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clown_phobia 06-04-2005 08:22 PM

good vibrations is pretty psychadelic

Krabsworth 06-04-2005 08:24 PM

[QUOTE=Schyma]Deep Purple bores me to the point of sleep. (Not really but I really don't see what's so great about them)
[/QUOTE]

yeah same here, i find them amazingly boring- its just drony little guitar riffs

clown_phobia 06-04-2005 08:25 PM

All i've heard is smoke on the water so I can't judge

Walrus Gumboot 06-04-2005 08:33 PM

I struck gold in my garage last night:

[B]The Band[/B] -
-Jericho
-The Best of
-To Kingdom Come
[B]Bob Dylan and the Band[/B]-
-Nashville Skyline
-Oh Mercy
-Biograph (Disc 3)
-Time Out Of Mind
-Under the Red Sky
-Bootled series II and III
-New Morning
[B]Bob Marley[/B]- Catch a Fire
[B]CSNY-[/B] American Dreams
[B]Grateful Dead-[/B]
-Built to Last
-Dozin' at the Knick
-Mars Hotel
[B]Phish-[/B]
-Rift
-A Picture of Nectar
[B]Pink Floyd-[/B]
-Pulse
-A Momentary Lapse of Reason
[B]Neil Young-[/B]
-s/t
-Old Ways
-Are You Passionate?
[B]Neil Young and Crazy Horse-[/B]
-Arc
-Weld
-Sleeps with Angels
[B]The Who-[/B] Who Are You


all CDs :D

clown_phobia 06-04-2005 08:34 PM

Did you just find them in a box or something? Did you know they were there?
Who put them there? Who's are they?

lunch998 06-04-2005 08:37 PM

Oh yea? Well I just got Live Cream Volume I and Blow By Blow!

/ :upset:

By the way, the Live Cream album's are great. I've seen some reviews that made me think they were very subpar, but that isn't the case at all.

Walrus Gumboot 06-04-2005 08:38 PM

[QUOTE=clown_phobia]Did you just find them in a box or something? Did you know they were there?
Who put them there? Who's are they?[/QUOTE]

1) 3 boxes
2) I had gone through them before, years ago before I understood their greatness
3/4) My Dad's

He takes really bad care of them, I had to dig though piles of dust and random jewel case parts and burnt CDs

clown_phobia 06-04-2005 08:41 PM

My favourite Cream song is "white room"

BassMasterMike88 06-04-2005 08:45 PM

I'm probably gonna get flamed to death for saying this, but i prefer Dereck and the Dominos over Cream.

/awaits flaming

clown_phobia 06-04-2005 08:46 PM

Layla rules, bell bottom blues rules :thumb:

lunch998 06-04-2005 08:47 PM

[QUOTE=BassMasterMike88]I'm probably gonna get flamed to death for saying this, but i prefer Dereck and the Dominos over Cream.

/awaits flaming[/QUOTE]

I'm not going to flame you, but that sounds like a personal problem to me.

/joking.

Cream>All other Clapton projects for me.

BlackDeathMetalJazz or really ANYTHING else please- 06-04-2005 08:55 PM

[QUOTE]I'm probably gonna get flamed to death for saying this, but i prefer Dereck and the Dominos over Cream.

/awaits flaming[/QUOTE]Oh yea well Eric Clapton is one of the most overrated figures in Classic Rock. (IMO)

/awaits flaming

Walrus Gumboot 06-04-2005 09:05 PM

[QUOTE=Schyma]Oh yea well Eric Clapton is one of the most overrated figures in Classic Rock. (IMO)

/awaits flaming[/QUOTE]

Under/over rating arguments are impossible to prove

RobNY 06-04-2005 09:16 PM

[QUOTE=BassMasterMike88]I'm probably gonna get flamed to death for saying this, but i prefer Dereck and the Dominos over Cream.

/awaits flaming[/QUOTE]
Well, I'm pretty even with the two of them. Although Layla is probably my favorite album.

Besides Layla and Bell Bottom Blues, which clown_phobia mentioned, honorable mentions must go to Have You Ever Loved a Woman?, Why Does Love Got to Be So Sad? (I always promote this song, one of my absolute favorites), Anyday, Thorn Tree in the Garden and... er... Nobody Knows you When you're down and out (for that amazing guitar work).

