[QUOTE=Freebyrd]Will someone please tell me the sound characterisics of a wuhan traditional ride, and the differences between the medium and medium-heavy one?[/QUOTE]

the medium will have more wash to it and the heavier one will have more ping to it.

Thanks! Do you know what a Wuhan ride sounds like in general?

Ok, looking for a splash. 8" or 10". Just an overall good splash, any price range. But cheap+good quality=perfect!:thumb:

Wuhan - cheap, very bright and trashy.

Zildjian A - Great overall splash veristile splash with body
Zildjian A custom - Transparent qualities, would be good as a smaller one for the double splash effect(hit one after another 16th notes, small then big)
Zildjian K - Dry and musical(for lack of a better word) they really sing
Zildjian K custom - Never heard them played but like all other K customs I can say that they're great
Zildjian Oriental - Very loud and raw, heavy too

Sabian HHX - Great cymbals, might be the best on the market, hard to find though
Sabian paragon - Haven't seen these talked about too much recently... Great splash, very distinct, if you listen it sounds transparent but it still has body, hard to describe
Sabian AAX or AA(Played it at sam ash can't remember which it was) - Papery sounding with good attack and decay. Horrible tone

Paiste Sig - Great great great. Overpriced

Istanbul, Bosphorus(may be the best) go to [url]www.cymbalsonly.com[/url] and check them out for yourself!

hey im looking for a zildjian crash 16". Just cracked my other one :angry: so looking for another. The most i want to spend is around 80$ thanks

u have no hope of buying a good zildjian cymbal under 80 bucks, srry. buy a paiste PST5 instead, that should be under 80 bucks, or near to it. if u look on ebay u MAY be able to find something, but don't settle for anything with planet Z, ZBT,ZXT,ZXT titanium or Z custom in the name of the cymbal, because the PST5 will blow them all away

[QUOTE=lilphilw]hey im looking for a zildjian crash 16". Just cracked my other one :angry: so looking for another. The most i want to spend is around 80$ thanks[/QUOTE]
Go with ebay, low level cymbals aren't worth it. Maybe save up and buy a good new one. I don't see why the most you want to spend is 80 if your serious about drumming.

The thing is i have like 60 now and i dont have a job which doesnt help. My crash is pretty dented up and pretty much need one as soon as possible.

[QUOTE=lilphilw]The thing is i have like 60 now and i dont have a job which doesnt help. My crash is pretty dented up and pretty much need one as soon as possible.[/QUOTE]
Get a wuhan, don't know why you only want zildjian, not like your endorsed by them. If you were they'd be free. Wuhans are great cymbals and they're affordable.

ok thanks a lot. I only want a zildjian crash because the rest of my set is zildjan.

[QUOTE=lilphilw]ok thanks a lot. I only want a zildjian crash because the rest of my set is zildjan.[/QUOTE]

youll grow out of it. lawl. then get back into it.

[QUOTE=lilphilw]ok thanks a lot. I only want a zildjian crash because the rest of my set is zildjan.[/QUOTE]


brand whoring will only limit the sounds u can get out of ur set. i.e, say u like the Paiste Flanger Bell, but ur a zildjian brand whore, so u don't buy the bell, and u miss out. i would definatly go for the PST5

Ah Mega cup chimes are awesome.

Now for my turn.

Paiste Rude 17" Thin crash(£109) Vs. Zildjian 20" Oriental Crash.

Either way both of these cymbals will end up on my setup. Which first?

Im thinkin the Rude as i dont need the FX crash just yet. I could do with beefing up my main crashes.

yea, if u don't need FX imediatly i would go for the rude, even though the 20'' crash of doom would be nice to have

Personally Phil, I'd just hit that Crash of Doom, but that's the way my taste is running right now, so don't ask me. :lol:

EDIT: Going by the Zildjian site, it doesn't even sound that trashy.

Alright, i got some money, i'm wondering if i should get either A: a new (probably A/A Custom) crash. or a B: Wuhan splash pack or splash/china pack im not sure if i should get effects, but i dont see the problem really. what do you guys think?

[QUOTE=Drum Phil]Ah Mega cup chimes are awesome.

Now for my turn.

Paiste Rude 17" Thin crash(£109) Vs. Zildjian 20" Oriental Crash.

Either way both of these cymbals will end up on my setup. Which first?

Im thinkin the Rude as i dont need the FX crash just yet. I could do with beefing up my main crashes.[/QUOTE]
Well I remember seeing your set and seeing a couple of low level cymbals, I suggest replacing them with the crashes you get. Ge tthe Oriental crash, it can never do you wrong.

i would would like to get a chine preferable 18" to 20" with a pure roar and powerfull sound

ok i need some help on this one. I need a ride cymbal and I need something good for live setting in miced and unmiced settings. Progressive/experimental band. Im thinking of getting something thats medium or medium heavy. nothing really above that medium heavy range. Im thinkin the AA raw bell dry ride. Would that be good in a miced and unmiced situation as well? Its medium heavy in weight. Im open to other suggestions too. Preferrably Sabian because they are the cheapest here but will also look into zildjian too. Not paiste...too bloody damn expensive here. ITs a scam i tell ya.

