[QUOTE=Happy]Ebay delivers my Cds all cracked.[/QUOTE]


The cd, or the case?

[QUOTE=GenuineImitation]The cd, or the case?[/QUOTE]
The case. I know it's replaceable but it pisses me off.

Does anyone have the song Raise The Knife? I really want to hear it.

I got I&W from amazon for £5

What do you guys think of Liquid Tension Experiment ?

[QUOTE=LedZeppelin112580918]What do you guys think of Liquid Tension Experiment ?[/QUOTE]


Paradigm shift is amazing. Unfortunately the only LTE song I have heard.

[QUOTE=LedZeppelin112580918]What do you guys think of Liquid Tension Experiment ?[/QUOTE]
i like them, especially Biaxident. but i dont really like the 'Jam' songs in LTE2. they bore me.

LTE II is an amazing cd, the first one seems a bit too random and jammed to me.
but thean again, thwey just came together, had a jam, and LTE was the result.
I wish I could jam like that :p

[QUOTE=LedZeppelin112580918]What do you guys think of Liquid Tension Experiment ?[/QUOTE]

I've only heard Acid Rain, but I was amazed by it.

images and words was my first DT cd, but i soon bought as many as i could get my hands on.. any one heard "hollow years" live version on the live at budokan album.. unbelievable guitar solo.. really touching, you can just feel the emotion petrucci puts in it.. its amazing, you dont find to many bands now a days that can effectivly manage to put emotion into their songs, its one thing to be able to play a song.. its another to actually be able to PLAY it... if you catch my drift

I like the way the bassist out of Liquid Tension Experiment plays the Chapman stick aswell as the bass.Actually, does he even play the bass? Obviously I don't know them that well, but I think they're pretty dam' good.

[QUOTE=elbassio]I like the way the bassist out of Liquid Tension Experiment plays the Chapman stick aswell as the bass.Actually, does he even play the bass? Obviously I don't know them that well, but I think they're pretty dam' good.[/QUOTE]

the bassist for LTE is Tony Levin, and he is awesome indeed, he plays Chapman stick, but mainly Bassguitar.

but this dosn't mean John Myung of DT isn't on par with Tont.
Myung plays Chapman Stick too.

and I want to play it too, but I have been old it's difficult like hell, but I play Keyboard, so I might have an advantage

[QUOTE=the2stranger]the bassist for LTE is Tony Levin, and he is awesome indeed, he plays Chapman stick, but mainly Bassguitar.

but this dosn't mean John Myung of DT isn't on par with Tont.
Myung plays Chapman Stick too.

and I want to play it too, but I have been old it's difficult like hell, but I play Keyboard, so I might have an advantage[/QUOTE]

Actually in LTE I'm pretty sure Levin plays Champan Stick nearly all the time. He is truely amazing on this instrument, for more proof check out some King Crimson, like the album Discipline.

The only time I've know Myung to play a Chapman Stick is on New Millenium, which appears to be very simple compared to some of the things Levin plays. While Myung may be just a good a bass player I reckon Levin is miles ahead with the Stick.

I may be wrong here but did Levin invent the Chapman Stick? I guess it was more likely to be someone called Chapman, but I'm sure I read he did somewhere.

i believe the chapman stick was invented by Emmet Chapman

[QUOTE=red barchetta]i believe the chapman stick was invented by Emmet Chapman[/QUOTE]

yes, you are right.

the site, which I forgot:confused:
has nice clips about the stick

I really want to play it, but it's not easy methinks

I think metallica should have got a chapman stick player instead of rob....that would be interesting

YAY!!!! TODAY IS AN OCTAVARIUM NUGGET!!!! 08-08-05. My brother realised not me, I am not that sad

[QUOTE=scenesfromatheater]I think metallica should have got a chapman stick player instead of rob....that would be interesting

YAY!!!! TODAY IS AN OCTAVARIUM NUGGET!!!! 08-08-05. My brother realised not me, I am not that sad[/QUOTE]
But it's 8-10-05 or 10-8-05 if you're american.

darn it, its not 08-08-05, I'm pretty stupid.

OCTAVARIUM DAY....maybe - 08-10-05

ahhhh....I get it now....its _OCT_ober

so its.... 08-Oct-05

now i get it :p

I thought you drank a tat bit too much ;)
Octovarium for teh win ( only the track, the rest of the cd,meh)

Yeah lets celebrate the true mark of a band that's out of ideas.

I celebrate some brilliant ballads and some meh heavier stuff.

[QUOTE=MAthiAS]Yeah lets celebrate the true mark of a band that's out of ideas.[/QUOTE]

as much as I love DT, I think you're right.

I propose a toast to many good releases in the past, and that DT end their carriere with dignity

[QUOTE=the2stranger]as much as I love DT, I think you're right.

