I want a 20" Crash, give me some ideas. Preferably sabian but im not that bothered

[QUOTE=Drum Phil]I want a 20" Crash, give me some ideas. Preferably sabian but im not that bothered[/QUOTE]

Vault
HH Thin
HH Medium Thin
AAX Studio
AAX Stage
AA Thin
AA Medium Thin
Chad Smith Explosion

A Custom Crash
A Custom Projection Crash
A Thin
A Medium Thin
Oriental Crash of Doom

I have tended to the thinner side of things, as any thicker, and it'd need a harder hit to get it to open up. If that's more the thing you want, then obviously go for mediums.

Chad smith explosion doesnt sound like a bad idea :) or the vault. Be a bit of a bastard to find the chad smith though. Mebe an AAXstage.

[QUOTE=Drum Phil]Chad smith explosion doesnt sound like a bad idea :) or the vault. Be a bit of a bastard to find the chad smith though. Mebe an AAXstage.[/QUOTE]

Yes, it could be. I don't ever recall seeing one. I mean, they could always get one, but you wouldn't know exactly how it'd sound.

On the Paiste side of things...

Traditional Thin
Signature Full (which is a medium, but responds well to a lighter touch)
2002 Crash (medium weight)
2002 Paperthin (new for 2006, the regular "Thin" only comes in 19")
Giant Beat Multi-Funtional

My mention of the Chad Smith, and your metion of finding one jogged my memory. I know where an 18" one is. Not 20" I'm afraid, but as with the BD pedal, if you're interested...

I aint got the cash for it at the moment. I found a pedal that im goin for.

[QUOTE=Drum Phil]I aint got the cash for it at the moment. I found a pedal that im goin for.[/QUOTE]

Ahhh. Whatcha getting?

[QUOTE=Drum Phil]I want a 20" Crash, give me some ideas. Preferably sabian but im not that bothered[/QUOTE]
Primary- HHX, Vault, A, A Custom, 2002, Traditional
Secondary- AAX, AA, A Custom(heavier ones), Sigs, most types of istanbul or bosph
Effect- Stanton Moore Trash Crash, Oriental Crash of Doom

Pretty good list, I've tried all the cymbals exept for the effect ones and istanbul/bosph, but I've heard clips and those are what'd they be good for. The reason I put some as secondary is because some need to be hit too hard to get a good sound and they aren't as veratile. If you play metal secondary can be used as primary, if you play jazz and lighter stuff you can get K, K customs or HH's but I don't really think you want a 20'' crash if your playing jazz or something light.

Oriental crash of doom ey. Nice idea, it'll be my 4th crash so i dont think i could count it as primary. I forgot to mention, i'd like one i can wail on :)

[quote=spirit]Ahhh. Whatcha getting?[/quote]

Eliminator

[QUOTE=Drum Phil]Oriental crash of doom ey. Nice idea, it'll be my 4th crash so i dont think i could count it as primary. I forgot to mention, i'd like one i can wail on :)



Eliminator[/QUOTE]
Ahh, in that case, check out the trash crash AND oriental crash of doom, both very different and are good for fourth:amaze: crashes. From my understanding the Trash Crash still sings when played soft, so I'd go for that.

Who's it made by?

[QUOTE=Drum Phil]Who's it made by?[/QUOTE]

Zildjian Man. I gots a 20 Incher of the Zildjian Oriental Crash Of Doom. Expensive it is, but you won't be dissapointed. The Stanton Moore Is similar ( Made By Bosphorus ).

Both are very Trashy...China like cymbals...I don't know if the feel is something you could wail on...?

I meant the Stanton one. I know what the crash of doom is

[QUOTE=Drum Phil]I meant the Stanton one. I know what the crash of doom is[/QUOTE]

Bosphrous. They have sound clips at cymbalholic.com and bosphorus website....I don't know if its good for crash riding ( asuming thats what you mean ) my crash of doom just washes up and it doesnt sound good....

Oh yeh, thanks for reminding me. The Stanton Moore Trash Crash sounds awesome, in a dark and trashy kind of way.

Also, the Istanbul Trash hit, orin fact any large Istanbul/Bosphorus cymbal would be great.

