What do ye think of Meinl Byzance cymbals? I'm looking at a classic china.

AAX Stage Hats, A Custom or Z Custom Mastersounds, possibly K/Z Dyno Beats or Byzance Mediums if you like Meinl, great brand.
Classic Chinas are a thumbs down. I wouldn't reccomend one.
Go with a AA Fast China or AAXtreme. ;)

[QUOTE=little_drummer_boy1]i would like hats to play with rock - heavy metal but i usually prefer more studio sounding cymbals[/QUOTE]

14" A/Z Combo with ZC on top.

[QUOTE=3_times_round]14" A/Z Combo with ZC on top.[/QUOTE]

then that would defeat the purpose of having an A at all. if youre gonna do that lose the Z and just get a damn A pair.

It doesn't "Defeat the purpose" at all.
It provides a heavier sound with a slight musicality hint.

[QUOTE=meizmatt]im looking to pick up some new hats,
price range: 100-300 USD
brands: any, no preference
need: versatility, recording ease, use in: metal, jazz, rock anything in between
Size: 14"
anyhelp would be appreciated[/QUOTE]

New Beats

Hey how much do you think I could expect to get for the following cymbals, all used but in very good condition, no cracks and not many stick marks:

Solar 20" Ride
Solar 16" Crash
Solar 14" Hi-hats
Solar 10" splash
and maybe a pair or either ZBT plus or regular ZBT zildjian 14" hi-hats.

I've partially upgraded my cymbals and need some new heads and stands, will these maybe cover at least that?

[QUOTE=DuckinFutch]Hey how much do you think I could expect to get for the following cymbals, all used but in very good condition, no cracks and not many stick marks:

Solar 20" Ride
Solar 16" Crash
Solar 14" Hi-hats
Solar 10" splash
and maybe a pair or either ZBT plus or regular ZBT zildjian 14" hi-hats.

I've partially upgraded my cymbals and need some new heads and stands, will these maybe cover at least that?[/QUOTE]
You won't get much except from severe n00bs. I wouldn't bank on more than $100 for all of the Solars, maybe.

alright, well that's pretty good, I should be able to at least get my heads with that...

And maybe a stand or so...

Any estimate on the ZBT hi-hats?

[QUOTE=Seafroggys]New Beats[/QUOTE]


The last 2 posts by you that's all you've said. I'm certain if I look back a couple pages I will see more of it :lol:

I've heard mixed feelings about the zildjian ZXT china's. Do they really dent that easy or are people just striking them wrong?

I can get a 16" for £50 = 75 euro = $88
or a 18" for £75 = 111 euro = $132

which is the better or should i stay away!!

[QUOTE=Bowler]I've heard mixed feelings about the zildjian ZXT china's. Do they really dent that easy or are people just striking them wrong?

I can get a 16" for £50 = 75 euro = $88
or a 18" for £75 = 111 euro = $132

which is the better or should i stay away!![/QUOTE]

stay away. get a wuhan. cheaper...better. win win situation.

Thanks i'll look into it straight away, can you get wuhan in Europe? I'm in Ireland and have never seen 1!

[QUOTE=Bowler]Thanks i'll look into it straight away, can you get wuhan in Europe? I'm in Ireland and have never seen 1![/QUOTE]

Wembley drum centre stock them.

But your best bet is too look into Stagg China's if your from Ireland.

[QUOTE=Bowler]Thanks i'll look into it straight away, can you get wuhan in Europe? I'm in Ireland and have never seen 1![/QUOTE]

yeah as chris said look into the stag ones then. basically the same.

Ok, I need some suggestions for these cymbals. Any brand. Do whatever you think is right. Mix match brands, anything.

Hi Hat's
Crash 1 (No smaller then 17" for the crashes please)
Crash 2
Ride

They need to be somewhat versatile.
I can see myself playing in a few types of different bands in the future. So, they need to be able to compliment each well. Range goes from soft rock, indie, pop-rock, rock, hardcore, and metal. You get the idea. Just different hybrids of rock basically.

