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big80smullet 12-08-2007 11:51 AM

i defecate on you book of morals!!!

:gr1m:

jelle can we get a gr1m smiley plz

Angmar 12-08-2007 11:52 AM

Yeah, we need more smilies in general!

Neoteric 12-08-2007 11:54 AM

how about an Angmar smilie?

Jom 12-08-2007 11:55 AM

Happy Holidays, Jelle. Don't lose it this time! :)

Angmar 12-08-2007 11:55 AM

[QUOTE=Neoteric;15653335]how about an Angmar smilie?[/QUOTE]

umm... lol

srsly though...

superpeer 12-08-2007 11:57 AM

[QUOTE=Jom;15653339]Happy Holidays, Jelle. Don't lose it this time! :)[/QUOTE]

:lol:!

Where the fu[I]c[/I]k did you find that?

[b][color=red]b4 alpha q ru/16 qt 3.14159?!

PS: I have my ways >_>

-J[/b][/color]

superpeer 12-08-2007 12:06 PM

/brings it back

was it always so illegible? =)

Jom: tell me!

pate 12-08-2007 12:08 PM

Holy **** yes Jelle!

Permanent Solution 12-08-2007 12:09 PM

[QUOTE=guitrguy;15652165]What's the reason to attached why, if you don't believe in a prime mover?[/QUOTE]
If we knew why matter existed there would be entire new fields of science open to us.
[QUOTE=Superpeer;15652409]omg my doctor put me on antidepressants, Vince would be proud.[/QUOTE]
I hope you're joking.

superpeer 12-08-2007 12:09 PM

't is a good day :')

[QUOTE]I hope you're joking.[/QUOTE]

Nope. I hope you're not going to question the genuinity of my sadness. Bitch.

Permanent Solution 12-08-2007 12:10 PM

I am against all drugs so I don't knwo why you think I'd be glad you're doing more.

superpeer 12-08-2007 12:12 PM

[QUOTE=Permanent Solution;15653387]I am against all drugs so I don't knwo why you think I'd be glad you're doing more.[/QUOTE]

Haha, no, Vincey. I haven't smoked weed in two weeks and I plan to cut back on smoking and drinking.

But yeah I was joking about you being happy, I guessed you'd be angry.

Permanent Solution 12-08-2007 12:14 PM

[QUOTE=Superpeer;15653391]Haha, no, Vincey. I haven't smoked weed in two weeks and I plan to cut back on smoking and drinking.

But yeah I was joking about you being happy, I guessed you'd be angry.[/QUOTE]
No but prescription drugs are drugs too silly.

Oh good :)

I'm actually writing a paper right now about the over-medicalization and rationalization of the health industry of America. I'm trying not to write a book.

Actually that's only part of the paper, but my favorite part. The paper thesis is that capitalism is the biggest social problem in America :cool:

Shattered_Future 12-08-2007 12:16 PM

<3 the Superpear.

Sweet, I just realized my infraction is done. I need a new one.

WAFFLEWAFFLEWAFFLEWAFFLEWAFFLEWAFFLEWAFFLEWAFFLEWAFFLEWAFFLEWAFFLEWAFFLE.

superpeer 12-08-2007 12:17 PM

[QUOTE=Permanent Solution;15653402]No but prescription drugs are drugs too silly.

Oh good :)

I'm actually writing a paper right now about the over-medicalization and rationalization of the health industry of America. I'm trying not to write a book.

Actually that's only part of the paper, but my favorite part. The paper thesis is that capitalism is the biggest social problem in America :cool:[/QUOTE]

Yes, I know. I know!

And I don't know if I actually need them, I am sad a lot and have a lot of anxiety, so maybe.

DOWN WITH AMERICAN PIG DOGS GO VINCE!


SF: It's still listed on your profile, you fücker. :mad:

Sleepy 12-08-2007 12:20 PM

[QUOTE=Luc214;15653263]:eek:

Someone needs to bring this up in a debate and part Kent Hovind with his $250,000.[/QUOTE]

That's not totally conclusive and not totally accurate, but really now, how does something like this get ignored while we all talk about sh[size=2]itting[/size]?

Shattered_Future 12-08-2007 12:21 PM

Because shitting is more interesting?

Sleepy 12-08-2007 12:22 PM

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future;15653438]Because shitting is more interesting?[/QUOTE]

Point taken.

Permanent Solution 12-08-2007 12:28 PM

[QUOTE=Superpeer;15653413]Yes, I know. I know!

And I don't know if I actually need them, I am sad a lot and have a lot of anxiety, so maybe.

DOWN WITH AMERICAN PIG DOGS GO VINCE!
[/QUOTE]
Well so here's the problem with clinical depression. A lack of serotonin can be caused by many things, as can a rise. Sure, dumping drugs into your brain can raise the levels, but so can smiling. So I mean unless you're being tested for a chronic lack of the chemical, you're just getting some mass produced solution tht might or might not help you.