[QUOTE]A ping ride below 600$$ Australian[/QUOTE] i dont no what i was thinking last night.... :smoke:... what i meant to say is im looking for a ride cymbol to replace my ZXT so just some oppinions on good ride cymbols for no Specific style

well, lets see, i'm not familiar with austrailian money, but look at the sabian AA rides(especially the sabian AA Raw Dry Bell Ride), some of the sabian signature rides or AAX rides, umm, Zildjian A rides, and Meinl Amun and Byzance rides

in your opinion, should i buy a 20" a medium ride for $200, or save up a little more for a K/K custom?

the A medium is a great ride. don't you have ears? try them out! then use your friends ears and try them out! cymbals are LONG term purchases, so buy the ones you REALLY want. from what you're typing im going to guess that you like the Ks more? then save! who knows, you may like the a medium more than the K..

Yeah I have to try them out, i was just seeing what others thought. i think im gonna go to GC tommorow and try out a whole bunch of cymbals and narrow it down to a few.

I know other have brought it up long ago, but I just bought a Zildjian A Sweet ride 21".....absolutely amazing..there were four at the store...some were..eh...but this one was amzing...amazing attack and warm wash (i picked the lowest pitched of the four which also had the best bell and ping..actually and wash)..THIS CYMBAL IS AMAZING..you want a versatile cymbal for anything....this is it

^^ I totally agree, but now I think I've ran into a problem with my ride. When looking closely under the ride, I can see a thin crack, about 1/4 of an inch, but the crack didn't reach the other side. This [B]might[/B] have happened because I started crashing the ride at my first band practice, but I'm really not sure. So, should I just stop crashing my ride? (I'm sorry, this might be a really rhetorical question, but maybe there was something else that cause it to crack...)

[QUOTE=kingofthedrums22]in your opinion, should i buy a 20" a medium ride for $200, or save up a little more for a K/K custom?[/QUOTE]

I hated the A Medium ride, WAYYY too washy, but thats my opinion. I would defiently save up for a KC Ride (try the KC Session, I've got one and its awesome).

Try them both first before making a decision.

Hey everyone, it's been a while since I've been here.....

Right now I'm definetely attracted to the idea of adding a china to my setup, but I would need a very versatile china. It would probably need to be something smaller, and not too loud. As for actual sound qualities, most importantly I want it to blend. Any suggestions would be great. Oh, and I don't have a big budget at all.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=CombatWombat3]Hey everyone, it's been a while since I've been here.....

Right now I'm definetely attracted to the idea of adding a china to my setup, but I would need a very versatile china. It would probably need to be something smaller, and not too loud. As for actual sound qualities, most importantly I want it to blend. Any suggestions would be great. Oh, and I don't have a big budget at all.

Thanks![/QUOTE]


16inch AA chinese. I have the 18 and i love it. Its a nice versatile china.

14" HHX Evolution mini china.

Im considering a 17" Paiste rude thin crash. Opinions?

i think it would stand out a good bit more than your other crashes phil.

Perhaps. Ive had another change of plan now.

oh no...:lol:

20" Oriental crash of doom baby

oh hellz ya. do that, or a 2oo2

16" 17" 18" HHX Evolution crash's
21" hh raw bell dry ride
10" HHX evolution splash
18" HHX china
14" K custom dark hi-hats
11" HH icebell
2x12" HHX evo splashes as aux-pedal hats.

looking for a left side china and maybe a few more splashes to meld with that.
also a second pair of 14" hats

hoping the china to be about the same volume as the 18" hhx china

i was also thinking about a 14" mini-china.

any ideas guys?

20" A Custom china maybe? A brighter contrast?

7" and 10" Evo splashes. Maybe a 10" or 12" from the new Legacy range?

HHX Mini Chinese.

Drum Phil: Paiste 20" Signature Full Crash. Amazing.

Way out of my price range

[QUOTE=Drum Phil]Way out of my price range[/QUOTE]

£193

Nope. Even I can't help you this time :lol:


On a seperate note, I have a real craving for one of the new Zildjian Constantinoples.

22" K Constantinople Hi Bell Thin Ride, Low.

*creams*

Funny thing is, for the price they'll be going for, I could get a [i]real[/i] Vintage K, made in Istanbul 40 or 50 years ago. Silly Zildjian.

To give this post a point, beyond me having an orgasm, is there another ride out there with similar qualities to this one, like an Istanbul or a Bosphorus? Shame it probably won't look as cool. I'll say this for Zildjian, they always make them look good.

Will someone please tell me the sound characterisics of a wuhan traditional ride, and the differences between the medium and medium-heavy one?

I was looking forward to some informative replies...

[QUOTE=Freebyrd]I was looking forward to some informative replies...[/QUOTE]

Me too. I've never played Wuhan stuff. It's rare in the UK. But hopefully someone will notice there are new replies to the thread and answer your question. And maybe mine.