"You can kill the revolutionary, but you cant kill the revolution"

I don't believe Electric sheep ever recorded anything...

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]I don't believe Electric sheep ever recorded anything...[/QUOTE]

Yeah, to my knowledge they never did, or there's not anything available to say the least. They were in that project as high schoolers, right? I doubt we could get our hands on any of that.

I'm also an RATM fan, but not near as much as Tool.

[QUOTE=In Chains 36]I listened to the CD, the guy actually has a good voice (e.g. Still Day Beneath the Sun) but in songs such as Blackwater Park, he just screams and it really ruins great instrumental songs.[/QUOTE]
The first Opeth songs I listened to were The Funeral Portrait and Blackwater Park. I've never been a fan of death metal vocals, but this was definitely the right band to get me accustomed to that sort of sound. It really threw me off, hearing that amazing progressive metal music paired with death-style vocals, but I was slowly but surely growing to apprecaite them. Once you get passed that, and really let it grow on you, you'll love Opeth. I think they are an amazing band, and I've noticed quite a few fellow Tool fans also taking interest in them.

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]I don't believe Electric sheep ever recorded anything...[/QUOTE]

I really didn't think so, but I figured it was worth asking. heh. Now, could somebody please gmail the song RATM did with Tool? Rep ++ if you do :naughty:

[email]spiralout7@gmail.com[/email]

[QUOTE=pigonthewing82]I love RATM, also on the Tool topic nothing like Maynard singing on Know Your Enemy, just one of the many things that makes that song awsome :thumb: .[/QUOTE]
I thought the RATM song that Maynard sang on was called "Revolution".

[QUOTE=In Chains 36]I listened to the CD, the guy actually has a good voice (e.g. Still Day Beneath the Sun) but in songs such as Blackwater Park, he just screams and it really ruins great instrumental songs.[/QUOTE]
I love the screaming, but like i said its not for everyone.

[QUOTE=BlindWriting]I thought the RATM song that Maynard sang on was called "Revolution".[/QUOTE]

The RATM song he was refferring to is actually on a RATM album, where he just does sort of a cameo one line appearance on the song. Revolution is a collaboration of RATM and Tool, minus Adam Jones, I beleive.

BlindWriting,

Fortunately, Keenan appears on both "Revolution" and "Know Your Enemy"

hah, sorry about that copycat post Kombucha 'shroom!
i should have reloaded the page...

::listening to revolution:: what a phenomenal collaboration!

Actually Electric sheep did record a cd, i once saw it at amoeba but i don't remember why i didn't buy it, havent seen it since (and its still killing me that i didn't buy it everytime i remember about it) but there is such a thing as an Electric Sheep record

[url]http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000008958/qid%3D1109225798/sr%3D11-1/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/002-5690872-5158434[/url]

I found their album on Amazon. There wasn't a single review for it or anything.

Ah, thanks for the clarification about the RATM stuff.

Yea I really missed Maynards voice on the RATM Live at the Ollympic Grand. Great album though. You know I hope no sh1tty band does a Tool cover, its so hard to replace his voice.

Haha.

[QUOTE]Originally Posted by [B]In Chains 36 [/B]
I listened to the CD, the guy actually has a good voice (e.g. Still Day Beneath the Sun) but in songs such as Blackwater Park, he just screams and it really ruins great instrumental songs.[/QUOTE]

the growls are some of the best in metal, trust me most death metal growls are alot more difficult to listen to

[QUOTE=pigonthewing82]Yea I really missed Maynards voice on the RATM Live at the Ollympic Grand. Great album though. You know I hope no sh1tty band does a Tool cover, its so hard to replace his voice.[/QUOTE]
I got a video of maynard in that song.
"I got no patience now, so sick of complacence now, sick of, sick of, sick of, sick of, you....." Unfortunately, just after maynard bit, it cuts out for a few seconds into some wierd tv thing, then it goes back to the same gig, and plays bombtrack-without maynard :(

Eh well not to bring the mood down or change topic here but I feel kinda dumb reading all of these lyrical interpretations.. a lot of the things I'm reading I'm thinking, "Huh?" Right now I'd like to just concentrate on the music for myself anyway, not the lyrics because I'm usually wrong anyway.. thinking I'm smarter than I really am maybe, lol. Is it wrong to simply get into the music and ignore the words for awhile? lol

[QUOTE=opeth_oasis]the growls are some of the best in metal, trust me most death metal growls are alot more difficult to listen to[/QUOTE]


You could definitely be right. I'm just not a fan of death metal, likely BECAUSE of the screaming.

Again though, I don't want people to think that I'm completely down on the band though. Their instruments are the pretty close to the apex of music. Amazing music.

[QUOTE=In Chains 36]I just listened to Blackwater Park.

It's too bad, such great music was wasted with garbage vocals.[/QUOTE]

No one trashes Mikael's growls. They are perfectly done. People need to get over harsh vocals because often times, they fit the music perfectly. Learn to appreciate them, it will help you get into a whole new area of music that is excellent.