A lot of people get sad and a lot of people are anxious, so I mean if you prescribed drugs to everyone who met the definition of "clinical depression" you'd probably have 1/2 the population on drugs, it's stupid. If you have an actual problem with production of serotonin that you can't fix any other way, then fine, that probably could use medication. But the fact of the matter is we don't even test whether or not that's the case.

It sounds stupid, but actively putting forth an effort to be happy can have a huge impact on the levels of serotonin and ths depression in a person. Medicalization is just a convenient way to shift blame and produce an easy solution.

And yeah screw America >:[

superpeer 12-08-2007 12:32 PM

[QUOTE=Permanent Solution;15653464]Well so here's the problem with clinical depression. A lack of serotonin can be caused by many things, as can a rise. Sure, dumping drugs into your brain can raise the levels, but so can smiling. So I mean unless you're being tested for a chronic lack of the chemical, you're just getting some mass produced solution tht might or might not help you.

A lot of people get sad and a lot of people are anxious, so I mean if you prescribed drugs to everyone who met the definition of "clinical depression" you'd probably have 1/2 the population on drugs, it's stupid. If you have an actual problem with production of serotonin that you can't fix any other way, then fine, that probably could use medication. But the fact of the matter is we don't even test whether or not that's the case.

It sounds stupid, but actively putting forth an effort to be happy can have a huge impact on the levels of serotonin and ths depression in a person. Medicalization is just a convenient way to shift blame and produce an easy solution.

And yeah screw America >:[[/QUOTE]

Vince, you're just jealous because you're not special anymore. ):

I don't think you're entirely right, though. I mean, couldn't you have perfect chemicals by nature, but such a crappy life that it would be a major help to take medication to get your life back on track?

You're probably right for the most part, though.

Permanent Solution 12-08-2007 12:38 PM

No that's entirely my point, if you have perfect chemical balances you shouldn't be on medication. As much a pseudo-science psychology is, I'd advocate that over medication. If you have a shitty life, the solution is to improve it, not to take medication and pretend you don't have a bad life.

superpeer 12-08-2007 12:39 PM

lol that's what I'd prefer to do tbh

I don't have the character to work on life

pate 12-08-2007 12:47 PM

[QUOTE=Permanent Solution;15653495]If you have a poopty life, the solution is to improve it, not to take medication and pretend you don't have a bad life.[/QUOTE]

This x1000.

Permanent Solution 12-08-2007 12:48 PM

Well society needs to move forward in understanding larger social problems which cause 1/2 of the population to be depressed or anxious, but at the same time, it is possible to improve your life to some degree by yourself. Hopefully improving it a little bit can give you ties to society at large so that you can be supported in your efforts and then you can actually solve your problems without popping pills.

superpeer 12-08-2007 12:50 PM

There's only so much a psychologist can tell you.

You can have all the theory to meet people and make friends, but still be too shy to do it and hence be lonely and sad. imo.

Permanent Solution 12-08-2007 12:53 PM

[QUOTE=Superpeer;15653537]There's only so much a psychologist can tell you.

You can have all the theory to meet people and make friends, but still be too shy to do it and hence be lonely and sad. imo.[/QUOTE]
Yes, you do have to want to change your life enough to act on theory.

At the same time, introvertedness is mroe rooted in social constructs than any physiological basis, so there should be a greater emphasis on creating the proper social environments to not cultivate problems. But you can't change your social upbringing now, so the only option for someone in your situation would be on an individual basis unfortunately.

Anglachel 12-08-2007 01:10 PM

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future;15653408]<3 the Superpear.

Sweet, I just realized my infraction is done. I need a new one.

WAFFLEWAFFLEWAFFLEWAFFLEWAFFLEWAFFLEWAFFLEWAFFLEWAFFLEWAFFLEWAFFLEWAFFLE.[/QUOTE]
Mine expired a few days ago


I agree with Vince ITT

superpeer 12-08-2007 01:12 PM

[QUOTE=Permanent Solution;15653548]Yes, you do have to want to change your life enough to act on theory.

At the same time, introvertedness is mroe rooted in social constructs than any physiological basis, so there should be a greater emphasis on creating the proper social environments to not cultivate problems. But you can't change your social upbringing now, so the only option for someone in your situation would be on an individual basis unfortunately.[/QUOTE]

True, I wish I would've been more social when I was younger. ):

Now it's all just awkward.

Permanent Solution 12-08-2007 01:16 PM

[QUOTE=Superpeer;15653606]True, I wish I would've been more social when I was younger. ):

Now it's all just awkward.[/QUOTE]

yeah but even if you miss the chance to explore in a safe environment you can still explore.

I mean, yeah, maybe it will be awkward and maybe it will be discomforting at first, but the longer you wait to become socially interated, the harder it will be to do so. Your best bet is to start being more social and learn to live with the discomfort until it's no longer uncomfortable =)

Invicta_Veritas 12-08-2007 01:17 PM

It's way too early to be thinking about this sh[size=2]i[/size]t.


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