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ATM 07-29-2005 09:44 PM

Shows I am considering:

The Doors of the 21st Century featuring Ray Manzarek • Ian Astbury • Robby Krieger
with special guest Robert Mirabal
TUE. AUG. 9
$55.00

New York Dolls
WED. AUG. 10
$35.00

Kings of Leon & Secret Machines
w/ Helio Sequence
THU. AUG. 11
$25.00

DEVO
SUN. AUG. 14
$55.00


Hieroglyphics (feauring Del the Funkee Homosapien, Souls of Mischief, Casual & Pep Love)
w/ Non Phixion • OC (of D.I.T.C.) • Boom Bap Project
TUE. AUG. 16
$18.00

Apocalyptica
MON. SEP. 12
$15.00
Just Announced


Wed Oct 26 JUST ANNOUNCED - MAIN STAGE - 8 PM DOORS
SOCIAL DISTORTION


Fri Oct 28 JUST ANNOUNCED - MAIN STAGE - 8 PM DOORS
ZAK WYLDE'S
BLACK LABEL SOCIETY


SAT SEPT 24- MINUS THE BEAR, THESE ARMS ARE SNAKES, CRITERIA, THE NEW TRUST $12 mainstage 9:30

TUE OCT 4- NADA SURF, SAY HI TO YOUR MOM $13 mainstage 8:30


\m/

Riva 07-29-2005 09:44 PM

[QUOTE=Iai][size=5][B]ATTN - REGARDS MY POLL[/B][/size]

Korn
Rammstein
Green Day
Kyuss
System Of A Down
Tool[/QUOTE]


Korn - Non
Rammstein - Nien
Green Day - Nyett
Kyuss - Indeed
System Of A Down - Ie
Tool - No

Jom 07-29-2005 09:45 PM

[QUOTE=Iai][size=5][B]ATTN - REGARDS MY POLL[/B][/size]

Can I please get some opinions on [the below artists and] whether they should be allowed in or not?

Korn
Rammstein
Green Day
Kyuss
System Of A Down
Tool[/QUOTE]

I say no to all, to be honest. I can foresee fanboyism with Tool (and weren't they part of the metal competition, anyway?), and the others aren't really as modern rock as what I think your competition is looking for. Kyuss and Green Day are "maybes" (I lean towards Kyuss moreso than Green Day), but certainly not SOAD, Rammstein, Korn, or Tool.

$0.02

Iai 07-29-2005 09:46 PM

[QUOTE=HeavyRiva]System Of A Down - Ie[/QUOTE]
That mean yes or no? :confused:

[QUOTE=Jom]I say no to all, to be honest. I can foresee fanboyism with Tool (and weren't they part of the metal competition, anyway?), [/QUOTE]
Oddly enough, no.

ATM 07-29-2005 09:46 PM

Kyuss aren't modern rock, IMO.

Cain 07-29-2005 09:46 PM

[QUOTE=Slug]Shows I am considering:

The Doors of the 21st Century featuring Ray Manzarek • Ian Astbury • Robby Krieger
with special guest Robert Mirabal
TUE. AUG. 9
$55.00

New York Dolls
WED. AUG. 10
$35.00

Kings of Leon & Secret Machines
w/ Helio Sequence
THU. AUG. 11
$25.00

DEVO
SUN. AUG. 14
$55.00


Hieroglyphics (feauring Del the Funkee Homosapien, Souls of Mischief, Casual & Pep Love)
w/ Non Phixion • OC (of D.I.T.C.) • Boom Bap Project
TUE. AUG. 16
$18.00

Apocalyptica
MON. SEP. 12
$15.00
Just Announced


Wed Oct 26 JUST ANNOUNCED - MAIN STAGE - 8 PM DOORS
SOCIAL DISTORTION


Fri Oct 28 JUST ANNOUNCED - MAIN STAGE - 8 PM DOORS
ZAK WYLDE'S
BLACK LABEL SOCIETY


SAT SEPT 24- MINUS THE BEAR, THESE ARMS ARE SNAKES, CRITERIA, THE NEW TRUST $12 mainstage 9:30

TUE OCT 4- NADA SURF, SAY HI TO YOUR MOM $13 mainstage 8:30


\m/[/QUOTE]

Black Label, New York Dolls, or Social Distortion sound good to me. By all means avoid the Doors concert. I've seen them perform their songs with other singers and they are all just so old.

