[QUOTE=Apocalypticon;15859618]I reject your reality and substitute my own[/QUOTE]

thats cool, but I prefer to go with supported ideas.

you haven't addressed what i actually said at all you've merely addressed what you think i said which is incorrect.

it's too bad you think i'm incorrect, for your sake.

well thats a stupid ****ing irrelevant point to make in an attempt to seem smart

Wow seriously I should have just not said anything. :lol:

[QUOTE=i am the robots;15859628]well thats a stupid ****ing irrelevant point to make in an attempt to seem smart[/QUOTE]

Sorry but he was adhering to an objective argument.

[QUOTE=guitrguy;15859622]thats cool, but I prefer to go with supported ideas.[/QUOTE]

yeah supported ideas are good but I've read some of Thomas Szasz's stuff on the subject and its pretty interesting and somewhat convincing

[QUOTE=guitrguy;15859643]Sorry but he was adhering to an objective argument.[/QUOTE]

sorry im a little tipsy and in a really bad mood atm

[QUOTE=Apocalypticon;15859645]yeah supported ideas are good but I've read some of Thomas Szasz's stuff on the subject and its pretty interesting and somewhat convincing[/QUOTE]

Is there much on wiki about his philosophy?

[QUOTE=i am the robots;15859648]sorry im a little tipsy and in a really bad mood atm[/QUOTE]

omg rly

[QUOTE=i am the robots;15859628]well thats a stupid ****ing irrelevant point to make in an attempt to seem smart[/QUOTE]
i don't have to attempt to seem smart, i know i'm smart.

also it's really not, people treat these problems like diseases and try to solve them with medicine which is the improper approach to those sorts of problems. your case is a perfect example of that in fact.

only one of my family members is medicated other than me

and shes a total bitch when shes not on medication

maybe i just put too much trust in medication for said disorder because i havent seen my one older brother in four ****ing years, and maybe if we got him on something he wouldntve turned out the way he is now

[url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=gXCW2DOV17k[/url]

lets all lol at this local band.

I'm bipolar and im supposed to take something for it but I dont really care usually.

that band rules.

edit: **** I wanna be that guy

[QUOTE=guitrguy;15859651]Is there much on wiki about his philosophy?[/QUOTE]

not really

the article on anti-psychiatry gives a basic description of the subject but also contains some bullsh[I]i[/I]t

I have some book that gives a good outline of the subject and references a whole bunch of authors and studies etc. The main reason I got interested in it was it compared mental illness to LSD trips, which seems really weird. But it had some really interesting stuff about the whole set and setting theory.

You've seen Roman Gabriel Todd's Beast Rising Out of the Sea?

[QUOTE=i am the robots;15859672]only one of my family members is medicated other than me

and shes a total bitch when shes not on medication

maybe i just put too much trust in medication for said disorder because i havent seen my one older brother in four ****ing years, and maybe if we got him on something he wouldntve turned out the way he is now[/QUOTE]
but that was part of my original point. just because you can medicate normalcy doesn't mean you should. just because medicine solves an issue doesn't make that issue a disease.

if society had helped your parents raise you in a less bipolar environment, you wouldn't be as bipolar. if you ate healthier foods and fewer chemicals you'd be less bipolar. the problem with medicalizing mental disorders is that you fail to address any other factors which could solve the problem effectively without medication.

[QUOTE=guitrguy;15859677][url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=gXCW2DOV17k[/url]

lets all lol at this local band.[/QUOTE]

omg the vocalist is like 50. :lol:

my moms all about organic health foods and wholeistic methods to healing, we didnt have a bottle of tylenol in our house until i was like 15

she made us use organic toothpaste even

[QUOTE=guitrguy;15859693]You've seen Roman Gabriel Todd's Beast Rising Out of the Sea?[/QUOTE]

I watched a mintue of it and it ruled.

it rules even more now.

