Yeah but I didnt find there to be much ping at all with the sweet ride. The ride I have has is good for both so Im not in a big hurry to switch but Im just trying to find my options.

Sweet rides don't have that much ping in comparison to others, they are more blended and versatile. Generally you'll find pingy rides crash like crap, and washy rides crash well because in most cases the washy rides are thinner, and the pingy rides are heavier. Weight and profile are *huge* factors in crashability of rides.

Because the A Customs are thinner and more shimmery they tend to crash well but of course if you dont want that shimmery sound then its harder to find that versatlity. Of course its always tough to find that perfect ride.

It's impossible to find the perfect ride. It can be perfect for a situation, but never perfect. I'd like a ride that has volume capabilities that range from soft as a whisper, to deafeningly loud. I want it to have a perfect ping in the bell, a sharp cut when shanked, a bow that near the bell is ultra-dry and pingy, a lower bow that is the ultimate in controllable wash, and all in a cymbal that has a great crash. I'll never find one.

It's easy to find those sounds in other cymbal series though, there are heavy and thin A Customs, just like there are heavy and thin As.

I have thought of having two rides as well but theres only so much room. I like your idea of having the sweet ride and ping ride.

I'll show you how I'll have it mounted up when I get it set up, I'll post some pics. It actually works spectacularly. It doesn't take up that much room, adds extra sounds and versatility.

Cool man, I look forward to seeing your new setup.

[QUOTE=playwithfire]It dries the cymbal out and adds volume, so yes, there is less wash. Neither 20" or 22" Ping ride is crashable.[/QUOTE]
If you want the sound of a crash being crashed, then no. But if you want the sound of a ride being crashed. ...

That's not usually an enjoyable sound. There's a reason it's called "crashability" not "ride-being-crashed potential". Most rides being crashed sound like gongy pieces of crap, somewhere in between Crash County and Gong Land in it's own little country called Garbage.

[QUOTE=playwithfire]That's not usually an enjoyable sound. There's a reason it's called "crashability" not "ride-being-crashed potential". Most rides being crashed sound like gongy pieces of crap, somewhere in between Crash County and Gong Land in it's own little country called Garbage.[/QUOTE]
Yes, but there are times when a heavy ride can be crashed and that sound can be useful.

take my dry ride for example. 20", medium-heavy, small bell. sounds like crap crashed

take a thin, big bell sweet ride though...and well...thats just a big crash with definition

a HH Heavy ride 22"? how good for rock and some jazz, bossa, blues and maybe punk

[QUOTE=The Dropper]Yes, but there are times when a heavy ride can be crashed and that sound can be useful.[/QUOTE]I can think of one. When you are playing Lateralus, and don't have a nice big gong like Danny Carey.

[QUOTE=playwithfire]I can think of one. When you are playing Lateralus, and don't have a nice big gong like Danny Carey.[/QUOTE]
See? There you go.

:)

[QUOTE=Mike Goes Numb]So I want to replace my crappy 16" ZBT crash.

Crash
Blends as opposed to cut.
Dark.
Medium to long decay.
Good for crash-riding. Not to be confused with playing like a ride.[/QUOTE]

Wow, brain fart. I have no idea why I wrote bright. So basically, I fixed it. Any suggestions?

K Dark crash Thins. My advice still stands.

Wow, Im doing bad tonight, missed that in your last post playwithfire. I'll definetly have to check one of those out. The sample sounds wonderful enough.

Dark crash Medium Thin would be good too, try out the 17" and 19" of each.

Yes, I'd say look more into the Med. Thins if you wanna be crash riding it too. The 17" Thins tend to max out, and peak, and my 19" Thin is like full wash, so you may want a little more definition.

[QUOTE=playwithfire]Dark crash Medium Thin would be good too, try out the 17" and 19" of each.[/QUOTE]
Yes, those are god.

i beleive that it is possible to match a second crash to another one based only on the first cymbal ans i was wondering if this applies to other cymbals, ex. hi-hats from a ride?

if so, which hi-hats would you recommend for;
sabian raw bell dry ride/zildjian k custom ride?

It's about time I got a new crash, my dented/cracked istanbul really just isn't doin it for me. Would saving up for a A Custom medium 18 inch crash be a good choice?

[QUOTE=little_drummer_boy1]i beleive that it is possible to match a second crash to another one based only on the first cymbal ans i was wondering if this applies to other cymbals, ex. hi-hats from a ride?

if so, which hi-hats would you recommend for;
sabian raw bell dry ride/zildjian k custom ride?[/QUOTE]

K Custom Dark Crash 17" or over
K Custom Special Dry Crashes

[QUOTE=yourstruly]It's about time I got a new crash, my dented/cracked istanbul really just isn't doin it for me. Would saving up for a A Custom medium 18 inch crash be a good choice?[/QUOTE]
yes. quite versetile.

[QUOTE=playwithfire]That's not usually an enjoyable sound. There's a reason it's called "crashability" not "ride-being-crashed potential". Most rides being crashed sound like gongy pieces of crap, somewhere in between Crash County and Gong Land in it's own little country called Garbage.[/QUOTE]
just off Thrash-Ride Lane :lol:

[QUOTE=little_drummer_boy1]i beleive that it is possible to match a second crash to another one based only on the first cymbal ans i was wondering if this applies to other cymbals, ex. hi-hats from a ride?

if so, which hi-hats would you recommend for;
sabian raw bell dry ride/zildjian k custom ride?[/QUOTE]

Well, it kinda depends on the music your playing and personal preference, but...

HHX Groove hats
HHX Evolution hats
K Custom Special Dry hats
K Custom Session hats

i would like hats to play with rock - heavy metal but i usually prefer more studio sounding cymbals

new beats

im looking to pick up some new hats,
price range: 100-300 USD
brands: any, no preference
need: versatility, recording ease, use in: metal, jazz, rock anything in between
Size: 14"
anyhelp would be appreciated

aax stage hats