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BeaZ 10-19-2005 06:32 AM

Yeah, I think I've seen it too. I actually like the surgery but I think he was better before it.

guns_n_roses=Slash+Axl 10-19-2005 12:49 PM

[QUOTE=Spat Out Plath]Oh I've seen that picture. It's from sometime after Christmas, I think.[/QUOTE] i belive that that is the one.

Kyle 10-19-2005 01:04 PM

somebody post the picture?

Cipher Hour 10-20-2005 12:19 AM

Updated a few facts on the first page. Expect more updates as more events unfold.

blue3 10-20-2005 05:56 PM

[QUOTE=Cipher Hour]Updated a few facts on the first page. Expect more updates as more events unfold.[/QUOTE]Cool.

I guess no ones gonna post the picture.

SlashHalen 10-20-2005 07:07 PM

Awsome. One of my fave bands and i think you did them jsutice wtih this biography.

Cipher Hour 10-20-2005 07:38 PM

[QUOTE=SlashHalen]Awsome. One of my fave bands and i think you did them jsutice wtih this biography.[/QUOTE]

Thank you very much. I think this thread (other then the Glam Rock/Hair Metal thread) is the only real safe haven to discuss Guns N' Roses around here. Shame their isn't much to discuss though due to all the secrecy and moving around behind-the-scenes with Chinese Democracy.

Kyle 10-21-2005 12:59 PM

I think except the die hard fans everyone has gotten really pissed off with G'n'R. But nobody really flames in FA threads because people put so much effort into them, I remember when you first did this it's a really good read.

Cipher Hour 10-21-2005 01:08 PM

[QUOTE=Kyle]I think except the die hard fans everyone has gotten really pissed off with G'n'R. But nobody really flames in FA threads because people put so much effort into them, I remember when you first did this it's a really good read.[/QUOTE]

Well, I doubt most people care much about GnR anymore (at least, not enough to bother flaming them anymore other then die hard fans that got tired of waiting). I've ceased caring about all that petty stuff because in the end, it's just about the music. If GnR never release another album, so what? I've still got the classics to listen to from time to time to remind me why they're my favourite band. However, I would be a little pissed that Axl dirtied the GnR name with all this Chinese Democracy mess.

Kyle 10-21-2005 01:45 PM

Yeah, In a perfect world I think after the original line up split, Axl should have formed a new band under a new name, that way we could just enjoy the music without having to think about how it's not G'n'R.

I think if Chinese Democracy ever does come out it will be better than Contraband, because I just don't really like VR lyrics at all. That being said I am expecting better things from VR's follow up though.

Cipher Hour 10-21-2005 02:01 PM

Heh, well guys it doesn't bother me that Axl is using the GnR name either, it bothers me that he uses it and then drags it through the mud by not releasing anything after a ridiculous amount of time. For sure if CD comes out it'll blow Contraband out of the water (but then again, that's not exactly a hard thing to do) and I hope for VR's sake they come out with a much better follow up album.

Anyway, on a more positive note (according to recent rumours) Axl has apparently lost the braids. Sad that Axl changing his look is all I really have to say about the band right now other then the other members of the band have been given an order of silence about GnR (and thus have stop answering fan questions).

Kyle 10-21-2005 02:11 PM

I forgot about that site, It's the only one which still posts news really reguarly.

blue3 10-21-2005 04:38 PM

RIP Shannon Hoon. Blind Melon is a good band.

TojesDolan 10-21-2005 04:41 PM

[QUOTE=blue3]RIP Shannon Hoon. Blind Melon is a good band.[/QUOTE]
Another Blind Melon died?

:(

...

Oh wait.

Yeah. Sorry, useless rant. Anyhow, they were good, the happy side of grunge, I guess.

Rage_Against_The_PC 10-21-2005 04:44 PM

[QUOTE=Kyle]

I think if Chinese Democracy ever does come out it will be better than Contraband, because I just don't really like VR lyrics at all. That being said I am expecting better things from VR's follow up though.[/QUOTE]

yeh im looking forward to the next VR album , as for the new G+R album i think its goin to be cack like most people say its a shame im a die hard fan but the band is so different now

blue3 10-21-2005 04:51 PM

Yeah, same here. I'm looking forward to the new Velvet Revolver CD. VR's lyrics are alright, some make no sense though.

3333th post. :)

Cipher Hour 10-21-2005 04:56 PM

[QUOTE=Rage_Against_The_PC]yeh im looking forward to the next VR album , [b]as for the new G+R album i think its goin to be cack like most people say[/b] its a shame im a die hard fan but the band is so different now[/QUOTE]

It depends really on what you're expecting from Axl. If you're expecting more progressive/experimental kind of stuff CD probably won't disappoint (assuming it ever gets released) whereas if you're expecting Appetite For Destruction: The Sequel there's a 100% chance of being disappointed. Although to be honest, I don't think it's going to be nearly as industrial as people think (I think the industrial direction was just a short phase Axl had).

Oh well, can't judge till we see it.

