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jamesclelland 01-25-2005 07:42 PM

3 and 5 might be linked, but i don't think so, i hear two different messages in them, but your theory on Die Eir Von Satan could possibly be the best i've heard yet.

I think there is more of link in eulogy and H than H and 46 & 2. I could go into detail, but i'm too lazy. if you really want to know i'll type it, but as of now, no way, to tired.

jensmatty 01-25-2005 07:59 PM

lol yea, Im not sure bout the H./Forty Six & 2 thing... but there might be some kind of lyrical link somewhere...

Sleeper 01-25-2005 08:01 PM

[QUOTE=jamesclelland]i cant afford what he was using, but i just pick right against the bridge. sounds ok.
what i do need is a whammy bar, i really want to get the intro to prison sex down.[/QUOTE]
Thats a cool idea

9 sides 01-25-2005 08:25 PM

I dont have time to give my complete thoughts on the subject but I doubt very much that H and 46 & 2 are linked (not deliberately, at least). There is some continuity with snake imagery, metamorphosis, etc. but I'd chalk it up to coincidence rather than a deliberate connection.

Your "theory" on Die Eier von Satan is not really much of a theory I'd encourage you to think about more and then give your thoughts. The idea that "not everything appears as it is" could be applied to just about any Tool song.

jensmatty 01-25-2005 08:27 PM

[QUOTE]Your "theory" on Die Eier von Satan is not really much of a theory[/QUOTE]
I never said it was a theory, I said it was a thought. and a small one at that.

Street Spirit (Fade Out) 01-25-2005 08:32 PM

Anyone know why in the APC videos in eMOTION they don't show maynards face?

9 sides 01-25-2005 08:41 PM

My mistake, I apologize.

jensmatty 01-25-2005 11:41 PM

[QUOTE]My mistake, I apologize.[/QUOTE]
Thats fine it was a fair call.

[QUOTE]Anyone know why in the APC videos in eMOTION they don't show maynards face?[/QUOTE]
I dont think he likes appearing in video clips, He's only ever been shown properly in one I think. Hush by tool.

Werny 01-26-2005 12:15 AM

I think Die Eier Von Satan is the 665/667 of Tool, so yeah I think they did it to make fun of the notion that they're satanic.

Adam Jones is GOD 01-26-2005 06:15 AM

[QUOTE=jensmatty]Thats fine it was a fair call.


I dont think he likes appearing in video clips, He's only ever been shown properly in one I think. Hush by tool.[/QUOTE]

3 Libras he's shown in all his glory.

(possibly cos he's surrounded by lots of lurverly ladies at one point).

Otherside 01-26-2005 09:25 AM

Well here it is, my 1000th post, and there would be no better place to have it than in the best thread on these forums. So heres to another 1,000 posts.
-toasts-

jamesclelland 01-26-2005 09:28 AM

hes been shown in judith as well, but they didn't really want to do that type of video.

as for the whammy bar i mentioned earlier, remedy said good idea. give credit to adam jones. he tunes the 6th string to b and pulls the whammy till the string is hanging there. thats one of most interesting non-effect effect i've ever heard.

dUSK 01-26-2005 09:31 AM

Cheers to Otherside :chug:

And without doing a search on this thread, can somebody tell me who Zaum are? I think I might check them out if they're Tool related. I see them mentioned in the thread preview. Thanks.

kurrpt 01-26-2005 09:32 AM

hes in the outsider as well

(LOKI) 01-26-2005 11:18 AM

[QUOTE=Werny]I think Die Eier Von Satan is the 665/667 of Tool, so yeah I think they did it to make fun of the notion that they're satanic.[/QUOTE]

have you read the translation of the lyrics?

jamesclelland 01-26-2005 11:33 AM

the translation in no secret anymore. it's cool that he puts hashish in the recipe though.
for those of you who don't know, check out toolshed.down.net, and go to lyrics. they have the german and english translation.

Street Spirit (Fade Out) 01-26-2005 06:41 PM

[QUOTE=kurrptsenate]hes in the outsider as well[/QUOTE]
heh, that geeky kid.

Daven 01-26-2005 08:33 PM

[QUOTE=Werny]What you said makes no sense, but I can try.

