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magicbus 05-20-2005 08:31 AM

[QUOTE=rock not roll]I'm going to post this link from the cream reunion thread in here just because you guys would be more interested than the actual thread.

[url]http://unixguru.spymac.com/[/url][/QUOTE]


Sweeeeeeeet :thumb:

Walrus Gumboot 05-20-2005 08:33 AM

[QUOTE=PinkFreud]truth

arent you supposed to be in school?[/QUOTE]


I am in school :p It's C-Block, Independent Study Latin

And you?

PinkFreud 05-20-2005 08:44 AM

[QUOTE=Walrus Gumboot]I am in school :p It's C-Block, Independent Study Latin

And you?[/QUOTE]
senior skip day :thumb:

i lost my case in court this morning though, so i still get points on my license as well as a fine. i died a little.

lunch998 05-20-2005 12:57 PM

The Senior Skip day at our school was also 5/5/05. I skipped anyway.

robo2448 05-20-2005 01:24 PM

[QUOTE=PinkFreud]senior skip day :thumb:

i lost my case in court this morning though, so i still get points on my license as well as a fine. i died a little.[/QUOTE]

what'd you do?

EDIT- Most of dylan's versions of his songs are better than covers. Watchtower might be one exception.

doorsofperception420 05-20-2005 01:42 PM

[QUOTE=robo2448]what'd you do?

EDIT- Most of dylan's versions of his songs are better than covers. Watchtower might be one exception.[/QUOTE]

I'm thinkin' covers are either bad, or as good as the original but in a different way. Ya know?

TheDMV 05-20-2005 01:48 PM

There's no douby for me Hendrix's version of the song was better. He just put so much emotion and feeling into it, like all of his songs. It also helps that Hendrix is one of my favorite artists of all time. I think that many Dylan covers are better than the original. Dylan was emotional, but he really wasn't that great of a singer. I find that as I've listened to more Dylan though, his voice has slowly grown on me.

robo2448 05-20-2005 02:01 PM

the best covers are always improvised or have to be changed but still the same basic construction. A lot of the Dead's covers are very good because they improvise on great songs.

robo2448 05-20-2005 02:06 PM

[QUOTE=TheDMV]There's no douby for me Hendrix's version of the song was better. He just put so much emotion and feeling into it, like all of his songs. It also helps that Hendrix is one of my favorite artists of all time. I think that many Dylan covers are better than the original. Dylan was emotional, but he really wasn't that great of a singer. I find that as I've listened to more Dylan though, his voice has slowly grown on me.[/QUOTE]

I love Dylan's voice, but realize i'm in the minority.

thickasabrick 05-20-2005 02:13 PM

[QUOTE=robo2448]I love Dylan's voice, but realize i'm in the minority.[/QUOTE]

Yeah I'm one of the few guys I know who think Dylans voice suited his songs perfectly. He just has such a personal voice, as if he's singing only to you. I think shows this best on Freewheelin and Blood on the Tracks.

TheDMV 05-20-2005 02:15 PM

I think he's terrific on TAngled up in Blue. If you've heard him recently though...:shudders:

Illmatic 05-20-2005 02:21 PM

Has anyone brought this up?

Does anyone else think that another main reason for the downfall of classic rock is that the anger, confusion, and disillusionment that fueled rock music in the late-60's and early-70's simply faded away?

TheDMV 05-20-2005 02:23 PM

I think that the anger at least mutated into punk. Confusion plays a big part in punk and metal too. Classic rock didn't really die, it evolved.

Illmatic 05-20-2005 02:29 PM

Saying it "evolved" into punk is debatable, it probably at least branched off, though.

Woodstock 05-20-2005 02:30 PM

[QUOTE=Illmatic]Has anyone brought this up?

Does anyone else think that another main reason for the downfall of classic rock is that the anger, confusion, and disillusionment that fueled rock music in the late-60's and early-70's simply faded away?[/QUOTE]
Yes, there was a lot more turmoil during the 60's than the 70's.

Woodstock 05-20-2005 02:31 PM

[QUOTE=Illmatic]Saying it "evolved" into punk is debatable, it probably at least branched off, though.[/QUOTE]
Punk really killed all the arena rock bands like Led Zeppelin. It's just natural musical evolution.

thickasabrick 05-20-2005 02:32 PM

[QUOTE=TheDMV]I think that the anger at least mutated into punk. Confusion plays a big part in punk and metal too. Classic rock didn't really die, it evolved.[/QUOTE]

Exactly what I think too. It evolved. That's a good way to say it. It didn't necessarily evolve into something better (in my opinion), but it evolved. Eventually it will evolve into something even better than any of us have ever imagined though. That may be a while. Music's always evolving.

lunch998 05-20-2005 02:41 PM

Well when referring to the classic rock of the late 60's, it evolved/died out as the Vietnam War started to die down in the early 70's. The protesting had been done, it was old news now.

Illmatic 05-20-2005 02:42 PM

[QUOTE=lunch998]Well when referring to the classic rock of the late 60's, it evolved/died out as the Vietnam War started to die down in the early 70's. The protesting had been done, it was old news now.[/QUOTE]

That's what I meant initially.

lunch998 05-20-2005 02:45 PM

[QUOTE=Illmatic]That's what I meant initially.[/QUOTE]

That goes along with the confusion part especially, so I definitely see your point.

Illmatic 05-20-2005 02:50 PM

I think that for a brief while, that anger, confusion, and disillusionment was transferred to rap, but soon rap became oversaturated and lost it. But I think it could be returning to rap.

lunch998 05-20-2005 02:58 PM

It's really annoying when bands are liberal to be cool. In fact it's really annoying when anyone does that. When I saw Incubus, at the end of the show Bradon Boyd told everyone to vote for Kerry and stuff like that. Even though I agree with him, it's an annoying fad of people who hate Bush just to hate him.

