[QUOTE=Cocaine;15651783]lbum info:
Artist: Bon Jovi
Album: Slippery When Wet
Year: 1999
Label: Island / Mercury
RIAA Radar result:

Warning!

This album was found to have been released by a member of the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA).[/QUOTE]

the riaa can suck my dick. i'll buy the cd eventually

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Can i have the blog?

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I've seen that one before. You should read Richard Dawkin's [I]The God Delusion.[/I]

Or a book by someone who doesn't have an intense agenda. The guy seems more bent on convincing people not to believe than he is in actually having a point.

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Every single Christian is that way!

I suggest everybody who hasn't, read this:
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[QUOTE=Cocaine;15651890]Or a book by someone who doesn't have an intense agenda. The guy seems more bent on convincing people not to believe than he is in actually having a point.[/QUOTE]

Maybe you should read it.

[QUOTE=guitrguy;15651933]Maybe you should read it.[/QUOTE]

I read a bit at a friends house and couldn't take the guy seriously at all.

[QUOTE]# Atheists can be happy, balanced, moral, and intellectually fulfilled.
# Natural selection and similar scientific theories are superior to a "God hypothesis" — the illusion of intelligent design — in explaining the living world and the cosmos.
# Children should not be labelled by their parents' religion. Terms like "Catholic child" or "Muslim child" should make people flinch.
# Atheists should be proud, not apologetic, because atheism is evidence of a healthy, independent mind.[/QUOTE]

According to wikipedia his arguments suck too.

None of that proves anything other than a bias against religion.

Dawkins in a nutshell:

YOU BELIEVE IN GOD? YOU HAVE FAITH? OMFG YOU'RE A ****ING IDIOT WHY CAN'T YOU SEE THE TRUTH IT'S RIGHT ****ING IN FRONT OF YOUR ****ING HEAD.

It's so retarded.

This specifically:
Natural selection and similar scientific theories are superior to a "God hypothesis" — the illusion of intelligent design — in explaining the living world and the cosmos.

WHAT THE FU[font=verdana]CK[/font] DOES NATURAL SELECTION HAVE TO DO WITH THE ORIGIN OF CREATION

of course that could just be some idiot on wikipedia's poor wording.

Intelligent design is not compatible with evolution. Of course he going to think his train of thought is superior. If he didn't why would he believe it.

But Evolution is a faulty and commonly half-hearted theory in the first place. And still doesn't answer where the species that evolved came from in the first place.

I'm a science-leaning question but it doesnt answer everything. Douchebags like Dawkins have to stop being so bent on killing faith for those that have it. Just because he's a miserable cunt-rag doesn't mean he has the right to take anything away from anyone.

Militant Atheism is as annoying as militant Christianity.

[QUOTE=Cocaine;15652044]But Evolution is a faulty and commonly half-hearted theory in the first place. And still doesn't answer where the species that evolved came from in the first place.[/QUOTE]
Thats why its being researched, and yet still is highly supported. Feel free to explain a better theory.
[QUOTE]I'm a science-leaning question but it doesnt answer everything. Douchebags like Dawkins have to stop being so bent on killing faith for those that have it. Just because he's a miserable cunt-rag doesn't mean he has the right to take anything away from anyone.[/QUOTE]

Ad hominem attacks are critical to a well though out argument.

[QUOTE]Ad hominem attacks are critical to a well though out argument.[/QUOTE]
Tell that to every single critical thinking professor and philosopher in the world then.

[QUOTE=Cocaine;15652057]Tell that to every single critical thinking professor and philosopher in the world then.[/QUOTE]

Strawman.

[QUOTE=guitrguy;15652039]Intelligent design is not compatible with evolution. Of course he going to think his train of thought is superior. If he didn't why would he believe it.[/QUOTE]

So what the hell does that have at all to do with the origin of existence?

Having no faith is arguably a sign of lesser intelligence than having faith is.

[QUOTE=i am the robots;15652068]So what the hell does that have at all to do with the origin of existence?[/QUOTE]
Matter in general or life?

[QUOTE=guitrguy;15652061]Strawman.[/QUOTE]

Arguing that a person is faulty rather than their logic is stupid and never, ever, ever crucial to an argument.

And what about Strawman? Odd that you'd mention a diversionary tactic in an attempt to ignore my statement.

You're drawing focus away from the argument in attempt to avoid defending your assertion.

[QUOTE=guitrguy;15652078]You're drawing focus away from the argument in attempt to avoid question.[/QUOTE]

What question was I ignoring?

I said:

[QUOTE]I'm a science-leaning question but it doesnt answer everything. Douchebags like Dawkins have to stop being so bent on killing faith for those that have it. Just because he's a miserable squirrel-rag doesn't mean he has the right to take anything away from anyone.[/QUOTE]

To which you replied:

[QUOTE]Ad hominem attacks are critical to a well though out argument.[/QUOTE]

Which is false and frankly a little silly.

You strayed the argument elsewhere, not me.

[QUOTE=guitrguy;15652074]Matter in general or life?[/QUOTE]

Matter in general and life, lol.

That would be the big bang theory, and its further cyclical models. The author of that passage misspoke.

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cause of page bump.

The Big Bang does not explain the origin of matter.

Okay then. We all know the big bang, care to elaborate on it in any way that disproves the concept of a creator?
[QUOTE=Permanent Solution;15652090]The Big Bang does not explain the origin of matter.[/QUOTE]
:lol: thank you.

I'm not going to address informal fallacy.

[QUOTE=Permanent Solution;15652090]The Big Bang does not explain the origin of matter.[/QUOTE]

Exactly. That's the one thing that you can never, ever account for. And with that, you can just jump back to it being part of intelligent design; not that I would, Im agnostic, leaning towards neither atheism or theism slants of said thought.

[QUOTE]I'm not going to address informal fallacy.[/QUOTE]
Then why would you bring it up? Ad hominem is immature and used only when the arguer has run out of an actual argument. Unless you're Bill O'Reilly and can cut your opponents mic, it's hardly vital to a solid argument, in fact I'd say it's the opposite.