Either:
1) Except for the band, no one knows what the CD is called.

2) They're in studio now, so it's obviously going very well, at least now we know for sure it's coming out this year.[/QUOTE]

sorry its difficult for me to use the correct words sometimes, but thanx

dUSK 01-27-2005 03:46 AM

I just finally finished downloading a bootleg video of Ticks & Leeches. Although the sound and picture quality wasn't 100%, I must say, it would have been amazing to be there. It just made me appreciate Tool slightly more, seeing how awesome there shows look. It's a pity Maynard and Justin weren't shown too much in it, but watching Danny and Adam play was cool. Thats all for now, consider this a bump :p

jensmatty 01-27-2005 04:29 AM

haha its funny, on the FAQ on toolshed, they said Maynard didn't want to do ticks & leeches live because the screaming rooted his voice for 3 weeks lol, When they do it live the vocals sound pretty sketchy coz I think they're using an effect for it instead of him screaming so that he could still do the rest of the freakin set lol. awsome live.

dUSK 01-27-2005 04:34 AM

Yeah I'm pretty sure Maynard was using an effect on his voice, although the SUCK ME DRY screams came out quite well with it.

Werny 01-27-2005 04:38 AM

I've read the translation of the Die Eier Von Satan lyrics and it shows they're making fun of the Satanic notion because people will/would've go "oh, what a satanic song, this band is blasphemous!" but it's just a cake recipe. Soundgarden did the same thing, in two songs they had drums and warped guitar and Cornell screaming "santa, i love you baby (or something along those lines) but it was reversed so it sounded evil.

G_Mac, I have that video, but I don't remember seeing Maynard at all. And I do think that they're just using a scream effect on his voice.

jensmatty 01-27-2005 05:14 AM

[QUOTE]Yeah I'm pretty sure Maynard was using an effect on his voice, although the SUCK ME DRY screams came out quite well with it.[/QUOTE]
I think the scream for that was authentic lOl, but then the rest he pretty much just said the lyrics, you can hear it cracking out and stuff while he's singing. but it's still awsome, and fair enough that he refuses to do it live. must be painful to scream like that for that long! lol

dUSK 01-27-2005 05:55 AM

Maynard can be seen it the video up the back, drinking bottles of water during the softer parts without vocals. Preparing for the scream I guess.

jensmatty 01-27-2005 06:02 AM

Vocalists sure love those bottles of water, with good reason of course. but still. Mer de noms live maynards holding a bottle the entire concert lol.

estel 01-27-2005 06:35 AM

I'm not surprised - Maynard has some punishing screams
The length alone of the screams in Eulogy, Ticks and Leeches and The Grudge would be enough to pain anyone.

Just while we're talking about Maynard, mentioning Eulogy reminded me of something I've wondered -
What does Maynard (I assume it's Maynard, but it could be a sample) say during the break in Eulogy where Adam plays the arpeggiated B/E chord with pick slides? When he does the pick slides, there's definitely something said in the background

Adam Jones is GOD 01-27-2005 06:51 AM

[QUOTE=G_Mac07]Maynard can be seen it the video up the back, drinking bottles of water during the softer parts without vocals. Preparing for the scream I guess.[/QUOTE]

I always wondered why there was the dragged out mellow part in that song. Now i know. Im guessing during it, MJk goes backstage and has throat surgery to do the last part of the song. The water thing was probably a one off.

dUSK 01-27-2005 08:19 AM

Well in that case, for those of you who were lucky enough to see the Lateralus tour, did they play The Grudge? and did Maynard do the scream?

Also, nobody has answered my Zuam question :upset:

Adam Jones is GOD 01-27-2005 08:26 AM

I havent seen them live, but I did find a live video of The Grudge, and he held it for 3/4 of the time he does on the album. Unfortunately the camera is almost constatly fixed on danny the whole way through, so you never get to see how MJk is sustaining it

dUSK 01-27-2005 08:34 AM

A camera fixed on Danny isn't necessarily a bad thing, especially in a song like Ticks & Leeches. Although, I don't find his work in The Grudge as brilliant to listen to though.


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