Illmatic 05-20-2005 02:58 PM

Another problem with that is that the Vote For Kerry band campaign was filled old news (James Taylor, Bruce Springsteen, Dave Matthews, Incubus, etc.). Nothing radical and new and a[size=2]sskicking[/size], just reheated leftovers (of bands that should have just stayed buried in the back of the fridge, metaphorically speaking).

And my post about rap stemmed from "911 is a Joke" suddenly coming up on my playlist. Public Enemy was in on that too.

thickasabrick 05-20-2005 03:04 PM

Good god, I started reading these posts and I thought I accidently clicked on like the Politics/World News etc forums. It took me a while to realize this was Classic Rock.

I just don't think artists have anything new to say politically. Basically everything that's happening now in the world, was also happening in the sixties, we've been hearing songs say the same message for decades now. It's getting very stagnant.

Illmatic 05-20-2005 03:07 PM

[QUOTE=thickasabrick]Good god, I started reading these posts and I thought I accidently clicked on like the Politics/World News etc forums. It took me a while to realize this was Classic Rock.

I just don't think artists have anything new to say politically. Basically everything that's happening now in the world, was also happening in the sixties, we've been hearing songs say the same message for decades now. It's getting very stagnant.[/QUOTE]

My problem with it is that no one nowadays even seems to CARE. With the Vote For Change tour, it was like, "Let's hope 18 year olds even know who we are". It just seemed like a desperate cash grab. Everything is oversaturated nowadays.

thickasabrick 05-20-2005 03:09 PM

[QUOTE=Illmatic]My problem with it is that no one nowadays even seems to CARE. With the Vote For Change tour, it was like, "Let's hope 18 year olds even know who we are". It just seemed like a desperate cash grab. Everything is oversaturated nowadays.[/QUOTE]

Yeah I remember back in the sixties. I was at Woodstock and I had a chance to speak with Jimi Hendrix backstage, and he said it isn't even about material things or individual people...it's about humans as a species joining together for the good of mankind and the earth.

edit- that might not have happened...now that I think about it.

BludgeonySteve 05-20-2005 03:13 PM

[QUOTE=Woodstock]Punk really killed all the arena rock bands like Led Zeppelin. It's just natural musical evolution.[/QUOTE]

The result of my hatred of punk music.

or atleast most punk music.

thickasabrick 05-20-2005 03:15 PM

[QUOTE=rock not roll]The result of my hatred of punk music.

or atleast most punk music.[/QUOTE]

I don't mind a lot of punk music. Some bands really get on my nerves though, I mean anger and aggression is a big part of music (espeically punk) but you also need some musical talent.

doorsofperception420 05-20-2005 03:16 PM

[QUOTE=thickasabrick]Yeah I remember back in the sixties. I was at Woodstock and I had a chance to speak with Jimi Hendrix backstage, and he said it isn't even about material things or individual people...it's about humans as a species joining together for the good of mankind and the earth.

edit- that might not have happened...now that I think about it.[/QUOTE]
Dude that made me laugh. Oh man, I wish I was alive for the 60's...

edit -- by the way, is your username from Jethro Tull?

lunch998 05-20-2005 03:16 PM

A lot of punk just seems to me that what bands lacked in musical ability they tried to make up for with attitude. Obviously this does not apply to all punk bands.

BludgeonySteve 05-20-2005 03:17 PM

Not all, but a huge chunk of it.

the real talent is in soul-less arena rock.

Illmatic 05-20-2005 03:17 PM

[QUOTE=thickasabrick]Yeah I remember back in the sixties. I was at Woodstock and I had a chance to speak with Jimi Hendrix backstage, and he said it isn't even about material things or individual people...it's about humans as a species joining together for the good of mankind and the earth.

edit- that might not have happened...now that I think about it.[/QUOTE]

Smart[size=2]as[/size]s.

thickasabrick 05-20-2005 03:17 PM

[QUOTE=doorsofperception420]Dude that made me laugh. Oh man, I wish I was alive for the 60's...[/QUOTE]

Don't we all. :thumb:

Who's the bassist for the Grateful Dead? He's quite possibly my favourite bassist right now. I love his tone too.

lunch998 05-20-2005 03:20 PM

Phil Lesh, he's amazing.

doorsofperception420 05-20-2005 03:21 PM

[QUOTE=thickasabrick]Don't we all. :thumb:

Who's the bassist for the Grateful Dead? He's quite possibly my favourite bassist right now. I love his tone too.[/QUOTE]
Dude Phil Lesh is the man. One of the reasons I got into bass. That and Entwhistle..

jpj 05-20-2005 03:22 PM

Phil Lesh is the man!

He wrote a book call My Life with The Grateful Dead. I really want to read it.

BludgeonySteve 05-20-2005 03:22 PM

Chris Squire is my favorite bassist.

actually it's Jack Bruce, or entwhistle or Phil Lesh, or umm

Bass is good :)

BludgeonySteve 05-20-2005 03:24 PM

I'm catching up to you in total posts in this thread, Gaypj. :mad:

doorsofperception420 05-20-2005 03:24 PM

[QUOTE=rock not roll]Chris Squire is my favorite bassist.

actually it's Jack Bruce, or entwhistle or Phil Lesh, or umm

Bass is good :)[/QUOTE]
Haha yeah, there are a lot of good ones..

uh, thickasabrick -- is your username from Jethro Tull?

JonG 05-20-2005 03:25 PM

[QUOTE=doorsofperception420]
uh, thickasabrick -- is your username from Jethro Tull?[/QUOTE]
No his head is as thick as a brick.



/Captain Obvious


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