[QUOTE=Dancin' Man]No one trashes Mikael's growls. They are perfectly done. People need to get over harsh vocals because often times, they fit the music perfectly. Learn to appreciate them, it will help you get into a whole new area of music that is excellent.[/QUOTE]

I don't like most growl singers, but Opeth is one band that the growls IMO suit the music very well, and I can listen to.

[QUOTE=Dancin' Man]No one trashes Mikael's growls. They are perfectly done. People need to get over harsh vocals because often times, they fit the music perfectly. Learn to appreciate them, it will help you get into a whole new area of music that is excellent.[/QUOTE]

No, we don't need to get over them.

I don't like alot of bands because their vocals disgust me, which applies to alot of death and black metal bands. If it sounds like you're regurgitating rather than singing or screaming, it's not good, it's bad.

That being said, I do like alot more bands with harsher vocals than I used to, but that doesn't mean I like all of them.

Has anybody in here ever seen Tool live? I heard they own, please share the it wih us.

yea they do, from what i hear,, ive never seen them either

[QUOTE=The JoZ]No, we don't need to get over them.

I don't like alot of bands because their vocals disgust me, which applies to alot of death and black metal bands. If it sounds like you're regurgitating rather than singing or screaming, it's not good, it's bad.

That being said, I do like alot more bands with harsher vocals than I used to, but that doesn't mean I like all of them.[/QUOTE]


Couldn't have said it better myself. :thumb:

When they tour behind the new album, there's nothing that's stopping me from seeing them. Last time I got the chance, I missed it and I never forgave myself.

Holy Sh!t..new mars volta album is tops...

They are a bti prog like tool...tool fans opinions?

the widow = genius

I like the Mars Volta alot actually. De-loused in the Comatorium is a great album...I'm really looking forward to Frances the Mute

[QUOTE=clearvision]Holy Sh!t..new mars volta album is tops...

They are a bti prog like tool...tool fans opinions?

the widow = genius[/QUOTE]

:eek:

joo live in teh UK? Tis not out till monday.....so you did a baaaad thing :p

My first album taste of TMV starts next tuesday, stupid local music store charges too much for pieces of art, and cheap for pieces of crap...

I just wanted to come hear to show off my nice new avatar:D

[QUOTE=Med57]I saw The Mars Volta live 2 years ago, supporting the Chili Peppers, and I was really disappointed. [/QUOTE]

Took me a while to listen to any of their songs, as when i heard their first 'single', the time sig seemed all out, and it was a bit weird to listen to. But after hearing other snippets and televators, I was convinced there was something there to get into.

And i missed the chance to see them at Rock City. Almost every band who i've seen there have blown me away, so maybe it was fate.....

I really think they are brilliant. I actually have no income and find it difficult to buy cd's i find it annoying. If i had the money or time to get a job i would buy cd's regularly i just don't have the money atm. The UK version is out according to amazon...I got the Japanese version, i didn't touch the leak :)

Anyways i really like De-loused, Inertiac, circatraz and roulette dares are amazing songs.

The vocals are very strong the rest of the band fit around them. I think the guitar is very strange, very chromatic with lots of dischords. But it's cool.

what kinda set does the drummer for tool play?

Sonor

/awaits SFK to return and give the run down on danny's kit

Oh, and i asked one of my female friends if she had an epilady. I still have the hand mark on my face...

:confused: females aye? Another thing to add to the list of conversation no go's...shaving

that list is getting pretty weighty now.

No shaving talk.
No PMT accusing
No musical taste questioning.
No cheesy chat ups
NO MENTION OF WEIGHT

To the guys who thought they found Adam Jones/Tom Morello's Electric Sheep cd, their wrong. Me and my friend researched this a few months ago and found out that theres a band, who did release a cd, in Japan or something that goes by the the name Electric Sheep.

Unrelated to what people are talking about. I was just listening to some older Tool stuff that I havn't put on for a while and I was just thinking how cool it is to see Maynard progress through his music. I'm sure you all know what I mean.

When we first hear Maynard, back in 92' or whatever his songs are full of anger and dark feelings and seem to be a way for him to vent and take chunks out of organised religion. Undertow had the same dark feel to it, of venting off emotions of the past, catharsis if you will. Then as he progresses to understanding his emotions and releasing he choses to grow rather than to hold onto them, in Ænima and around that time, even reflected in his music by having more softer parts. With Lateralus being the latest, and he seems much more calculating and more devoid of emotion, and more spiritual, as well as being more analytical. Which was very interesting. Which makes me wonder what direction he's going to take with the next album in regards to feel and style?

In APC he's obviously taken a direct opposite approach to Lateralus, and gone with feeling and emotion over cold analysing. The emotions seeming more diverse than his Tool work though (possibly).

Personally, I think he'll keep his insightful analysing, yet go back to his more emotional roots, realising that in order to go to the next level, so to speak, you have to "realise" that you are only human. I'm personally hoping for more melody and intensity from him, as well as his usual awesome rhythm. Thoughts?

I love The Mars Volta. De-loused was simply an amazing album. As for Frances the Mute, my opinion has yet to solidify.