I propose a toast to many good releases in the past, and that DT end their carriere with dignity[/QUOTE]

I hope by ending their carrer with dignity you don't mean they should finish now?
They are still an amazing band and Octavarium is one of the best songs they have ever written so I don't think anyone can say they are out of ideas.

[QUOTE=nowitzki]
They are still an amazing band and Octavarium is one of the best songs they have ever written so I don't think anyone can say they are out of ideas.[/QUOTE]
Yes, they are. Lets look at 8vm:

1) Root of All Evil - Continuing an epic type thing... yeah, whatever. The songs in this thing are getting progressively worse, and do no justice to the original.

2) The Answer Lies Within - Trying to rewrite Another Day. Failed miserably.

3) These Walls - Pretty good song, crappy lyrics. They've done much better, but I can't really knock too much on this one.

4) I Walk Beside You - U2 suck.

5) Panic Attack - Cool intro, that's all that's good. Boring heavy song, we've all heard it before.

6) Never Enough - Muse are good. But please... write your own music.

7) Sacrificed Sons - Meh.

8) Octavarium - See track 6, but insert Pink Floyd and Megadeth.

[QUOTE]2) The Answer Lies Within - Trying to rewrite Another Day. Failed miserably.

3) These Walls - Pretty good song, crappy lyrics. They've done much better, but I can't really knock too much on this one.

4) I Walk Beside You - U2 suck.[/QUOTE]
My favourite tracks on the album, I dunno why people dislike it, it's the [I]ballads[/I], man.

all true apart from...

8) Octavarium - one of the greatest songs DT have written and is awsome

[QUOTE=nowitzki]I hope by ending their carrer with dignity you don't mean they should finish now?
They are still an amazing band and Octavarium is one of the best songs they have ever written so I don't think anyone can say they are out of ideas.[/QUOTE]

I think another 8vm would ruin the image they held so high for 10+ years

I'm a huge fan, and I would really love to see them keep on touring, but no new stuff, unless it's on par with early stuff

Its really not worth it for them to keep touring... they're so boring live, and they don't even play their good stuff anymore.
[quote]My favourite tracks on the album, I dunno why people dislike it, it's the ballads, man.[/quote]
I like ballads if they're good. These aren't.

[QUOTE=MAthiAS]Yes, they are. Lets look at 8vm:

1) Root of All Evil - Continuing an epic type thing... yeah, whatever. The songs in this thing are getting progressively worse, and do no justice to the original.

2) The Answer Lies Within - Trying to rewrite Another Day. Failed miserably.

3) These Walls - Pretty good song, crappy lyrics. They've done much better, but I can't really knock too much on this one.

4) I Walk Beside You - U2 suck.

5) Panic Attack - Cool intro, that's all that's good. Boring heavy song, we've all heard it before.

6) Never Enough - Muse are good. But please... write your own music.

7) Sacrificed Sons - Meh.

8) Octavarium - See track 6, but insert Pink Floyd and Megadeth.[/QUOTE]
good review. Octavarium is overrated.

[QUOTE=the2stranger]I think another 8vm would ruin the image they held so high for 10+ years

I'm a huge fan, and I would really love to see them keep on touring, but no new stuff, unless it's on par with early stuff[/QUOTE]

I'm sure some people thought that after FII, but they pulled it out the bag, recovered and made arguably the best album of their career. I'm always interested to see what they're going to do next, every album they've ever made is so different you just don't know what to expect.


[QUOTE=MAthiAS]Its really not worth it for them to keep touring... they're so boring live, and they don't even play their good stuff anymore.
[/QUOTE]

What do you mean they don't play their good stuff?! I don't know where you got that idea, but they play a huge selection of songs from all periods of their carrer every night (although obvoiusly some are played more often than others).
and if you don't enjoy watching them live don't go and see them, because theres still plenty of people who do.

I'm I the only one who likes 'Octavarium?'

i still think its pretty good they still own most bands out there
panic attack is my personal fave the middle riff and solo sections dominate

[url]http://www.stick.com/method/greg_howard1.wmv[/url]

[url]http://www.stick.com/method/greg_howard2.wmv[/url]

These are chapman stick vids.

And as far as DT 'tributing' other bands, theyve been doing it a while now, at least since TOT and whether you call it a tribute or a ripoff, we are not getting true DT. i wait for the time when DT makes its own music again

LTE, OSI will by my music of choice til then

Those videos are great, but it does look very difficult to play, and it's hardly the kind of thing you're gonna be able to pick up cheap at your local guitar shop and give it a go. But a very cool instrument nevertheless.

8-)

I'm seeing DT tomorrow

who's jealous? ;)

Me :< Whereabouts?

I'm going to see them in Holland ;) Heineken Music Hall, not the biggest palce, but the place is build only for concerts so the sound is superb

Then you are even luckier, although big shows are also quite an experience.

I'm going to see them two nights in a row this month. Yay!

The Glass Prison riff is... oh god.