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[QUOTE=guitrguy;15654344]Its not, but they other chemicals are not that detrimental, and if you do have adverse effects it is advised to stop the medication.

Thats why you fix this system, not just end the treatment.

Then why are you so vehement about discrediting it as treatment?


I think you are relying on suspicion to male that point.
That says nothing about the medication itself.

Thats great, but its unfair to discredit treatment A while not providing a better and tested alternative.[/QUOTE]
The other chemicals are definitely detrimental. You don't see the adverse effects right away though. Here's a few though: addiction, tolerances, introducing non-naturally occuring chemicals to a biological system...

Fixing the system includes stopping medicalization though.

Because so many people are so vehement about it being a good method of treatment. Polarization begets polarization.

I'll send you some articles about it if you're interested.

It doesn't need to. If you abuse medication as a society you should be looking at the effects of that medication regardless of whether or not it works as intended. And anti-depressants are one of the most prone to not working like they're supposed to. I forget which one it is...maybe Paxil...but it actually increased suicide rates in teenagers so yeh.

Sorry I don't have the funding to run gigantic social studies to prove that my ideas are superior to the current model, I will no longer think about such things because I don't have the funding to back up my ideas with statistics bs.
[QUOTE=Jom;15654358]Well, I've never dumped on engineers, so of course I'm going to be a little annoyed that you're pissing all over what I am going to start doing in January (not saying you're pissing all over educators, but whatever). I'm with Kage; I think you are confusing psychiatry with psychology. It IS a science that seeks to understand behavior and mental processes and to apply that understanding in the service of human welfare. They study, predict, improve, and explain phenomenon just as much as any "Vince-approved" scientist. There are so many sub-fields in psych (biological, developmental, cognitive, personality, educational, social, etc.), and they oftentimes overlap. Instead of just speculating about why, for instance, people eat as much (or as little) as they do, they look for answers by using the scientific method. They perform experiments and other scientific procedures to systematically gather and analyze information about behavior and mental processes and then base their conclusions and their next questions on the results of these procedures. It may not deal with gravity or accelerometers but it is a science.[/QUOTE]
To be fair I would **** all over a lot of engineering too so I think you're taking it too harshly. The fact of the matter is that when you're relying on data like surveys or studies of human behavior, you have to rely on statistical analysis to evaluate your solutions. There's just too much human error throughout and it's almost impossble to generate equal samples of humans so trying to study them is so sketchy because you can't account for the many other variables.

But you're giving the impression that that's the only kind of research done, and that is not accurate.

[QUOTE=Jom;15654459]But you're giving the impression that that's the only kind of research done, and that is not accurate.[/QUOTE]
But any of the actual scientific work done isn't actual psychology in my mind. When you research the neuron response of the brain to a stimulus, you're a biologist, not a psychologist. I dont know maybe I have a misrepresentation of the field but to my understanding I think my reasoning is solid.

[QUOTE=Jom;15653911]What! Just because it's been around for only a couple hundred years doesn't make it a fake science. It is a science that seeks to understand behavior and mental processes and to apply that understanding in the service of human welfare. They study, predict, improve, and explain phenomenon just as much as a chemist or a physicist.[/QUOTE]

Man, psychologists creep me out.

Zoologists and biologists will dissect a mouse after it's dead to find out how it works.

Psychologists will dissect it while it's still alive. :-/

....5 hours later......


Good God Vince, I'm sure there's things to entertain you on Mill Ave.

[QUOTE=Invicta_Veritas;15654542]....5 hours later......


Good God Vince, I'm sure there's things to entertain you on Mill Ave.[/QUOTE]
I'm distractedly writing an essay =)

I'm going out around 9 so meh.

So who's celebrating Dimebag's death today? Yay, he's dead.

I am

thank ****

I'm listening to The Bad Plus in spite of him.

I'm listening to Manowar because I'm totally indifferent to everything Pantera related.

I'm listening to really talented musicians, in spite of him.

In spite of him why? Dimebag was in two shitty bands but he was still a decent guitarist. The anti-Dimebag thing is almost as offensive as the people who think he's some sort of God.

[quote=Cocaine;15654611] The anti-Dimebag thing is almost as offensive as the people who think he's some sort of God.[/quote]

This^^^.

Which album, Tyler?

You're right, it's more in spite of the people who think he's all AMAZING and stuff.

@Tyler

I may not think Dimebag's a God, but I DO think he is [I]holy[/I]. :lol:

Holy like my pants.

Holey like that chain-mesh vest of yours, huh?

people get jokes itt.

[quote=Riva;15654634]Holey like that chain-mesh vest of yours, huh?[/quote]


Exactly.

[QUOTE=Riva;15654618]Which album, Tyler?[/QUOTE]

Warriors of the World.

I've never really given it much of a listen beyond the (awesome) title track. It's a good enough album, but you can definitely tell this is when the self-parody took over. It's just not metal enough either. I don't listen to Manowar to hear "glory glory hallelujah, hush little baby please dont cry, know your daddy is born to die" or some italian opera. I want ol' fashioned harley-davidson rambo-riffic metal.

I'm finally getting The Absolute Power DVD so I'm prepping for a Manowar night.

I'm listening to God is an Astronaut

I'm an astronaut.

[QUOTE=Anglachel;15654646]I'm listening to God is an Astronaut[/QUOTE]

life is a dancefloor.

P!nk rules.

[QUOTE=Cocaine;15654639]Warriors of the World.

I've never really given it much of a listen beyond the (awesome) title track. It's a good enough album, but you can definitely tell this is when the self-parody took over. It's just not metal enough either. I don't listen to Manowar to hear "glory glory hallelujah, hush little baby please dont cry, know your daddy is born to die" or some italian opera. I want ol' fashioned harley-davidson rambo-riffic metal.

I'm finally getting The Absolute Power DVD so I'm prepping for a Manowar night.[/QUOTE]

Nice nice, and I agree totally with your opinion on [I]Warriors of the World[/I]. There's far too much "bubble-gum" on the album, in my opinion.

[QUOTE=Riva;15654657]Nice nice, and I agree totally with your opinion on [I]Warriors of the World[/I]. There's far too much "bubble-gum" on the album, in my opinion.[/QUOTE]

Had I given this a better listen sooner I totally would've expected Gods of War to be as terrible as it ended up.

I just cant' take all the synthy-build-ups and talk about Valhalla and whatnot.

I just want to drink some brews and enjoy Manowar, I shouldn't have to wait for it to happen. But the title track on this is just too good to ignore. It's up there with the title track off Battle Hymns IMO.

I'm finally listening to The Mantle.

I'm listening to Kashmir (band)

I'm watching the Discovery Channel.

Would you hit this?

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