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bobby__johnny 12-05-2005 09:50 PM

Mini Chinese - 12" AAX Mini Chinese/12" Wuhan

Chinese - 20" B8 Pro Chinese (and all cymbals are hammered....except for XS20's)

Crash - Hand Hammered Fierce Crash/HHXtreme Crash

eisle89 12-05-2005 09:53 PM

[QUOTE=bobby__johnny]AAX Stages for sure.[/QUOTE]

That will be my birthday present to myself, Thanks

bobby__johnny 12-05-2005 09:56 PM

hmmm...i dont know if i'm getting myself a birthday present or not this year....:confused:

VTDS_xx 12-06-2005 08:48 AM

[QUOTE=bobby__johnny]Mini Chinese - 12" AAX Mini Chinese/12" Wuhan

Chinese - 18" B8 Pro Chinese (and all cymbals are hammered....except for XS20's)

Crash - HHX Stage Crash[/QUOTE]

Or that.

aznriceball 12-06-2005 10:59 AM

anyone want an 18" aax dark crash? :p

VTDS_xx 12-06-2005 11:48 AM

^As a matter of fact.

How much do you want for it? What condition is it in?

Jublian 12-06-2005 07:26 PM

What would be the sabian equivilant of wuhan s series (is there one?)?

playwithfire 12-06-2005 10:50 PM

From what I've heard they don't seem to be all that different from As or AAs.

GooseFilms.net 12-06-2005 10:56 PM

Probably A's, although Wuhans really have a sound of their own.

Jublian 12-06-2005 11:02 PM

ok, scratch that, i'm getting xs20s

playwithfire 12-06-2005 11:08 PM

...May I ask why? The S series would sound better man...

nonsense! 12-07-2005 06:12 AM

Hi. This christmas I'll have been playing drums for 3 years. Right now, the only cymbals I have are b8 hats and a b8 crash ride. I know, it's sad. I'm poor. But I finally have some money to spend! I'm going to buy a sonor 3005 and some cymbals. I really have no idea where to start on cymbals.

When I play in a band, it's either ska or alternative rock. When I jam by myself, it's really everything. I like playing to Tower of Power and Audioslave, also Weezer and Reel Big Fish.

Basically I'm looking for some really versatile cymbals, that sound great. I have no brand loyalty, so throw anything out there. Also, I have no clue what sizes I'd like so don't even try not to include one.

My first purchase will be a crash and a ride, and I'll probably pick up a crash and a splash after that. We'll see.

Help?

DruMMeR_BoY14 12-07-2005 07:10 AM

To take a leaf out of PwF's book, A's are extremly versitile. Crashes - Thin, Medium thin and Medium are all great cymbals, you'd probably want a 17" to 19" crash.

Ride, I can personally reccomend the 20" A Ping, its a great cymbal, good stick definition with fair amount of wash. You could also try the A Rock and A Medium rides, the rock will have less overtonnes than the ping, about the same amount of stick definition. The Medium will be a lot more washy, less stick definition as well.

If you want, you could also check out the Sweet ride. Again, its a washy ride but still has good amount of stick definition and hit it on the edge and it opens up into a great crash.

Splash, go for an A 10". Great splash that can be used in almost any style. If your looking for something a bit darker, look at a K Splash, the Sabian HHX Evo splashes are also pretty nice as well.

Finally when your looking into hats, get either A New Beats or Quickbeats, newbeats are argueably the most versitile hats in production. The Quickbeats are awesome hats as well, either pair will serve you well. Sabian AA Fusions are basicly the same as the quickbeats, they are a nice set of hats, tight sticking.

VTDS_xx 12-07-2005 08:56 AM

[QUOTE=nonsense!]Hi. This christmas I'll have been playing drums for 3 years. Right now, the only cymbals I have are b8 hats and a b8 crash ride. I know, it's sad. I'm poor. But I finally have some money to spend! I'm going to buy a sonor 3005 and some cymbals. I really have no idea where to start on cymbals.

When I play in a band, it's either ska or alternative rock. When I jam by myself, it's really everything. I like playing to Tower of Power and Audioslave, also Weezer and Reel Big Fish.

Basically I'm looking for some really versatile cymbals, that sound great. I have no brand loyalty, so throw anything out there. Also, I have no clue what sizes I'd like so don't even try not to include one.

My first purchase will be a crash and a ride, and I'll probably pick up a crash and a splash after that. We'll see.

Help?[/QUOTE]

You should buy hats, then ride, then crashes, then effects cymbals/more crashes etc. after that.

I'm going to suggest Meinl's 14" Soundwave Medium Hats, 21" Medium Byzance Ride, 17" Medium Thin Byzance Crash.
That'll be your base setup, then you can look into splashes and chinas afterwards.

playwithfire 12-07-2005 10:35 AM

Personally I would recommend a good ride before a good pair of hats, that's a definite.

