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listerine ice cream 09-30-2004 11:31 PM

[QUOTE=BuddyBigsby]Haha, I said he was going to be singing for With Dead Hands Rising, and they would be changing their name to With One Hand Rising. (Wes only has one hand)[/QUOTE]

THATS IT! Wes only has one hand eh? Since when did this come about? And how might I add?

BuddyBigsby 09-30-2004 11:33 PM

A dog bit it off or something, if I remember.

listerine ice cream 09-30-2004 11:33 PM

Mmkay. Is he really going to be singing with them?

BuddyBigsby 09-30-2004 11:34 PM

(See that I edited last post)

No. That was the joke. Because see, he has one hand. So... Oh nevermind.

listerine ice cream 09-30-2004 11:35 PM

Crackerjacks...

BuddyBigsby 09-30-2004 11:48 PM

Shane (or anyone else for that matter), have you heard the new It Dies Today in full yet? I downloaded it because I was weary and I'm not liking it too much.

young, loud and andrew 10-01-2004 05:23 AM

[QUOTE=BuddyBigsby]Shane (or anyone else for that matter), have you heard the new It Dies Today in full yet? I downloaded it because I was weary and I'm not liking it too much.[/QUOTE]

I downloaded it having never heard anything else by them, and I like it. It's not innovative or anything like that, but it's just good metalcore.

By the way, I posted about this a few pages back with the new Fordirelifesake.


Anyone here like Most Precious Blood? I think I'm going to see them in a few weeks at CBGB's.

BuddyBigsby 10-01-2004 11:49 AM

MPB are awesome, real fun live. And you're seeing them in NYC? Oh, that's gonna be nuts man. Their singer owes me a bowl of soup.

young, loud and andrew 10-01-2004 12:46 PM

[QUOTE=BuddyBigsby]MPB are awesome, real fun live. And you're seeing them in NYC? Oh, that's gonna be nuts man. Their singer owes me a bowl of soup.[/QUOTE]


If you didn't know... I live in NYC. I saw MPB in Boston with With Honor and Agnostic Front (I left before them though) over the summer. I wasn't familiar with their music then, and I was there to see With Honor.

I have connections at CBGB's, so I don't have to pay. Should be pretty sweet.

BuddyBigsby 10-01-2004 01:51 PM

[QUOTE=punkerx99]If you didn't know... I live in NYC. I saw MPB in Boston with With Honor and Agnostic Front (I left before them though) over the summer. I wasn't familiar with their music then, and I was there to see With Honor.

I have connections at CBGB's, so I don't have to pay. Should be pretty sweet.[/QUOTE]

I know you're from NYC. That's sweet. If I ever go to New York, you're hookin' a nigga up.

Or else.

young, loud and andrew 10-01-2004 02:02 PM

[QUOTE=BuddyBigsby]I know you're from NYC. That's sweet. If I ever go to New York, you're hookin' a nigga up.

Or else.[/QUOTE]


Will do.

Also, I just started "working" for radiotakeover.com doing interviews/reviews/etc. I'll probably be on the guestlist for any show I want to go to. I might even interview MPB... that would be so cool. I'd be scarred ****less though seeing as it would probably be my first interview.

BuddyBigsby 10-01-2004 02:36 PM

You're writing for radiotakeover?!

*be's jealous*

shane italian 10-01-2004 07:27 PM

[QUOTE=punkerx99]Will do.

Also, I just started "working" for radiotakeover.com doing interviews/reviews/etc. I'll probably be on the guestlist for any show I want to go to. I might even interview MPB... that would be so cool. I'd be scarred ****less though seeing as it would probably be my first interview.[/QUOTE]How old are you?!

young, loud and andrew 10-01-2004 08:21 PM

18 in a few months. I'm not getting paid or anything. I want to be a music journalist for a living (Rolling Stone, hopefully), and I street teamed for RTO all summer. I met one of the head guys at a skate competition when we handed out some stuff for hellfest, and I eventually emailed him and told him I was interested in doing some writing for them if they needed it. They finally set me up with an email address today. And apparently, they can get me on the guestlist if I interview bands.

All in all, I'm ridiculously excited.

p.s.: street teaming for //rto gets you so much free ****. i got the hellfest dvd before it came out, and they just said they were giving us either the new zao or the new ffaf cd's. i don't know which one to pick though. i like 7 ways to scream your name, but i hear the new cd isn't great. also, i'm not a particularly huge zao fan.

deadohiosky9 10-01-2004 08:54 PM

I just recently looked at this thread. Wow. I'm kind of new to Emo, don't know much about it. I'm really into Thursday. And I wanna know how you guys classify them. Emocore? Post hardcore? Also any other good band suggestions that are like Thursday? Sorry if this is a repeat! But I do want to make sure I'm classifying Thursday correctly. Thanks, and this thread is awesome!

Let's Chop Cats! 10-01-2004 08:57 PM

I would say Post-Hardcore, I guess.

For similar bands check out the band The Procedure. It has Thursday's original guitarist who wrote Waiting and supposedely wrote Full Collapse aswell.

deadohiosky9 10-01-2004 09:01 PM

O sweet dude. Thanks.

Let's Chop Cats! 10-01-2004 09:02 PM

[url]http://www.theprocedure.com[/url]

I think you can listen to their whole full length on their site.

deadohiosky9 10-01-2004 09:15 PM

Ya I just checked em out. They are pretty good. Ne wayz I have something I want to ask. What really is the point of categorizing bands so much? Emo is probably the most controversial genre I've come across. I see threads all the time, where ppl r like hating on Emo, and then there are arguments. I don't ever see as much of that in the Metal threads. So why all the arguing? I think Hardcore has too many sub categories though. Although it does make sense, a lot of ppl aren't really very familar with all these sub genres, and just call a band "emo" or "metal". I know I used to do that. I guess I'm just throwing this out there, because I don't see the need to categorize so much.