I just love that album. But, most people won't like Derek and the Dominos more because, well, as short-lived as Cream was, it was even more so with Derek and the Dominos. I think everyone here will agree that Duane Allman's death was a tragedy. And a shame too.

I put them about even, but I wouldn't begrudge anyone who put them in a close second. They're different though, and hard to compare. From an outside viewpoint, Cream is probably better. I say why fight over it, and just listen to it all anyway. Heh.

And my favorite Cream song is probably Tales.

BlackDeathMetalJazz or really ANYTHING else please- 06-04-2005 09:18 PM

Meh he's overrated in my opinion. None of his side projects were that good I mean sure a couple of songs I like here and there but nothing that outstanding. His guitar playing isn't as good as you would think either. I don't have a clue why some of the users here give him the title "god" it's outragious.

Walrus Gumboot 06-04-2005 09:26 PM

[QUOTE=Schyma]Meh he's overrated in my opinion. None of his side projects were that good I mean sure a couple of songs I like here and there but nothing that outstanding. His guitar playing isn't as good as you would think either. I don't have a clue why some of the users here give him the title "god" it's outragious.[/QUOTE]


It is really easy to say someone who is called god is overrated :lol:

I would have to agree with RobNY and say my favorite of all Clapmandom is Tales of Brave Ulysses

lunch998 06-04-2005 09:30 PM

Tales of Brave Ulysses>Almost all other songs. Besides, it's just easy and cool to say Clapton is God. It just seems right.

BlackDeathMetalJazz or really ANYTHING else please- 06-04-2005 09:46 PM

[QUOTE=lunch998]Tales of Brave Ulysses>Almost all other songs. Besides, it's just easy and cool to say Clapton is God. It just seems right.[/QUOTE]
I used to like "Tales of Brave Ulysses" but then I thought about how cheesy the lyrics were and stoped listining to it all together. :-/

clown_phobia 06-04-2005 09:47 PM

Clapton is a good guitarist, but I think Gilmour is better...

and if anyone is god it is the beatles!

RobNY 06-04-2005 09:50 PM

[QUOTE=Schyma]I used to like "Tales of Brave Ulysses" but then I thought about how cheesy the lyrics were and stoped listining to it all together. :-/[/QUOTE]
Those lyrics are on the better side of rock lyrics. For good or for bad. I like the alliteration, personally. I actually like the lyrics, though.

Although we probably have divergent ideas of good lyrics. What's your favorite lyrics? (And guys, let's try not to make this a "post your favorite lyrics thread." Just say the name of the song. :))

lunch998 06-04-2005 09:51 PM

[QUOTE=Schyma]I used to like "Tales of Brave Ulysses" but then I thought about how cheesy the lyrics were and stoped listining to it all together. :-/[/QUOTE]

If those lyrics are cheesy then it seems a lot of psychedelic lyrics are cheesy. I think they're cool.

BlackDeathMetalJazz or really ANYTHING else please- 06-04-2005 10:00 PM

The Gnome - Pink Floyd (Syd Barrett)

I want to tell you a story
About a little man
If I can.
A gnome named Grimble Grumble.
And little gnomes stay in their homes.
Eating, sleeping, drinking their wine.
He wore a scarlet tunic,
A blue green hood,
It looked quite good.
He had a big adventure
Amidst the grass
Fresh air at last.
Wining, dining, biding his time.
And then one day - hooray!
Another way for gnomes to say
Hoooooooooray.
Look at the sky, look at the river
Isn't it good?
Look at the sky, look at the river
Isn't it good?
Winding, finding places to go.
And then one day - hooray!
Another way for gnomes to say
Hoooooooooray.
Hooooooooooooooray.

lunch998 06-04-2005 10:03 PM

Oh yea, that's genious. :rolleyes:

I just don't see how Tales of Brave Ulysses can be cheesy but Bike is not.

And hey, I never dared to call Bob Dylan's lyrics cheesy. I love his songwriting.

BlackDeathMetalJazz or really ANYTHING else please- 06-04-2005 10:04 PM

It's All Right Ma - Bob Dylan

Darkness at the break of noon
Shadows even the silver spoon
The handmade blade, the child's balloon
Eclipses both the sun and moon
To understand you know too soon
There is no sense in trying.