I would recommend he look into A Zildjians and Sabian AAs.

spirit 12-07-2005 11:50 AM

Well, there are a number of versatile rides. Sabian's HH Raw Bell Dry Ride is a popular choice for a good reason. Any of the A/AA/A Custom/AAX rides are likely to prove very versatile too, as long as they're not too heavy.

The same could to said of hats and crashes, anything from the "A" ranges are likely to be useful in many situations, although you should look at the other ranges.

Really, the best advice I can give is to go to your local drum shop(s) and try out all the hats/rides/crashes to find your favourite sound.

bobby__johnny 12-07-2005 12:13 PM

[QUOTE=playwithfire]Personally I would recommend a good ride before a good pair of hats, that's a definite.

I would recommend he look into A Zildjians and Sabian AAs.[/QUOTE]

i agree to that. i have ****ty ****ty hats that dont sound too bad....but on the other hand, low end rides really show it

rborghino 12-07-2005 12:28 PM

Which should i get!?
The 20" RUDE power ride or the 20" 2002 heavy ride?

playwithfire 12-07-2005 12:36 PM

Rudes are trash imo. 2002s are nice.

Cocaberry 12-08-2005 07:07 AM

I have a Sabian AAX 20" Stage ride in Brilliant Finish. I was wondering which one of these would go best with my ride cymbal:

14" AAX Stage Hats
14" AAX Fast Hats
14" AA Regular Hats

I want to get my new hats in brilliant finish. I don't really know the weights of any of these hats but I am upgrading from regular XS20 hats and the new hats should be at least the same weight or a little heavier. Not too heavy though.

playwithfire 12-08-2005 05:39 PM

They would all fit in just fine dude... considering 2 of them are AAX as well, and the other is AA, which the AAX are based off of. Just get what you like the sound of best.

genesisdrummer91 12-08-2005 07:57 PM

i know i already posted about gettin a new crash, but what about a 17 inch aax studio? i liked it but then id have two thing crashes 16 and 17" wud they be too small or sumthin?

genesisdrummer91 12-08-2005 07:57 PM

i know i already posted about gettin a new crash, but what about a 17 inch aax studio? i liked it but then id have two thin crashes 16 and 17" wud they be too small or sumthin?

Jomofo 12-08-2005 08:23 PM

So update on my cymbal choices...I changed my mind on the ride.
I was going to get the 21" AAX stage ridge. I changed my mind to the 21" raw bell dry ride. It sounds perfect for what I want. One question, does it come in traditional?

playwithfire 12-08-2005 08:35 PM

Not like the Sabian site is so hard to check Mr. Lazy, but yes, it does.

Cocaberry 12-08-2005 10:24 PM

[QUOTE=playwithfire]They would all fit in just fine dude... considering 2 of them are AAX as well, and the other is AA, which the AAX are based off of. Just get what you like the sound of best.[/QUOTE]

The problem is though that I can't decide. They all sound great. The AA's sound a little brighter than the other two though. I was wondering if any of you have a stage ride with any of those pairs of hi hats and what you think about it. I don't really care which of those hats I get cause all those are about the same price at MassMusic and asking around is better than picking them randomly.

playwithfire 12-08-2005 10:25 PM

I'd go with the AAs over the others, and then the AAX Stage model.

bobby__johnny 12-08-2005 10:49 PM

[QUOTE=Cocaberry]The problem is though that I can't decide. They all sound great. The AA's sound a little brighter than the other two though. I was wondering if any of you have a stage ride with any of those pairs of hi hats and what you think about it. I don't really care which of those hats I get cause all those are about the same price at MassMusic and asking around is better than picking them randomly.[/QUOTE]

well, what are you looking for? a general use hi-hat, a precise hat, or a responsive hat?

Tim 12-09-2005 12:38 AM

[QUOTE=Cocaberry]I have a Sabian AAX 20" Stage ride in Brilliant Finish. I was wondering which one of these would go best with my ride cymbal:

14" AAX Stage Hats
14" AAX Fast Hats
14" AA Regular Hats

I want to get my new hats in brilliant finish. I don't really know the weights of any of these hats but I am upgrading from regular XS20 hats and the new hats should be at least the same weight or a little heavier. Not too heavy though.


Thanks,
Eric[/QUOTE]


the stage and the reg hats. they sound so very similar. Pretty much are the same really. i own the stage hats. either way you cant go wrong with those. they are versatile hats so they will basically go with anything

Cocaberry 12-09-2005 04:57 AM

[QUOTE=bobby__johnny]well, what are you looking for? a general use hi-hat, a precise hat, or a responsive hat?[/QUOTE]

A general use hi-hat. BTW, what weight are the stage hats?


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