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Brewer14 09-03-2005 08:30 PM

[QUOTE=Ulysses]If You Want Blood (You've Got It) Liv rips AC/DC Live to pieces in my opinion. Awesome record, once Angus explodes into Riff Raff you don't really look back.[/QUOTE]

That album is so incredible.

IFWB >>>>>>>>>>>> AC/DC Live

Ulysses 09-04-2005 02:36 AM

Yeah, its just so raw and the sound is so punching and powerful. The tracks all seem superior on If You Want Blood than on their respective albums. There isn't a single song that I skip when listening to it.

rippa32 09-04-2005 05:12 AM

I think its a shame that Angus does all his solos except for Let There Be Rock, the same on both studio and live versions of song, theres just something great about improv.

Ulysses 09-04-2005 05:17 AM

Yeah definately, improvisation is just awesome to watch and listen to, you can feel the creative energy. I have grown to accept that he plays all his solo's the same. If I want to listen to improvisation which I really like there are plenty of other bands, especially Jam Bands and other Classic Rock groups.

rippa32 09-04-2005 05:32 AM

Yes I know. Tony Iommi of Sabbath and Ritchie Blackmore of Deep Purple both do alot of improvisation, in studio and live, but even sometimes Iommi does it the same, I always feel let down by that. I find it hard that he can learn it, I just can't learn solos i'm always improvising. I actually tried to write one once, it ended up as improv and ill never be able to repeat it again.

Ulysses 09-04-2005 05:36 AM

Yeah, I've got a similar problem when playing guitar, but I think it comes down to patience and persistence, I can't be bothered learning a solo note for note and it feels better playing something you are making up on the spot whether it be original material or solo's in cover songs.

rippa32 09-04-2005 05:58 AM

That's true I was listening to Highway to Hell today and playing along. Then the solo came up and I just improvised, it was quick, easy and a hell of a lot more fun than that time I treid to learn a Sabbath solo note for note.

Ulysses 09-04-2005 06:02 AM

Yeah exactly, its sweet to get your own groove going, and improvisation comes in very handy for creating your own music as I have found out by experimenting in various keys.

rippa32 09-04-2005 06:27 AM

Experimenting in various keys? Do you mean like changing keys mid solo? I did that once, I stayed on the same fret but changed to differennt pentatonic shapes so effectively I was changing key, It sounded like utter crap but it was fun.

Bon_Scottie 09-04-2005 08:32 AM

Personally, I like the fact that he tends to play the solo's that he recorded for the track.

If we are doing a cover, and the solo sounds easy enough to play, I'll learn it. Gets the song spot on...

Where as, with our own tracks we've written, I'll improvise.

rippa32 09-05-2005 12:24 AM

How long have you guys played the guitar for?

Ulysses 09-05-2005 03:14 AM

[QUOTE=rippa32]Experimenting in various keys? Do you mean like changing keys mid solo? I did that once, I stayed on the same fret but changed to differennt pentatonic shapes so effectively I was changing key, It sounded like utter crap but it was fun.[/QUOTE]

Nah, not mid solo, I've still got a fair way to go to become an accomplished guitar player. I downloaded this CD of Blues in different keys and using the pentatonic shapes just solo over the music. Keys like A, D and G, nothing special.

rippa32 09-05-2005 03:25 AM

Oh yeah Ive got something similair, at the moment Im using it for ear training.

Ulysses 09-05-2005 03:37 AM

Yeah thats basically what I've been doing, they come in very handy for when I get tired of singing and playing songs for my upcoming HSC exams, which I am getting marked on for vocals, its a relief just to experiment a bit.

rippa32 09-05-2005 04:32 AM

We are getting off topic here but explain to me what HSC actually is. Im from Queensland so I do QCS.

Brewer14 09-05-2005 06:10 PM

I wish Angus would improv more. Whenever he does, it's great, but he definitly doesn't do it enough.

rippa32 09-05-2005 09:43 PM

Although hes a great guitarist his improv really isnt too good, thats maybe why he writes stuff note for note.

Ulysses 09-06-2005 03:41 AM

[QUOTE=rippa32]We are getting off topic here but explain to me what HSC actually is. Im from Queensland so I do QCS.[/QUOTE]

The HSC is the Higher School Certificate, from my understanding it's pretty much the equivalent of the QCS. It is assessment tasks with different weightings from Year 11 to the end of Year 12 which go towards the final mark. The bulk of the marks are gained in the Trial HSC and actual HSC, the actual HSC exams begin next at the beginning of next term. The marks go towards a UAI, if you want to get into University you'll need that. For me, I just want to go to art school, I'm not trying all that hard really, I just want to finish.

rippa32 09-06-2005 05:09 AM

Completely different, your school system Is better Ive heard. Our QCS(which Ive done) is basically an IQ test, it is **** and doesnt test anyones ability at school whatsoever.

Ulysses 09-06-2005 06:19 AM

Arr ok, I read in the newspaper the QCS is better than the HSC, doesn't seem like it, but really and honestly its all in the same league, bit of a joke. It's not what the real world is about, exams and so forth. Now rock'n'roll, thats something with a bit of substance to it.

Apocalyptic Raids 09-06-2005 06:23 AM

They should just make it the same across all states.

Ulysses 09-06-2005 06:28 AM

Yeah, it would save confusion when going for a job or university in another state.

Jono9119X 09-06-2005 09:45 PM

do any of yous know if acdc is bringing out another cd anytime soon, or a world tour, any info will be greatly appreciated.

rippa32 09-07-2005 01:34 AM

[QUOTE=Apocalyptic Raids]They should just make it the same across all states.[/QUOTE]

They do, Queensland is the only one not to do it. Anyway back to MUCH more important things, Has anyone got Angus' Signature Guitar?

Bon_Scottie 09-07-2005 01:41 PM

I can only [I]dream[/I] of an Angus signature SG.

Love everything about it, especially the plate.

Brewer14 09-07-2005 01:44 PM

[QUOTE=Jono9119X]do any of yous know if acdc is bringing out another cd anytime soon, or a world tour, any info will be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]

Their new CD should be coming out late this year/early next year

lightningmetal666 09-07-2005 01:47 PM

[QUOTE=rippa32]How long have you guys played the guitar for?[/QUOTE]


I've been playing for three years.


Hey you guys should try playing the intro to thunder struck on your High E or G string. It definitely has a different sound to it.

Follow The Reaper 09-07-2005 01:59 PM

Yeah, different meaning ****i. :)

flipsk8rss 09-07-2005 06:13 PM

[QUOTE=bastardsloth]their music is fun. and they do have occasional talented guitar riff i.e. thunderstruck[/QUOTE]
thunderstruck isnt that hard.

thunderzstruck 09-07-2005 06:34 PM

I learned thunderstruck after like 3 weeks of playing gutar


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