I try not to read too much into things but I find it interesting that Hammet makes a few remarks about a solo album in Guitarworld that he wants to do that sounds nothing like Metallica. It just strikes me as odd.....sure they are working on an album for 06 but just maybe.........he see's a couple or few more albums then they're history.?!?


I also think this time around in the studio may be their most difficult time to date. They have never admited or acknowledged the backlash of disappointment of St.Anger but I think there will be a lot of second guessing themselves on what sounds good and what does'nt.


Thier older albums sound as if they knew exactly what wanted to do and they went into the studio and produced "balls to the walls metal up your a**". I don't know if they have all that anymore, but I think they can still put out a good album***finger's crossed**It would be oh so interesting to hear someone else work with them other than B.Rock. He is practically thier older brother......so its really a family.Bobby will be there till the end.

He probably wouldn't leave metallica if he had a solo record out. I mean it would be pointless to have a solo album that sounds like metallica, plus be with metallica and have an album with metallica. He probably would want to try different styles and stuff. And if they wanted to go back and make a thrash record like KEA, I'm pretty sure Bob couldn't do anything to stop them. But they'll probably just keep changing on the next albums also. I'm very interested in hearing what they're going to come up with next.

This will be thier most highly anticipated album fo sho:p

[QUOTE=DaveTheAmazing 2.0]Hey guys can someone here with guitar pro lend me hand. I' learning Orion. I'm on this riff:
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|--------2----------4----------5--|
|--------2----------4----------5--|
|--------0----------2----------3--|
|0--0-0----0-0-0-0----0-0-0-0----|

You know the one? Well, when I'm playing along with it, I can play that part i just tabbed, but the 0-0-0-0-0-0-1-0-0-0-0 or whatever it is after it, I just don't get. The tab of orion I got from MSB, I dunno, its wrong because when I try it it doesn't sound write. can anyone upload a small gp4 file of that riff? It would be much appretiated <3[/QUOTE]
Here's a screenshot of what I got on PowerTab:

[url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v476/thedeadwalk/untitled.jpg[/url]

I find it funny how everyone goes on about how amazing Cliff's songwriting was, when he only gets credited on 10 songs from their first 3 albums. Add to that it was probably Hetfield doing the majority of the writing in those songs anyway.

To AR: Cliff taught Hetfield most of what he knows aboot music theory. He wrote a lot of the guitar stuff on Puppets too, I'm pretty sure.

[QUOTE=iluvkirkhammett]Yes but Hetfield didn't put beer in someone's pickups with the intent to shock them, he didn't judo throw people... Mustaine was a terrible terrible drunk, he was angry and violent and you can't blame them for not wanting to be around him.[/quote]
Hetfield wasn't a violent drunk, no. However, he had 20 years to ditch the problem, and it took a 12 month rehab trip to cure him. Mustaine never got that chance. He never got rehab. The band never said "Hey, Dave, you need to go to rehab because you're a violent drunk." Instead, they threw him out, in New York, with just enough money to get a Greyhound bus back to LA.

[quote]Mustaine was kicked out before most of the success even happened. A couple of the songs he wrote were part of their success but at the same time most of what they've done he hasn't even been a part of.[/quote]
"A couple"? Try, almost the entire first album was written by him and Hetfield alone, plus two or three of the songs on Lightning.

[quote]And every single thing he said in the meeting with Lars was specifically said to make Lars feel bad, there was no other purpose but that. He wasn't trying to fix things for anyone but himself. The meeting shows how incredibly selfish Dave is. It's been over 20 years.[/quote]
Were you present at the meeting with Lars and Dave? That meeting was over 3 hours. They showed 5 minutes. You don't know jack about the meeting, nor do I. You have no idea apart from the 5 minutes they showed, which are obviously going to show Lars in the most positive light they can and will make Dave out to be the selfish prick.

[QUOTE=iluvkirkhammett]It was his own damn fault! Doesn't he realise that he was a hazard to everyone around him! They had to do it![/quote]
Maybe they had to do it, but the way they went about doing it was so cold.