Iai 07-29-2005 09:47 PM

[QUOTE=Iai][size=5][B]ATTN - REGARDS MY POLL[/B][/size]

Okay, as I guess most of you guys will be aware, some bands were a little contentious when it comes to 'modern rock'. Here are the ones that accumulated enough votes to get in, but that still might be hotspots. Can I please get some opinions on whether they should be allowed in or not?

Korn
Rammstein
Green Day
Kyuss
System Of A Down
Tool[/QUOTE]
Quoted for new page.

Kurtz 07-29-2005 09:49 PM

[QUOTE=Cain]I'm going to Tucson, Arizona to visit my girlfriend in four days. :so excited:

Unfortunately, she's gonna wake me up at 5:30 AM to go to her dumb work-out club on at least one of the days I'm there. :-/[/QUOTE]
Meh, Tucson is a pretty boring town anyways.

Shred Danson 07-29-2005 09:49 PM

[QUOTE=RCA]You NEED to hurry up and record something so I can hear it. :D[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I got my other band (the thrash one) on the list for the local band compilation, so yeah, it'll be soon.

Good news, though, my other bandmates are embracing old Children of Bodom and want to adopt more of a style like that instead of It Dies Today, so I'm happy...

Oh, and wrong thread for that (inside joke). :p

ATM 07-29-2005 09:50 PM

[QUOTE=Cain]Black Label, New York Dolls, or Social Distortion sound good to me. By all means avoid the Doors concert. I've seen them perform their songs with other singers and they are all just so old.[/QUOTE]

Yea, plus that show is 55 bucks.

I hear that Zakk really tears it up live, and this is at a small club.

Steerpike 07-29-2005 09:51 PM

Hey, Cain, as long as I'm thinking of it, I turn to you for some advice.

I'm trying to find some (comparitively) easy Satch songs, but am turning up nill so far.

I could also use some songs that would be good for practicing tapping. I'm so dominantly left-handed that it's giving me a lot of problems. The main reason I ask you is because you're the least likely to suggest something like Metallica, since you know my tastes better than that.

Cain 07-29-2005 09:52 PM

[QUOTE=Slug]Yea, plus that show is 55 bucks.

I hear that Zakk really tears it up live, and this is at a small club.[/QUOTE]

My recommendation would easily be for the Black Label show. You're likely to have a drunken headbanging time there, and Zakk is undeniably a top-notch player.

EDIT: Steerpike: Well, Satriani really isn't much of a tapper, to be perfectly honest. He taps about the same amount as he alternate picks, which is just about never these days. The only tapping lick he pulls is really the one where he taps a trill with the side of his pick, holding the edge perpendicular to the fretboard. His legato style is one where his left hand carries all the notes around Holdsworth style, like a "ball of mercury," is how he describes it. It's also my primary soloing influence: slippery slides, position changes, and exclusively hammering on and pulling off are all Satch trademarks.

The first Satch song I learned was "Up in the Sky," off Crystal Planet, because that was based around a killer riff: the solo isn't much to freak out over. After that...I'm not really sure. To be honest, every Satch legato lick became easy after I learned the crazy descending run in "Rubina," because he pretty much reuses that same style of position shifting and playing whenever he embarks on a legato run. "Always with Me, Always with You" has a pathetically easy tapping thing in it, and "Raspberry Jam Delta V" has a REVERSED tapping lick, in which the right hand frets the B note on the G string (fourth fret) and Satch uses his left hand to hammer-tap notes higher up on the G and B strings with the B notes acting as pedal tones. Nice and show-offy.

But Satch is really not a good tapper. A far more virtuosic tapper is Steve Vai, but a ton of his runs are ridiculously convoluted and hard to keep track of. What I tend to do is tap along the scale while I'm doing an average legato thing on the left, so it's like some "super legato" thing. And to be honest, the best example I could give you for this type of thing is probably Reb Beach of the band Winger, or perhaps some Andy Timmons.

