It's such a perfect match when the movie is in black and white. The CD gives that whole part so much feeling that it doesnt have when its just the movie by itself.

I might have to watch it tomorrow, now.

1) The vinyl doesn't match up nearly as well as the CD - CDs not having been invented in the Seventies, this was either amazing foresight by the band or a simple coincidence

2) The band had a hard enough time writing real soundtracks for short films. The soundtracks for More, Obscured by Clouds and Zabrinski Point were written by Floyd. There were no VCRs back then; the band had to go into a theatre, time a section of the film with a stop watch and then go back to the studio and try and edit it down/up/whatever. Whilst this would be ok with some of the shorter films they did, with full official involvement of the director and all that, it would have been near impossible without.

3)Roger Waters did not have control over the lengths of the songs. The songs for The Dark Side of the Moon were developed during tours in 1972. The tempos were very different during those tours. In particular, "Time" was played much slower. "On the Run" was a guitar jam, bearing no resemblance to what appeared on the album. (In fact, David Gilmour has stated that "On the Run" was written at the very last minute, improvised in the studio.) These early performances of Dark Side do not match the film.

4) Many of the songs came from unstructured jams whilst on tour and many of the instrumental passages were written by Gilmour. To suggest that Waters secretly cut down Gilmours involvement and work simply to make it match up with the film borders on ridiculous. Similarly, The Great Gig In The Sky, which matches up so well, was written almost entirely by Wright, without much involvement from the other members until the final recording.

There's more points as well, but those are some of the main ones. I don't think its anything more than a coincidenece, albeit a fun coincidence.

I havn't tried it, but from what I hear it's basically just timing anyway nothing else really fits.

It probably is a coincidence, its just incredible that it matches up so well.

And actually, I think I heard that side 1 on the album ends and side 2 begins at exactly the moment Dorthy walks into Oz and it turns to color. I dont have the vinyl though, so I dont know if thats true of not.

And ya it's mostly timing, but there are some other parts where the lyrics narrate the film for a bit.

I saw it synched up with money. I thought it was pretty cool, but definitely a coincidence. I saw the 2001: A space oddysey synch-up with echoes though and it's really cool.

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Haha, that's awesome!

Okay I finally got round to visiting the record shop I go to and Ummagumma has been sold:( However I did find The Final Cut, its in good condition except for one mark that could be annoying but it doesnt skip. I havn't listened to it yet but I thought it may interest you floyd fans:thumb:

Too bad, dude, Ummagumma>>>The Final Cut

im not sure i have ummagumma...but i thought i had their entire discography.
guess ill have to check tomorrow

Yer ill bet. But I am still pretty happy.

I think [I]The Final Cut[/I] is better, actually, though it loses points for no Rick. I listen to it more regularly, and songs like Not Now John are just plain awesome.

No Rick? Dammit, I thought he was re-hired after the wall.

Yeah, but only after Waters left. When Roger was gone, Gilmour re-hired him.
So yeah, it was after The Wall, just not immediately after.

Ah ok, so who played keyboards on Final Cut then? Or was Rick session muso again?

:lol: You know, I don't really know who played! I used to, but I'll have to look it up now. If your interested, the biography by Nicholas Schaffner is a great read about Floyd. I learned a lot about just about everything that was going on in the band.

[QUOTE=Riva;13694288]I think [I]The Final Cut[/I] is better, actually, though it loses points for no Rick. I listen to it more regularly, and songs like Not Now John are just plain awesome.[/QUOTE]



I agree. Not to mention, lyrically, The Final Cut is some of Floyds best work.

Or Roger's best work depending on how you view it.

I'm pretty sure Michael Kamen played keys for The Final Cut. He's practically Rick's unofficial replacement for the record. And I [i]love[/i] the album. It's probably my favourite.

And if anyone hasn't already, they should out my review of it :D

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Sorry for being a review whore :( But I like comments :smoke:

The only problem that I find with The Final Cut is that to me most of the songs sound the same. Now of course, I don't mean [B]exactly[/B] the same, but they just seem to have that sound about them.

In conclusion, it's not Pink Floyd's greatest record they put out, but it's enjoyable.

It's what happens after a very long career.

Yeah.

I need to give The Final Cut another listen. I went on a three month break from listening to Floyd ove the summer, and I haven't listened to any of there stuff too much since then.

Rick was session on The Wall, right?

I think The Final Cut gets a bit boring in the middle, but some really stand out tracks are there, and I like the album as a whole a lot more than some of their earlier stuff.


Just as an aside, Michael Kamen has done tons of rock related stuff, as I remember. Metallica, Def Leppard etc.

The Final Cut is like listening to poetry with backing music. Its a lot different than anything else they did.

Pink Floyd was a very influential band, and they had great live shows, but I've never been a real fan of their music.

Songs like "Brain Damage", "Eclipse", etc. are very good, but for the most part I've never really been able to get into their music.

What else have you heard?

I have Dark Side of the Moon and Animals, and I've heard songs from other albums. When they're in full swing and whatnot in songs like the ones I mentioned I think they're good, but the long ten minute spells of weird noises that could be found in many of their tunes turns me off of them.

Just because a song contains weird noises doesnt mean the whole song is weird noises. There is music there.

I've been becoming a big fan of Pink Floyd lately. My favorite release is still WYWH. Currently I only own The Wall, WYWH, and DSOTM, but I've heard the majority of their material.

Next on my list is Meddle and Animals.

Both good choices

I read somewhere that Michael Kamen passed away some time in 2003. Someone back me up on this.

edit: yes, he did

[QUOTE=CardCheat;13705802]I have Dark Side of the Moon and Animals, and I've heard songs from other albums. When they're in full swing and whatnot in songs like the ones I mentioned I think they're good, but the long ten minute spells of weird noises that could be found in many of their tunes turns me off of them.[/QUOTE]

Pink Floyd are the type of band where you can't just hear their songs, you have to actually listen to their music to truly appreciate it. Remove all other possible distractions and immerse yourself in their music and suddenly those "10 minute spells of weird noises" will become so much more than that. Oh, and to truly appreciate Pink Floyd, I find, you almost have to listen to their albums from start to finish. I love the fact that they aren't a singles band.

Yeah, that's what I love about Pink Floyd. You can listen to one of their longer songs such as Dogs or Echoes, and you can just give it a good listen, without any distraction. That's all it takes to appreciate the Pink Floyd sound.

[QUOTE=Leper;13711728]Pink Floyd are the type of band where you can't just hear their songs, you have to actually listen to their music to truly appreciate it. Remove all other possible distractions and immerse yourself in their music and suddenly those "10 minute spells of weird noises" will become so much more than that. Oh, and to truly appreciate Pink Floyd, I find, you almost have to listen to their albums from start to finish. I love the fact that they aren't a singles band.[/QUOTE]

I agree with absolutely everything you say. Too many people shrug off Pink Floyd after only listening to them casually.

Totally. You should listen to them religiously for the best experience.
I love to just turn on my lava lamp and turn on a Floyd album.
Great stuff.

Man, I did that once while listening to Dark Side. It was awesome!

I have listened to Animals in the dark with only the dim lights from my Hi-Fi on. It was pretty cool.

Hey, try listening to Careful With That Axe, Eugene with headphones at night and no lights.

Pink Floyd + Shrooms = Cliched Amazing Experience.

Still haven't tried that.

But yes, Pink Floyd is better when you listen to their entire album at once, instead of picking and choosing a few songs.