if the art's not printed yet.. they could change the title

I saw an interview with Mike Portnoy during the making of Octavarium, and he was saying how he is really careful not to release details such as album and track titles/lengths, or too much about the music at an early stage. At the time I didn't really see why this was a big deal, but the Tool business has made it perfectly clear. Fans read WAY too much into it, and its absolutely laughable how people are writing off the album, and seem disapointed without hearing a single second of music. After all thats all that really matters.

"A rose by any other name would smell as sweet":smoke:

ill still download a leaked version, or buy it the day of...



I just see my tastes have changed to something a bit more technical. Still top 10 none-the-less

[QUOTE=nowitzki]I saw an interview with Mike Portnoy during the making of Octavarium, and he was saying how he is really careful not to release details such as album and track titles/lengths, or too much about the music at an early stage. At the time I didn't really see why this was a big deal, but the Tool business has made it perfectly clear. Fans read WAY too much into it, and its absolutely laughable how people are writing off the album, and seem disapointed without hearing a single second of music. After all thats all that really matters.

"A rose by any other name would smell as sweet":smoke:[/QUOTE]

No one with half a brain is commenting on the music though.

I know i'm certainly not commenting on the music, or how bad the album will be. Most of are displaying our disappointment if this is the real tracklist, and at how bad the track names are.

What's wrong with that? They're mostly bad track names. The music should be brilliant, but tracknames and album name are all part of the package.

Well, apparently this is a sample someone ripped from a listening party.

[url]http://s50.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1D2LCSWEZ9QFG1PUOVG1DEKIW6[/url]

If that's true, it did sound like a rather sweet 11 seconds.

Industrial sounding, with a weird effect on the drums, I imagine? It could be part of the album, I suppose.

the quality is kinda poop, but is interesting none the less

[QUOTE=nowitzki]
"A rose by any other name would smell as sweet":smoke:[/QUOTE]

Im suprised nobody said that earlier :p

i tend to shy away from ancient anecdotes

Haha, yeah, of course the track names are nowhere near as important as the music itself, but people have every right to complain about crappy track names. I mean, if I went into the store and picked up a Tool album called.. I don't know... "Suck on my Tool", or something, it'd be funny, but it takes away from the whole experience of some hopefully amazing, classic music.

:lol: Suck On My Tool, that would be awesome.

[QUOTE=incubliss]Well, apparently this is a sample someone ripped from a listening party.

[url]http://s50.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1D2LCSWEZ9QFG1PUOVG1DEKIW6[/url][/QUOTE]

hmm heavy

I do personally think though, the name of a song/album makes absolutely no difference to my enjoyment of a piece of music. I mean, if Hooker with a penis wasn't already a song, and was on that tracklist, people would think that was a really stupid name. Which it is, yet is still an awesome song.

^

No, you're right. But if the song name is cool, then an already cool song will be even better according to certain people. People do worry about the tracklist/album name. If there was a Tool song, that was officially called "Razorblade Love" then you'd probably have a lot of fans getting pretty pissed at such a stupid name.

Tool wouldn't ever name something that bad, but you can see where i'm going with it.

[QUOTE=nowitzki]I do personally think though, the name of a song/album makes absolutely no difference to my enjoyment of a piece of music. I mean, if Hooker with a penis wasn't already a song, and was on that tracklist, people would think that was a really stupid name. Which it is, yet is still an awesome song.[/QUOTE]

Hoooker With a Penis fits the song, and it's sarcastic, it's cynical, it's graphic/witty; it's Tool ten years ago.

Tool, since Lateralus seemed to mature a lot, and those new tracknames don't really reflect that completely, IMO. Rosetta Stoned and Lost Keys off the top of my head sounding dumb.

The music itself won't suffer for the tracknames, of course, and as I say, I'm not saying that, I'm just saying track names and album titles are part of the package, and we all have a right to comment on them.