Riva 07-29-2005 09:54 PM

[QUOTE=Iai]That mean yes or no? :confused:
[/QUOTE]

It means no, unlettered one!

jpj 07-29-2005 09:56 PM

Iai:

Korn: Nu-METAL
Rammstein: Industrial METAL
Green Day-just no
Kyuss-actually haven't heard them
System Of A Down-again I think they're metal, though they are awesome
Tool-yes

ATM 07-29-2005 09:56 PM

[QUOTE=Cain]My recommendation would easily be for the Black Label show. You're likely to have a drunken headbanging time there, and Zakk is undeniably a top-notch player.[/QUOTE]

Sounds good to me. I havent been to a really heavy show yet, so I am excited.

Lunch 07-29-2005 09:57 PM

Here are my estimated weekly song charts (I don't have an audioscrobbler dealy):
Les Miserables soundtrack: 13,000
Everything else: 0

I have no friends... :upset:

Riva 07-29-2005 09:59 PM

Tool are hard to place. If this was best Modern band in the A&I forum, I'd say, yeah go for it. But the fact is, they aren't completely rock or metal. It's hard. Maybe a yes, though, if they weren't in the metal bands poll.

ATM 07-29-2005 10:00 PM

[QUOTE=Lunch]Here are my estimated weekly song charts (I don't have an audioscrobbler dealy):
Les Miserables soundtrack: 13,000
Everything else: 0

I have no friends... :upset:[/QUOTE]

You should come to some shows with me, man.

Cain 07-29-2005 10:00 PM

Steerpike: Well, Satriani really isn't much of a tapper, to be perfectly honest. He taps about the same amount as he alternate picks, which is just about never these days. The only tapping lick he pulls is really the one where he taps a trill with the side of his pick, holding the edge perpendicular to the fretboard. His legato style is one where his left hand carries all the notes around Holdsworth style, like a "ball of mercury," is how he describes it. It's also my primary soloing influence: slippery slides, position changes, and exclusively hammering on and pulling off are all Satch trademarks.

The first Satch song I learned was "Up in the Sky," off Crystal Planet, because that was based around a killer riff: the solo isn't much to freak out over. After that...I'm not really sure. To be honest, every Satch legato lick became easy after I learned the crazy descending run in "Rubina," because he pretty much reuses that same style of position shifting and playing whenever he embarks on a legato run. "Always with Me, Always with You" has a pathetically easy tapping thing in it, and "Raspberry Jam Delta V" has a REVERSED tapping lick, in which the right hand frets the B note on the G string (fourth fret) and Satch uses his left hand to hammer-tap notes higher up on the G and B strings with the B notes acting as pedal tones. Nice and show-offy.

But Satch is really not a good tapper. A far more virtuosic tapper is Steve Vai, but a ton of his runs are ridiculously convoluted and hard to keep track of. What I tend to do is tap along the scale while I'm doing an average legato thing on the left, so it's like some "super legato" thing. And to be honest, the best example I could give you for this type of thing is probably Reb Beach of the band Winger, or perhaps some Andy Timmons.

EDIT: The reason this question is hard for me to answer is because I've been tapping almost since I started playing, because I don't play with a pick and tapping was the easiest really fast, show-offy thing that I could do. It sounds lame, but I learned about tapping and got my primary chops by learning Van Halen songs like Eruption and Ice Cream Man.

ATM 07-29-2005 10:02 PM

I should really check out some Satriani.

I just tend to get bored with that type of music easily.

Steerpike 07-29-2005 10:04 PM

[QUOTE=Cain]EDIT: Steerpike: Well, Satriani really isn't much of a tapper, to be perfectly honest. He taps about the same amount as he alternate picks, which is just about never these days. The only tapping lick he pulls is really the one where he taps a trill with the side of his pick, holding the edge perpendicular to the fretboard. His legato style is one where his left hand carries all the notes around Holdsworth style, like a "ball of mercury," is how he describes it. It's also my primary soloing influence: slippery slides, position changes, and exclusively hammering on and pulling off are all Satch trademarks.