[QUOTE=iluvkirkhammett]He has more success than most musicians could ever dream of, why can't he just be happy with that? It's only because Metallica got so big that he really cares at all.[/quote]
It's not the fact Metallica got so big, Mustaine put his blood, sweat and tears into Metallica, only to literally be kicked on the streets. I doubt anyone here could even comprehend how that feels, no one here knows what to do in that situation, so stop marking Dave for holding a grudge when I'm pretty certain you would too (I know I would :cool: ).

[QUOTE=iluvkirkhammett]And what right does he have to sit there and say "Oh I wish Cliff was here" just to make Lars feel bad, knowing damn well that all of Metallica's issues go back to Cliff.[/quote]
Mustaine was great friends with Cliff, even to the point where he wrote a song dedicated for Cliff, I personally believe Mustaine has more right to call Cliff a friend then Lars.

[QUOTE=iluvkirkhammett]It was so long ago, GET OVER IT![/quote]
Maybe because you're female, and females don't hold grudges for as long as males, but I'm sure most people on this forum would still be holding the grudge 40+ years, it's the way it was done, if you put so much into something, only to be kicked into the cold.

I totally respect Mustaine for starting Megadeth, I see it as a "You didn't think I was good enough, well here I come to prove you wrong!" sort of thing, and that is so perfect for me, that gives me inspiration to continue and push myself to the best of ability I can. I like to relate myself to a similar situation to Mustaine, but I know there are too many factors to be accurate :mad:

[QUOTE=Aw3someman]its Ultimate guitar

[url]http://www.ultimate-guitar.com[/url]
Crappy forums good tabs.[/QUOTE]

they completly copied us!!! or we copied them.....

[QUOTE=vashts80]Hetfield wasn't a violent drunk, no. However, he had 20 years to ditch the problem, and it took a 12 month rehab trip to cure him. Mustaine never got that chance. He never got rehab. The band never said "Hey, Dave, you need to go to rehab because you're a violent drunk." Instead, they threw him out, in New York, with just enough money to get a Greyhound bus back to LA.[/QUOTE]

I'm not going to say what they did was nice, which obviously wasn't, but the reason they just kicked him out was problem because they just got signed like a year before, and didn't want to risk it. Plus hetfield was never acting as a maniac, and beating people up when he was drunk. And hetfield was co-founder of metallica, so that's probably the main reason. So yea, they were very cruel to kicking him out, but it is [B]his[/B] fault.

[QUOTE=vashts80]"A couple"? Try, almost the entire first album was written by him and Hetfield alone, plus two or three of the songs on Lightning.[/QUOTE]

Actually, mustaine only helped write 4/10 songs on kill em all. Those are the four horsemen, jump in the fire, phantom lord, and metal militia. On ride the lightning, he only helped write 2 songs which are ride the lightning, and the call of ktulu. Hetfield and Ulrich have and still write most of metallica material. Out of those he helped write, I gotta say the call of ktulu kicks the most as[B]s[/B]. But on KEA, Seek and destroy is best imo.

[QUOTE=vashts80]
Hetfield wasn't a violent drunk, no. However, he had 20 years to ditch the problem, and it took a 12 month rehab trip to cure him. Mustaine never got that chance. He never got rehab. The band never said "Hey, Dave, you need to go to rehab because you're a violent drunk." Instead, they threw him out, in New York, with just enough money to get a Greyhound bus back to LA.

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You've pretty much just copied exactly what he said in SKOM, congratulations, you have a good memory.

[quote]
"A couple"? Try, almost the entire first album was written by him and Hetfield alone, plus two or three of the songs on Lightning.
[/quote]

Hetfield and Ulrich have pretty much always been the two main songwriters for Metallica.

[quote]
Were you present at the meeting with Lars and Dave? That meeting was over 3 hours. They showed 5 minutes. You don't know jack about the meeting, nor do I. You have no idea apart from the 5 minutes they showed, which are obviously going to show Lars in the most positive light they can and will make Dave out to be the selfish prick.[/QUOTE]

I didn't have to be present to know what the hell was going on. Dave was sitting there talking and Lars quite obviously was uncomfortable with it.