[quote=steve_o_69]i would would like to get a chine preferable 18" to 20" with a pure roar and powerfull sound[/quote]

Ufip Tigar china

Wuhan or Stagg china :)

I reckon ima go rude baby :cool:

[QUOTE=Tim]ok i need some help on this one. I need a ride cymbal and I need something good for live setting in miced and unmiced settings. Progressive/experimental band. Im thinking of getting something thats medium or medium heavy. nothing really above that medium heavy range. Im thinkin the AA raw bell dry ride. Would that be good in a miced and unmiced situation as well? Its medium heavy in weight. Im open to other suggestions too. Preferrably Sabian because they are the cheapest here but will also look into zildjian too. Not paiste...too bloody damn expensive here. ITs a scam i tell ya.[/QUOTE]

Stage Ride!!!!!

That AA Raw bell dry ride would be better though if you want more ping.

[QUOTE=straycat101]Alright, i got some money, i'm wondering if i should get either A: a new (probably A/A Custom) crash. or a B: Wuhan splash pack or splash/china pack im not sure if i should get effects, but i dont see the problem really. what do you guys think?[/QUOTE]


well i depends, if u have no crash, then i would suggest getting one, or if u have a low end crash, maybe replace it. if u have 1 or 2 good crashes, and feel that is enough, i would go with the effects, because effects are nice. but in my eyes, one should make sure they have good ride/hats/crash before looking into effects

[QUOTE=Drum Phil]I reckon ima go rude baby :cool:[/QUOTE]

You dissapoint me, 17 Rude Crash as apposed to 20 Oriental Crash......;(

i think he said he's gonna end up with both

Tight.alrght I see it now, at the top; of the page, thanks Hellmo

[QUOTE=HeLLmO]well i depends, if u have no crash, then i would suggest getting one, or if u have a low end crash, maybe replace it. if u have 1 or 2 good crashes, and feel that is enough, i would go with the effects, because effects are nice. but in my eyes, one should make sure they have good ride/hats/crash before looking into effects[/QUOTE]


well i have a nice ride, a nice crash and a lowend crash/hi-hat. but hats are too expensive for me right now

[quote=We_Love_Lime]You dissapoint me, 17 Rude Crash as apposed to 20 Oriental Crash......;([/quote]

It makes sense to get the cheaper one first

[QUOTE=Tim]ok i need some help on this one. I need a ride cymbal and I need something good for live setting in miced and unmiced settings. Progressive/experimental band. Im thinking of getting something thats medium or medium heavy. nothing really above that medium heavy range. Im thinkin the AA raw bell dry ride. Would that be good in a miced and unmiced situation as well? Its medium heavy in weight. Im open to other suggestions too. Preferrably Sabian because they are the cheapest here but will also look into zildjian too. Not paiste...too bloody damn expensive here. ITs a scam i tell ya.[/QUOTE]

21" AA Dry Ride

It's an awesome ride.

hmm

i might be able to get some old 13" new beats off my drum teacher.

anyone got any idea what theyd sound like

asking cos if the "old" maybe affecting the sound

[QUOTE=Corkofski]hmm

i might be able to get some old 13" new beats off my drum teacher.

anyone got any idea what theyd sound like

asking cos if the "old" maybe affecting the sound[/QUOTE]

old cymbals sound great. as do most cymbals with age. any idea how old they are?

[QUOTE=Corkofski]hmm

i might be able to get some old 13" new beats off my drum teacher.

anyone got any idea what theyd sound like

asking cos if the "old" maybe affecting the sound[/QUOTE]

*jizzes*

okay, now thats over with

If its older, its better. If its New Beats, its the best.

So you got something thats better then best! Then again, they're only 13" :(

no idea on the age

i havent heard them yet, but i absolutely love the sound of these 15" 70s vintage zildjians (no idea on series) that i play on at my percussion ensemble

i really want them, but they are owned by the east sussex music service, which is owned by the council, and if youve ever tried getting anything off the council...

[QUOTE]Will someone please tell me the sound characterisics of a wuhan traditional ride[/QUOTE]
It's been a week and nobody's answered my question. Do you guys hate me or something?

[QUOTE=Drum Phil]It makes sense to get the cheaper one first[/QUOTE]

I guess.. I wouldn't know.

[QUOTE=Freebyrd]It's been a week and nobody's answered my question. Do you guys hate me or something?[/QUOTE]

If nobody has answered then nobody knows the answer to your question. If it's hand hammered it's probably going to be dark. Thats all I know. You should probably go try it out yourself.

do some research if it matters that much.

[QUOTE=Corkofski]hmm

i might be able to get some old 13" new beats off my drum teacher.

anyone got any idea what theyd sound like

asking cos if the "old" maybe affecting the sound[/QUOTE]

Tight, atriculate chick. Wash will be a bit higher pitched than a 14" model but you'll still be able to get some very nice sounds outta them, they just may not be suited to grunge-styled music as well a larger hat would be. I kinda wish I got them instead of the 14's.

Older the cymbal = better the sound, so dont worry about it affecting them in any negitive way (provided they arent cracked, keyholed etc...)

[QUOTE]If nobody has answered then nobody knows the answer to your question.[/QUOTE]
Well it just seems like some people would know... There are so many Wuhan recomendations on this forum.