[QUOTE=Apocalypticon;15859688]not really

the article on anti-psychiatry gives a basic description of the subject but also contains some bullsh[I]i[/I]t

I have some book that gives a good outline of the subject and references a whole bunch of authors and studies etc. The main reason I got interested in it was it compared mental illness to LSD trips, which seems really weird. But it had some really interesting stuff about the whole set and setting theory.[/QUOTE]
hmmm... i'll keep an eye out for him the next time i'm at a B&N
[QUOTE=Luc214;15859698]omg the vocalist is like 50. :lol:[/QUOTE]

Haha, dudes hes in his 70's, but he awesome as ****. He smokes bud too.

[QUOTE=i am the robots;15859700]my moms all about organic health foods and wholeistic methods to healing, we didnt have a bottle of tylenol in our house until i was like 15

she made us use organic toothpaste even[/QUOTE]
so you only ever eat organic foods period?

cleansing chemicals from your body can take a month so even a once a month slip is enough if you're sensitive to chemicals.

I need more material.

[QUOTE=Iluvatar;15859722]I need more material.[/QUOTE]

[url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=gmXjVRxw5Mo&feature=related[/url]

how far south in florida do you live? They play in mobile all the time.

[QUOTE=Permanent Solution;15859720]so you only ever eat organic foods period?[/quote]
pretty dominantly

oh i might also mention that four of my siblings are/were drug addicts

that might have to do with it now that i think of it

my oldest sisters been clean for like 15 years and shes been completely stable since

I live in West Palm so it isn't too bad. I watched all the Youtube related vids pretty much through, they arent as cool without Uncle Joe.

I really wouldn't mind seeing them though.

drugs play a large part in mental stability.

drugs being an all inclusive one to include illegal ones, prescription, otc, alcohol, etc. All of those play a big role in how your mind works.

edit: anyways, going to vegas, peace kiddos

[QUOTE=Iluvatar;15859738]I live in West Palm so it isn't too bad. I watched all the Youtube related vids pretty much through, they arent as cool without Uncle Joe.

I really wouldn't mind seeing them though.[/QUOTE]

The vids don't em justice, plus their shows are really fun.


Vince I turned adult 14 days ago!

how about my two oldest sisters used to do a lot of coke, and my brother who i never see used to do mushrooms all the time and my brother whos two years older than me is currently going through oxycotin withdrawal?

[QUOTE=Permanent Solution;15859741]drugs play a large part in mental stability.

drugs being an all inclusive one to include illegal ones, prescription, otc, alcohol, etc. All of those play a big role in how your mind works.

edit: anyways, going to vegas, peace kiddos[/QUOTE]
when you get back or tomorrow, do you mind explaining to me your views on natural brain chemistry?

[QUOTE=i am the robots;15859737]oh i might also mention that four of my siblings are/were drug addicts[/QUOTE]

aren't you as well :p

i smoke pot

that's still a drug :p

[QUOTE=Luc214;15859787]that's still a drug :p[/QUOTE]

its not addictive

I quit pot kind of easily. Haven't smoked in two weeks or so and don't feel the need at all.

and after you got that baller blong
[QUOTE=Sideshow Bob;15859794]I predict he will say he can quit when he wants to.[/QUOTE]

i actually lasted four days and went back to smoking

I remember when I quit smokign the only reason it worked is because I had 4 ap classes and i had no time.

school is the best anti drug :)

[QUOTE=Nostalgia;15859800]I quit pot kind of easily. Haven't smoked in two weeks or so and don't feel the need at all.[/QUOTE]

I quit alcohol and weed after New Year's Eve

I still do other drugs though

[QUOTE=Iluvatar;15859802]I remember when I quit smokign the only reason it worked is because I had 4 ap classes and i had no time.

school is the best anti drug :)[/QUOTE]

i ran out of weed yesterday and i didnt buy more today

im gonna try again since all my friends went back to school :)

[QUOTE]and after you got that baller blong[/QUOTE]

Yeah man. I ended up selling it for 40 though (bought it for 50).

whyd you quit?