Look you can say whatever you want, what's done is done and sitting there whinging about it doesn't change a damn thing, and Dave should realise that too. He's a great guitarist, not a bad vocalist, his found success with Megadeth, they're not as big as Metallica but who cares. He can't change a what happened.

It was crap what happened to him. It was also terrible the way James, Lars and even Kirk to a certain extent, treated Jason for 14 years. And it was tragic the way in which Cliff died. But you can't change it.

Oh and to Chu: My sister's boyfriend and my best friend died in a car accident almost 3 years ago. Simply because he was my friend, does that give me the right to rub it in her face everytime she does something really mean to me?

[QUOTE=thedeadwalk!]Here's a screenshot of what I got on PowerTab:

[url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v476/thedeadwalk/untitled.jpg[/url][/QUOTE]
Thanks, but that didn't really help at all. I tried tabbing that out onto guitar pro, but i got confused and now I'm more confused than ever! thanks for the effort tho <3

Why are you guys making such huge posts? I don't wanna have to read all that!

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I got 'Kill 'Em All' and 'ReLoad' for Christmas, I now have every Metallica Studio album

[QUOTE=Doctor Night]Why are you guys making such huge posts? I don't wanna have to read all that!

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I got 'Kill 'Em All' and 'ReLoad' for Christmas, I now have every Metallica Studio album[/QUOTE]
hahaha you remind me of kirk from SKOM, telling everyone to stop arguing and bringing something more cheery up. gg.

I don't think Kirk actually ever be mean to anyone. I mean listen and take a look at the guy.

[QUOTE=Doctor Night]Why are you guys making such huge posts? I don't wanna have to read all that!

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I got 'Kill 'Em All' and 'ReLoad' for Christmas, I now have every Metallica Studio album[/QUOTE]
I got a couple of LTE cds and a DT DVD. they're yet to arrive though. I already have every 'Tallica studio album :)

So I got Kill 'Em All for Xmas, it's good since the fact it was one of the first pieces of thrash.

[QUOTE=Cathedral]So I got Kill 'Em All for Xmas, it's good since the fact it was one of the first pieces of thrash.[/QUOTE]
Heh when I first heard that, the thrashiest thing I had ever heard was the stuff of Reload. I sat there and was like "wow". Obviously I know now that KEA isn't all that thrashy but still.

[QUOTE=iluvkirkhammett]
I didn't have to be present to know what the hell was going on. Dave was sitting there talking and Lars quite obviously was uncomfortable with it.

Look you can say whatever you want, what's done is done and sitting there whinging about it doesn't change a damn thing, and Dave should realise that too. He's a great guitarist, not a bad vocalist, his found success with Megadeth, they're not as big as Metallica but who cares. He can't change a what happened.[/QUOTE]
You don't have to be present to know what the hell was going on? So I could make accusations about a person I don't know, while only seeing 5 minutes of a meeting that was 3 hours or more? Nice logic.

They spliced that meeting up to make Dave out to be a selfish prick, which is exactly what you're buying into.

Megadeth hardly had success. Outside of metal circles, they're not successful at all compared to Metallica. Megadeth has sold ~16,000,000 records in 21 years. Metallica has sold ~105,000,000 records in 23 years. Go figure.

Hey Vashts80 why do you always come back and cause arguments in this thread, if you don't like the band then just leave the thread alone.

Ignorance is bliss. It's not that I don't like the band; I was one of the biggest Metallica fanboy's you'd have ever met if you talked to me a year and a half ago. iluvkirkhammett keeps providing fuel for the fire of my "arguements", which aren't even arguements at all.

I think I understand what your saying, but most people in this thread realise that Metallica aren't the only band on the planet.

Is anyone else's local radio station playing all day Metallica for X-mas? Last year mine did, and I turned on the radio today, and they played 3 Metallica songs in a row, so I guess they're doing again this year.

[QUOTE=vashts80]It's not that I don't like the band[/QUOTE]

You've said several times already "As much as I can't stand metallica, ..."