[quote=forgottenDRUMMER]yeah as chris said look into the stag ones then. basically the same.[/quote]

I have 2 of the SH ones and can try and get sound clips if it'll help

[QUOTE=full collapse]Ok, I need some suggestions for these cymbals. Any brand. Do whatever you think is right. Mix match brands, anything.

Hi Hat's
Crash 1 (No smaller then 17" for the crashes please)
Crash 2
Ride

They need to be somewhat versatile.
I can see myself playing in a few types of different bands in the future. So, they need to be able to compliment each well. Range goes from soft rock, indie, pop-rock, rock, hardcore, and metal. You get the idea. Just different hybrids of rock basically.

Example of bands- Straylight Run, Death Cab For Cutie, Boys Night Out, Circa Survive, Gatsby's American Dream, Hidden In Plain View, Northstar, Thursday, Refused, Underminded, Underoath, Hopesfall, Converge, Dillinger Escape Plan, Ed Gein, Reflux.

Sorry this is so complicated. Only way I could really describe what I wanted. Cymbals that can be played in these type of musical context.[/QUOTE]

Hi-hats- AA regular hats or AAX stage hats
Crashes- 17inch AA medium thin crash 18inch AA medium crash
ride-hand hammered raw bell dry ride

[QUOTE=full collapse]Ok, I need some suggestions for these cymbals. Any brand. Do whatever you think is right. Mix match brands, anything.
[/QUOTE]

Hi Hat's = New Beats

I think I have three of these on one page :thumb:

Im looking for a website that sells cheap wuhans and ships worldwide....? anyone help me out

I play metal and I'd like to find a ride with a mega-bell, any suggestions ? I've tried the Zildjian's Z mega-bell 22" but i'd like ot know if other brand make some of these mega-bell rides

[QUOTE=DuckinFutch]alright, well that's pretty good, I should be able to at least get my heads with that...

And maybe a stand or so...

Any estimate on the ZBT hi-hats?[/QUOTE]
Maybe $100 for the pair, if you're lucky.

Well, I need to buy a ride and the brands im thinking are Zildjian, Paiste and Sabian. So if someone could recommend me a good ride that doesnt cost too much would be extremely appreciated. I dont know this is important but the genre I will mostly play is rock or metal.

ok...now what kind of sound are you looking for?

I'm kind of going back in forth between a few rides. Does anybody know what the volume range is for the Zildjian A 22" Ping ride. Can it be played at a soft volume comfortably?

[QUOTE=bobby__johnny]ok...now what kind of sound are you looking for?[/QUOTE]

Im not sure man, since this would be my first ride because the drumset i bought didnt include it. What sound would you recommend? Or what type of sounds are? Sorry for bthe lack for information.

I'm basically looking for a sound exactly like this.

[url]http://www.videocodezone.com/videos/y/yeah_yeah_yeahs/maps.html[/url]

I know it says on the Zildjian website that Brian Chase uses a 22" K Heavy Ride, but I'm not totally sure that would acheive the same sound, because I have played one in person. Maybe I'm just werided out but I'd like to get a few suggestions so I could check 'em all out.

I love how you can hear the bright ping clearly, but there's a tiny bit of wash, but when he crashes on it becomes sharp and spreads, full and massive. You can see he barely even uses his cymbal on his left, that's ALL him crashing on the ride.

Well, cymbals are always going to sound different on recordings then in person.

[QUOTE=Daven]Im not sure man, since this would be my first ride because the drumset i bought didnt include it. What sound would you recommend? Or what type of sounds are? Sorry for bthe lack for information.[/QUOTE]

well, if your unsure, check out the 20" AA Medium Ride. if its too bright or too pingy, or too washy, we can take it from there

well, I'm finally getting a new pair of hats. But I am debating between the Zildjian New Beats and the Mastersounds. Which one would you suggest?