Pointed threats, they bluff with scorn
Suicide remarks are torn
From the fools gold mouthpiece
The hollow horn plays wasted words
Proved to warn
That he not busy being born
Is busy dying.

Temptation's page flies out the door
You follow, find yourself at war
Watch waterfalls of pity roar
You feel to moan but unlike before
You discover
That you'd just be
One more person crying.

So don't fear if you hear
A foreign sound to you ear
It's alright, Ma, I'm only sighing.

As some warn victory, some downfall
Private reasons great or small
Can be seen in the eyes of those that call
To make all that should be killed to crawl
While others say don't hate nothing at all
Except hatred.

Disillusioned words like bullets bark
As human gods aim for their marks
Made everything from toy guns that sparks
To flesh-colored Christs that glow in the dark
It's easy to see without looking too far
That not much
Is really sacred.

While preachers preach of evil fates
Teachers teach that knowledge waits
Can lead to hundred-dollar plates
Goodness hides behind its gates
But even the President of the United States
Sometimes must have
To stand naked.

An' though the rules of the road have been lodged
It's only people's games that you got to dodge
And it's alright, Ma, I can make it.

Advertising signs that con you
Into thinking you're the one
That can do what's never been done
That can win what's never been won
Meantime life outside goes on
All around you.

You loose yourself, you reappear
You suddenly find you got nothing to fear
Alone you stand without nobody near
When a trembling distant voice, unclear
Startles your sleeping ears to hear
That somebody thinks
They really found you.

A question in your nerves is lit
Yet you know there is no answer fit to satisfy
Insure you not to quit
To keep it in your mind and not forget
That it is not he or she or them or it
That you belong to.

Although the masters make the rules
For the wise men and the fools
I got nothing, Ma, to live up to.

For them that must obey authority
That they do not respect in any degree
Who despite their jobs, their destinies
Speak jealously of them that are free
Cultivate their flowers to be
Nothing more than something
They invest in.

While some on principles baptized
To strict party platforms ties
Social clubs in drag disguise
Outsiders they can freely criticize
Tell nothing except who to idolize
And then say God Bless him.

While one who sings with his tongue on fire
Gargles in the rat race choir
Bent out of shape from society's pliers
Cares not to come up any higher
But rather get you down in the hole
That he's in.

But I mean no harm nor put fault
On anyone that lives in a vault
But it's alright, Ma, if I can't please him.

Old lady judges, watch people in pairs
Limited in sex, they dare
To push fake morals, insult and stare
While money doesn't talk, it swears
Obscenity, who really cares
Propaganda, all is phony.

While them that defend what they cannot see
With a killer's pride, security
It blows the minds most bitterly
For them that think death's honesty
Won't fall upon them naturally
Life sometimes
Must get lonely.

My eyes collide head-on with stuffed graveyards
False gods, I scuff
At pettiness which plays so rough
Walk upside-down inside handcuffs
Kick my legs to crash it off
Say okay, I have had enough
What else can you show me ?

And if my thought-dreams could been seen
They'd probably put my head in a guillotine
But it's alright, Ma, it's life, and life only.

BlackDeathMetalJazz or really ANYTHING else please- 06-04-2005 10:08 PM

[QUOTE=lunch998]Oh yea, that's genious. :rolleyes:

I just don't see how Tales of Brave Ulysses can be cheesy but Bike is not.[/QUOTE]
Someone is itching for a fight. :rolleyes: I think those lyrics tell a story about going shrooming. They're simple yet effective and they relate to me. What does "Bike" have anything to do with "Tales of Brave Ulysses" anyway?

lunch998 06-04-2005 10:10 PM

[QUOTE=Schyma]Someone is itching for a fight. :rolleyes: I think those lyrics tell a story about going shrooming. They're simple yet effective and they relate to me. What does "Bike" have anything to do with "Tales of Brave Ulysses" anyway?[/QUOTE]

Well I know you love Syd Barrett, so I'm just comparing two psychedelic songs here. No I'm not itching for a fight, because this isn't a big deal, just a discussion. I just don't see how ToBU is any more cheesy than a Gnome and skies/rivers or a mouse named Gerald, etc.

Obviously I'm very biased in favor of Cream, so maybe I'm missing something.

BlackDeathMetalJazz or really ANYTHING else please- 06-04-2005 10:14 PM

The Gnome and Bike are playful and funny. ToBU on the other hand is on a more serious tone and talking about absurd stories I read in English.