Lol, yea, I don't think you like them. Even I who doesn't like slayer or megadeth much never go into their threads just to bitch at whatever happened during their careers.

[QUOTE=Butcher]Is anyone else's local radio station playing all day Metallica for X-mas? Last year mine did, and I turned on the radio today, and they played 3 Metallica songs in a row, so I guess they're doing again this year.[/QUOTE]

My radio stations are gay. They usually wont play metallica at all. Maybe only like load/reload songs and that's about it. Would be nice if they played kea through st. anger every song.

[QUOTE=Butcher]Is anyone else's local radio station playing all day Metallica for X-mas? Last year mine did, and I turned on the radio today, and they played 3 Metallica songs in a row, so I guess they're doing again this year.[/QUOTE]Why don't they play Christmas music like everything else?

We have a Metal Christmas here too. It's all metal all day. Mostly Metallica, CoB, Opeth (just one so far), and Megadeth(couldn't believe it when Symphony of Destruction came on)

[QUOTE=Butcher]Is anyone else's local radio station playing all day Metallica for X-mas? Last year mine did, and I turned on the radio today, and they played 3 Metallica songs in a row, so I guess they're doing again this year.[/QUOTE]
No. We get nothing like that here.

[QUOTE=Aw3someman]We have a Metal Christmas here too. It's all metal all day. Mostly Metallica, CoB, Opeth (just one so far), and Megadeth(couldn't believe it when Symphony of Destruction came on)[/QUOTE]That's awesome. I wish it was like that here.

[QUOTE=vashts80]
He'll never get over it. He has all the right in the world to be angry.
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I think he got over it already, i think last year give an interview to headbangers ball and said that he forgive Metallica, or something like that.

This was weeks after dimebag died.

Dave said he didn't want to argue with anyone anymore because of Dime's death.

[QUOTE=Butcher]Is anyone else's local radio station playing all day Metallica for X-mas? Last year mine did, and I turned on the radio today, and they played 3 Metallica songs in a row, so I guess they're doing again this year.[/QUOTE]

24 hour Metalli-xmas, jaja rock 105.3.

[QUOTE=heavy metal kid]I think he got over it already, i think last year give an interview to headbangers ball and said that he forgive Metallica, or something like that.

This was weeks after dimebag died.[/QUOTE]

I know he said it, but he'll probably eventually start again, trust me...Dave's like that

[QUOTE=PepsiMetal]You've said several times already "As much as I can't stand metallica, ..."

Lol, yea, I don't think you like them. Even I who doesn't like slayer or megadeth much never go into their threads just to bitch at whatever happened during their careers.[/quote]

I still listen go them occasionally, and Battery is a fun finger-workout. I'm not as much into them as I was, however.

Dude just stop now. We don't need any arguments.

ZOMGZ STOP LOLZ

There's a difference between "arguing" and "a discussion." I'm having a discussion. People who are like "zomgz stop arguging!!!!" are the ones who are actually arguing.

Ugh, I'm not even going to bother.

Why aren't you going to "bother"? Because I like to have discussions on very valid topics, providing facts to go with what I'm discussing?

No, he probably doesn't want to bother because you think you know everything, and everyone else here is wrong. Basically if 500 million people disagreed with you, you would still say you are right and they're wrong. Especially on music taste which is subjective and not factual.

N e 1 no what happened 2 the tab site?

[QUOTE=thelittledrummerboy]N e 1 no what happened 2 the tab site?[/QUOTE]
Read the bloody announcment :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=Aw3someman]I don't think Kirk actually ever be mean to anyone. I mean listen and take a look at the guy.[/QUOTE]

Lol yeah, the 'feel the love' version of Kirk rocks, seeing him earlier when he was like drunk or high (eg Cliff em All) he was still nice, just a tad rude at times... eg on tour "Wake up Kirk..." (James and Lars) "Sons of bitches..." (Kirk)

Kirk stays in the background. He tries to be the good guy in everything, whilst not getting his point across at all.

Anyway, who said Lars was a songwriter? he's not a songwriter at all, he 'composes' the songs with James. Just another ego boost of having his name in the writing credits.