Rosetta Stoned and Lost Keys just so arn't Tool. There's nothing dark about them, or graphic, or spiritual, or interesting.

That did sound pretty heavy, but Tool likes to play a really heavy intro/bridge and go soft for the rest of the song. It sounds good for a s[size=2]h[/size]it 11 second recording.

I'm pretty excited about this album, as I'm sure every other Tool fan is. I was looking for it on slsk but I couldn't find it.

[QUOTE=Shadius]Rosetta Stoned and Lost Keys just so arn't Tool. There's nothing dark about them, or graphic, or spiritual, or interesting.[/QUOTE]

Do you know what they mean? No. So there's no point in commenting on them until you get a context.

That sample was really heavy, and i've just learnt to play Ticks & Leeches over the past couple of days, so i'm pretty excited by this. I'm in a 'heavy' for Tool mood. I'm sure they'll have a really fine mix of soft and hard, like you said. That's what completes the package for me.

[QUOTE=Che Guevara]
I just see my tastes have changed to something a bit more technical. Still top 10 none-the-less[/QUOTE]

What does that have to do with album/track titles?

[QUOTE=Det_Nosnip]What does that have to do with album/track titles?[/QUOTE]


little or nothing actually :lol:

Let's please keep leaks and discussion of them out of this thread, folks.

[QUOTE=Shadius]Hoooker With a Penis [B]fits the song[/B], and it's sarcastic, it's cynical, it's graphic/witty; it's Tool ten years ago.[/QUOTE]

We haven't heard the music yet, how do you know that all those titles will not fit with the music?

[QUOTE=Kage]Let's please keep leaks [/QUOTE]



you need to shut up about leaks...



REALLY

its all ****ing around, just stop talking about the damn track/album title. It got old quick for me anyway, i ain't gonna believe **** anymore until i have the album cover in my hands and the cd in my cd player on play. as tool said in aenima "believe in nothing." but you could at least take a look for your own health. i posted this and everyone ignored it or they know or you just don't care about something important.


[QUOTE=mudvayne420]hey guys i figured out something pretty intresting if you play lateralus, eon blue apocalypse, and faaip de oiad in order its cool. in like about 24 seconds in eon blue apocalypse, its sounds like the bass ending to lateralus and if you listen really closely in eon blue, in the end you'll hear like static then if you have like cool edit pro or adobe audition then just put in faaip de oiad when it sounds like something started is when eon ends. its cool, but i like the eon lateralus thing.

don't say a thing just give it a listen then tell me you don't hear the similarities, maybe these songs were meant to be together.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=mudvayne420]i posted this and everyone ignored it or they know or you just don't care about something important.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://deepu.eroding.com/board/index.php?showtopic=2185[/url]

yeh i have read that millions of times and also tried it myself but just the transition from lateralus to eons means thats the end of the album actually. i son't know just ****ing try it and see for yourself....

[QUOTE=Kage]Let's please keep leaks and discussion of them out of this thread, folks.[/QUOTE]

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(Havent done that for a while)

You really want to open your christmas present in November, discuss it via an IM, not spamming spoilers.

Anyway, now that we've had album information released, fake or not, I really wish there would be some sort of announcement over these missing UK shows. Download is good, but no sign of the 2 nights in London since they were taken down

Edit: My feelings on 11 second sample leaks are I will listen to them, 11 seconds out of 6 min+ dont give away a lot. My opinion on full song leaks remain the same

if someone decides to put a link for a leak, dont click it. How fukking hard is that?


if you dont like the discussion, change the topic, or leave. Thats all I do

Another short leak:
[url]http://s24.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3KK79AJMLRNVC2KVBVV0XM6YMQ[/url]
sounds more like tool than the other snippet, in my opinion

Eh, I thought the first one was cooler.

All of you pussies need to quit crying about the album name and track titles. Who cares what you deep 16 year old intellectuals think a song should be called? Tool doesn't. Cut off your fingers or keep crying on your keyboard, its all the same.