Let's Chop Cats! 10-01-2004 09:25 PM

You need catagories because you can't put a band like say Terror with a band like Dag Nasty. While they both belong under the umbrella of hardcore, Dag Nasty is more of a Post-Hardcore/Emocore.

NewKindofArmy03 10-01-2004 09:36 PM

every post i've seen you made tonight mentioned dag nasty. i remember liking them, i'll listen to them again.

Let's Chop Cats! 10-01-2004 09:53 PM

I'm hooked.

Dag Nasty and Refused should make children.

listerine ice cream 10-01-2004 09:54 PM

That would be an interesting baby.

BuddyBigsby 10-01-2004 10:26 PM

[QUOTE=punkerx99]18 in a few months. I'm not getting paid or anything. I want to be a music journalist for a living (Rolling Stone, hopefully), and I street teamed for RTO all summer. I met one of the head guys at a skate competition when we handed out some stuff for hellfest, and I eventually emailed him and told him I was interested in doing some writing for them if they needed it. They finally set me up with an email address today. And apparently, they can get me on the guestlist if I interview bands.
[/QUOTE]

Crazy, I thought you were younger. I turn 18 in a week. I was going to go into journalism too, but at the last moment I backed out so now I'm just doing my general ed. I've been reconsidering it lately, but I have no idea what publication I'd like to write for. Definitely not Rolling Stone or Spin or any of the big magazines, because frankly they're just the magazine equivalent of MTV. The only mainstream mags I like are Guitar World and Revolver, but it's pretty dumb to go through college and get my major in Journalism and just hope that I get hired by one of two magazines. I'd love to write for a zine, but there's no way in hell you could live off of that.

BuddyBigsby 10-01-2004 10:32 PM

[QUOTE=deadohiosky9]Ya I just checked em out. They are pretty good. Ne wayz I have something I want to ask. What really is the point of categorizing bands so much? Emo is probably the most controversial genre I've come across. I see threads all the time, where ppl r like hating on Emo, and then there are arguments. I don't ever see as much of that in the Metal threads. So why all the arguing? I think Hardcore has too many sub categories though. Although it does make sense, a lot of ppl aren't really very familar with all these sub genres, and just call a band "emo" or "metal". I know I used to do that. I guess I'm just throwing this out there, because I don't see the need to categorize so much.[/QUOTE]

I was just discussing this with my buddy tonight. It's because... ok, take Death Metal and uh, Polka. Two COMPLETELY different genres. Now, what if you knew what Death Metal was, but almost everyone was referring to Polka as Death Metal? Well that's what the whole emo thing is like. The fact of the matter is that Thursday, From First to Last, The Beautiful Mistake, Senses Fail, etc. etc. are nowhere remotely CLOSE to what emo really is. MTV might tell you that, but it couldn't be further from the truth. Emo is chaotic, basically all screaming or yelling vocals, no pretty singing whatsoever, there's a disregard for melody, it's basically the complete antithesis of what gets called emo by the people on these forums.

Now, since you've never heard real emo (I'm not trying to be mean here), it's easy for you to just say "Oh, why are they getting so worked up?"... well it's because you've never heard it, so to you, in your mind, it doesn't exist. If a person is completely oblivious to something, then it does it exist in their minds? No, it does not. And that is why people freak about people like us that try and tell them what emo really is. Bands like Rites of Spring, Antioch Arrow, Still Life, Indian Summer, not pop-punk with screaming.

deadohiosky9 10-01-2004 10:52 PM

[QUOTE=BuddyBigsby]I was just discussing this with my buddy tonight. It's because... ok, take Death Metal and uh, Polka. Two COMPLETELY different genres. Now, what if you knew what Death Metal was, but almost everyone was referring to Polka as Death Metal? Well that's what the whole emo thing is like. The fact of the matter is that Thursday, From First to Last, The Beautiful Mistake, Senses Fail, etc. etc. are nowhere remotely CLOSE to what emo really is. MTV might tell you that, but it couldn't be further from the truth. Emo is chaotic, basically all screaming or yelling vocals, no pretty singing whatsoever, there's a disregard for melody, it's basically the complete antithesis of what gets called emo by the people on these forums.

Now, since you've never heard real emo (I'm not trying to be mean here), it's easy for you to just say "Oh, why are they getting so worked up?"... well it's because you've never heard it, so to you, in your mind, it doesn't exist. If a person is completely oblivious to something, then it does it exist in their minds? No, it does not. And that is why people freak about people like us that try and tell them what emo really is. Bands like Rites of Spring, Antioch Arrow, Still Life, Indian Summer, not pop-punk with screaming.[/QUOTE]

I totally understand. Thats why I'm reading this thread. I've realized that I've never really listened to emo.

BuddyBigsby 10-01-2004 10:54 PM

Exactly. It's not a bad thing. Kudos to you for being open-minded and not being stubborn about seeing this.

deadohiosky9 10-01-2004 10:58 PM

I can't find any Indian Summer downloads. Do they have a site?

CommieCanada 10-01-2004 11:01 PM

[QUOTE=BuddyBigsby]Exactly. It's not a bad thing. Kudos to you for being open-minded and not being stubborn about seeing this.[/QUOTE]
right on. i love people like him

BuddyBigsby 10-01-2004 11:04 PM

[QUOTE=deadohiosky9]I can't find any Indian Summer downloads. Do they have a site?[/QUOTE]

nah man, they've been broken up for a long time. I don't even think they released anything on CD, it was all vinyl. You should download Soulseek if you plan on checking out bands like Indian Summer, because you're not going to find these bands on Kazaa or WinMX.


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