The first Satch song I learned was "Up in the Sky," off Crystal Planet, because that was based around a killer riff: the solo isn't much to freak out over. After that...I'm not really sure. To be honest, every Satch legato lick became easy after I learned the crazy descending run in "Rubina," because he pretty much reuses that same style of position shifting and playing whenever he embarks on a legato run. "Always with Me, Always with You" has a pathetically easy tapping thing in it, and "Raspberry Jam Delta V" has a REVERSED tapping lick, in which the right hand frets the B note on the G string (fourth fret) and Satch uses his left hand to hammer-tap notes higher up on the G and B strings with the B notes acting as pedal tones. Nice and show-offy.

But Satch is really not a good tapper. A far more virtuosic tapper is Steve Vai, but a ton of his runs are ridiculously convoluted and hard to keep track of. What I tend to do is tap along the scale while I'm doing an average legato thing on the left, so it's like some "super legato" thing. And to be honest, the best example I could give you for this type of thing is probably Reb Beach of the band Winger, or perhaps some Andy Timmons.[/QUOTE]

Well, that helps a little. Guess the best exercise would be to just tap scales until my right-hand digits stop locking up.

I get so tired of having to explain over and over again when people tell me how easy tapping is what it means to be as dominantly left-handed as I am. As soon as I finish explaining, they fall completely silent, leaving me to wonder just what they're thinking.

Corn Dog 07-29-2005 10:05 PM

weenies!

Lunch 07-29-2005 10:08 PM

[QUOTE=Slug]You should come to some shows with me, man.[/QUOTE]

Still have no money.

I'm working on it though, started my job yesterday.

Cain 07-29-2005 10:12 PM

[QUOTE=Steerpike]Well, that helps a little. Guess the best exercise would be to just tap scales until my right-hand digits stop locking up.

I get so tired of having to explain over and over again when people tell me how easy tapping is what it means to be as dominantly left-handed as I am. As soon as I finish explaining, they fall completely silent, leaving me to wonder just what they're thinking.[/QUOTE]

I confess, I don't get it. Why not just play a left-handed guitar? Or not tap? I mean, Gary Moore's left-handed and plays a right-handed guitar, and he's ****ing amazing.

Jom 07-29-2005 10:19 PM

[url]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=372233[/url]

The next round of RMOTM is up and running, for those interested. If you have some spare time, please vote.

ATM 07-29-2005 10:20 PM

Finally got stars, eh?

How many users have them now?

Cain 07-29-2005 10:21 PM

[QUOTE=Slug]Finally got stars, eh?

How many users have them now?[/QUOTE]

Liberi, Simple Man, and Jom have all earned them back. The rest, I think, are all "residue star-holders" who were banned when rep was eliminated.

ATM 07-29-2005 10:22 PM

[QUOTE=Cain]Liberi, Simple Man, and Jom have all earned them back. The rest, I think, are all "residue star-holders" who were banned when rep was eliminated.[/QUOTE]

I have a whopping 130 rep :-/

Tender negging me really brought me down.

jpj 07-29-2005 10:23 PM

[QUOTE=Steerpike]Well, that helps a little. Guess the best exercise would be to just tap scales until my right-hand digits stop locking up.

I get so tired of having to explain over and over again when people tell me how easy tapping is what it means to be as dominantly left-handed as I am. As soon as I finish explaining, they fall completely silent, leaving me to wonder just what they're thinking.[/QUOTE]
So you're left handed, but force yourself to play right handed? That's silly, you should accept your left-handedness.

/is left handed

Cain 07-29-2005 10:24 PM

[QUOTE=Slug]I have a whopping 130 rep :-/

Tender negging me really brought me down.[/QUOTE]

What did he neg you for?

I have 347. Trilemma derepped me "for being a brat" when I was feuding with him in here. I've considered posting in Strum's rep thread, but talking up my own accomplishments just for rep seems stupid. I liked the other rep thread, where people would recommend other users for rep and mods looking at the thread would take care of it. That seemed more honest.


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