RockAndRoll 06-04-2005 10:15 PM

Got robert plants new album for my birthday today. I've only listened to it once (while talking) but it sounded really good.

RobNY 06-04-2005 10:16 PM

It just seems like a very personal style type thing, and I expected that to be it.

I won't dispute that Dylan is a great songwriter, though. :)

lunch998 06-04-2005 10:16 PM

[QUOTE=Schyma]The Gnome and Bike are playful and funny. ToBU on the other hand is on a more serious tone and talking about absurd stories I read in English.[/QUOTE]

Absurd stories = classic mythology that has stood a test of 3,000+ years.

RockAndRoll 06-04-2005 10:16 PM

[QUOTE=clown_phobia]Clapton is a good guitarist, but I think Gilmour is better...
[/QUOTE]
Technically or musically?

LedZeppelin173 06-04-2005 10:18 PM

i think clapton is better IMO

BlackDeathMetalJazz or really ANYTHING else please- 06-04-2005 10:21 PM

[QUOTE=lunch998]Absurd stories = classic mythology that has stood a test of 3,000+ years.[/QUOTE]
Have you ever seen [I]Troy[/I]? All of those Greek mythology stories are absurd (stupid actully) I'm sure you've read that one where the king eats all his sons and daughters. Right?

BlackDeathMetalJazz or really ANYTHING else please- 06-04-2005 10:24 PM

[QUOTE=RobNY]It just seems like a very personal style type thing, and I expected that to be it.

I won't dispute that Dylan is a great songwriter, though. :)[/QUOTE]
I don't think anyone will either. That song is lyricly the best song I've ever heard.

lunch998 06-04-2005 10:24 PM

[QUOTE=Schyma]Have you ever seen [I]Troy[/I]? All of those Greek mythology stories are absurd (stupid actully) I'm sure you've read that one where the king eats all his sons and daughters. Right?[/QUOTE]

Oh yea, because Troy was [I]perfect[/I] document of Greek Mythology. Sure it's easy to say it's absurd now that we know factually that there is no Minotaur or Medusa, and we no longer believe in Zeus and Mt. Olympus (in general people don't) but for 3,000 years ago those stories were an amazing accomplishment. People were attempting to explain things and teach morals, as well as tell entertaining stories. And the stories are still widely enjoyed today, such as the Odyssey, which is where ToBU gets it roots.

BlackDeathMetalJazz or really ANYTHING else please- 06-04-2005 10:29 PM

[QUOTE=lunch998]Oh yea, because Troy was [I]perfect[/I] document of Greek Mythology. Sure it's easy to say it's absurd now that we know factually that there is no Minatour or Medusa, and we no longer believe in Zeus and Mt. Olympus (in general people don't) but for 3,000 years ago those stories were an amazing accomplishment. And the stories are still enjoyable today, such as the Odessy, which is where ToBU gets it roots.[/QUOTE]
I really have no problem with Greek mythology I agree they are rather enjoyable to read but to put into a rock song is just cheesy. (IMO)

lunch998 06-04-2005 10:31 PM

Fair enough, I can understand that. I'm just saying that calling Greek Mythology absurd is a big of a stretch, even if you don't care for the stories it's hard to deny their impact on litarature in the world as we know it, and the fact that they are still valued today in our society.

lunch998 06-04-2005 10:45 PM

How come the Alt&Ind YSI thread owns ours so hard? I just got the Soft Parade Volumes I and II, Presidents of the USA s/t, Bitches Brew, and Madclap laughs in about 20 minutes.

clown_phobia 06-05-2005 01:09 AM

[QUOTE=RockAndRoll]Technically or musically?[/QUOTE]

I think clapton can play the blues pretty well, but pink floyd are just so much more enjoyable to listen to IMO.

Just listen to "comfortably numb" :thumb:

Badmoon 06-05-2005 01:10 AM

[QUOTE=lunch998]How come the Alt&Ind YSI thread owns ours so hard? I just got the Soft Parade Volumes I and II, Presidents of the USA s/t, Bitches Brew, and Madclap laughs in about 20 minutes.[/QUOTE]

Yea, just today I got...

Lou Reed - Transformer
The Pixies - Surfer Rosa
Kraftwerk - Autobahn

:D


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