metallica shouldnt have left out :angry:

EDIT: On another note, I'm going to see a Thin Lizzy tribute band, I hope they play WITJ.[/QUOTE]Awesome.. hopefully they're good. I saw Thin Lizzy live last year. I don't think they played WITJ.

Father_Jack 01-06-2006 05:31 PM

[QUOTE=blue3]Awesome.. hopefully they're good. I saw Thin Lizzy live last year. I don't think they played WITJ.[/QUOTE]

I would have loved to see Thin Lizzy live, especially seen as their live CD rocks hard.

Anyway, back to metallica...

Aw3someman 01-06-2006 05:40 PM

hmm... recent barrage of retards making random metallica threads.


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