[QUOTE=SactoUnited]Listen to Bridges and Gaps.[/QUOTE]
What part of it? There are a lot of different kinds of riffs in that song.

The riff that starts at 5 seconds into the song.

[QUOTE=Johnny Roddick]Dag Nasty emo? Huh?[/QUOTE]

yeah. Dag Nasty are an emo band. MCR and TBS are not.

So octaves make a song emo? With Honor have the same type or riffing as Champion, just a lot more complex.

[QUOTE=DOLEMITE]we are playing huge one in elk grove[/QUOTE]
Who else is playing?

I may be at my Dad's at that time.



Good news though, I might be back early on the 12th ofr Colin of Arabia.

That's it, some octaves don't bother me, but I just can't get into WH's, although I will admit the stuff they do is way more difficult than a bunch of power chords.

I can understand not liking octaves, but I don't understand how you can like Champion but not With Honor.

[QUOTE=oopyman]I can understand not liking octaves, but I don't understand how you can like Champion but not With Honor.[/QUOTE]
Vocals are a little bit of the factor too.

Isn't most of With Honor's stuff powerchords and octaves?

MLIW is more talented than With Honor, just sayin'.

[QUOTE=40 oz 2 freedom]MLIW is more talented than With Honor, just sayin'.[/QUOTE]
This is probably true.

I'm not a big fan of WH but I don't mind the demo from time to time.

[QUOTE=40 oz 2 freedom]MLIW is more talented than With Honor, just sayin'.[/QUOTE]

They are probably better songwriters but With Honor are better musicians. But yeh, comparisons aside, they are equally unique and important to modern Hardcore.

[QUOTE=oopyman]I can understand not liking octaves, but I don't understand how you can like Champion but not With Honor.[/QUOTE]
Eh, i'm the opposite. I like With Honor a lot but don't like Champion.

And I agree with Nate's last post.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Lifetime is reuniting for Hellfest!!

When anyone says 'I dont like Champion' somewhere, somehow, a straight edge kid dies.

[QUOTE=Nataroo]When anyone says 'I dont like Champion' somewhere, somehow, a straight edge kid dies.[/QUOTE]
I don't completely dislike them, i'll still listen to a few songs from time to time. Just not the biggest fan.

[QUOTE=NewKindofArmy03]!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Lifetime is reuniting for Hellfest!![/QUOTE]
Sinking Ships covered one of their songs on saturday and Killing The Dream did a kid dynamite song.

[QUOTE=NewKindofArmy03]I don't completely dislike them, i'll still listen to a few songs from time to time. Just not the biggest fan.[/QUOTE]
I was talking to some people from maine and they said that champion are HUGE on the east coast right now.

I see more Champion hoods than any other hardcore band over here, even Terror and Bane.

Yeah, Champion are huge everywhere now.

It'd rule if Kid Dynamite also did this. All the members will be at Hellfest so it should just happen.

I'm also gonna wait until the official announcement to fully believe this.

[QUOTE=Nataroo]I see more Champion hoods than any other hardcore band over here, even Terror and Bane.[/QUOTE]
I see about 5 Terrors for every Champion at shows.

Every other kid has Terror merch at shows.

Who's listening to the show tonight?

I have a champion shirt and just ordered the new champion hoodie. The grey Seattle Straight Edge one.

I've got 2 Champion shirts and a Champion zip-up. I wear my Guns Up! hoodie more though.

OmG@! i saw jim frum champion at stay gold. wut a rock star

Who are you mocking?

My self

Silly.