Cipher Hour 10-21-2005 05:21 PM

[QUOTE=Spat Out Plath][url=http://tinypic.com/et9to1.jpg]New picture of Axl[/url] (Not the one previously discussed)[/QUOTE]

:lol:

Ew...Joanie Laurer...

Kyle 10-21-2005 05:47 PM

[QUOTE=Spat Out Plath][url=http://tinypic.com/et9to1.jpg]New picture of Axl[/url] (Not the one previously discussed)[/QUOTE]Breast implants just wouldn't suprise me anymore.

BeaZ 10-22-2005 10:10 PM

[QUOTE=Cipher Hour]It depends really on what you're expecting from Axl. If you're expecting more progressive/experimental kind of stuff CD probably won't disappoint (assuming it ever gets released) whereas if you're expecting Appetite For Destruction: The Sequel there's a 100% chance of being disappointed. Although to be honest, I don't think it's going to be nearly as industrial as people think (I think the industrial direction was just a short phase Axl had).

Oh well, can't judge till we see it.[/QUOTE]I hope he goes in the progressive direction. Personally I'd be dissapointed if they released another album like Appetite, it's an excellent album but I think bands need to evolve and change styles. I guess I'm one of the few that are still really looking forward to this new album.

[QUOTE=Spat Out Plath][url=http://tinypic.com/et9to1.jpg]New picture of Axl[/url] (Not the one previously discussed)[/QUOTE]
:lol:

guns_n_roses=Slash+Axl 10-23-2005 07:37 PM

i also belive the industrial thing was something axl wanted to try but it was only a phase. i am wondering how many places in north america will allow gnr to play in their town. due to the vancover incented back in 2002. i am pretty sure vancover will not be letting gnr come back. it was really the manger on gm place who was responable. axl planed got delayed he was gona be their in 2 hours. they had 3 hours before thye had to play and the gm decided to pulll the plug

Cipher Hour 10-23-2005 07:52 PM

[QUOTE=guns_n_roses=Slash+Axl]i also belive the industrial thing was something axl wanted to try but it was only a phase. i am wondering how many places in north america will allow gnr to play in their town. due to the vancover incented back in 2002. i am pretty sure vancover will not be letting gnr come back. it was really the manger on gm place who was responable. axl planed got delayed he was gona be their in 2 hours. they had 3 hours before thye had to play and the gm decided to pulll the plug[/QUOTE]

Heh, well as far as a tour goes we'll have to wait and see. Let's just wait for an album before we think about that.

lightningmetal666 10-25-2005 01:04 PM

[QUOTE=whatduffhuck7]november rain is top 10 song ever material[/QUOTE]


The video for it is awesome. :thumb:

Cipher Hour 10-25-2005 05:29 PM

[QUOTE=lightningmetal666]The video for it is awesome. :thumb:[/QUOTE]

Agreed. Although the guy jumping into the cake is kinda silly, November Rain is easily one of my favourite songs and music videos of all time.

blue3 10-25-2005 09:45 PM

Hah yeah, what a waste of cake. November Rain is a great video.

So, I just heard Kelly Clarkson's cover of SCOM.. I didn't like it much. Anyone else heard it?

guns_n_roses=Slash+Axl 10-25-2005 09:47 PM

that video is good. and i concure that the guy jumping into the cake was silly. i liked the solo. i was watching a doctumentary on top 100 videos. anyways to the point. when they we doing the solo outisde the church thye had a helicpoter swing in at slash so in salshs mind every take was the last take. can't wait for the new videos from the new album by gnr.

guns_n_roses=Slash+Axl 10-25-2005 09:50 PM

[QUOTE=blue3]Hah yeah, what a waste of cake. November Rain is a great video.

So, I just heard Kelly Clarkson's cover of SCOM.. I didn't like it much. Anyone else heard it?[/QUOTE] I hate this pop artists who think they are rock so they go cover a kick *** song. after realsing it blows. kelly clarkson didn't even write her whole ****ing album. avril lavenge did. sherly crow coverd scom she also did a ****y cover. there is only one band who can do the song write and that is gnr.

blue3 10-25-2005 09:54 PM

[QUOTE=guns_n_roses=Slash+Axl]Qrrr. i hate this pop artists who think they are rock so they go cover a kick *** song. after realsing it it blows. kelly clarkson didn't even wtrike her whole ****ing album. avril lavenge did. sherly crow coverd scom she also did a ****y cover. there is only one band who can do the song write and that is gnr.[/QUOTE]Avril Lavigne did what?

guns_n_roses=Slash+Axl 10-25-2005 09:58 PM

avril lavigne wrote kelly clarkson entire album

blue3 10-25-2005 10:06 PM

[QUOTE=guns_n_roses=Slash+Axl]avril lavigne wrote kelly clarkson entire album[/QUOTE]Um okay.

Doctor Night 10-26-2005 04:49 AM

Lol, his usertitle says 'Embrass the cold'

//

I like Guns and roses, it has just accured to me there is a thread. My favourite stuff is on the appetite for destruction album. I'm not too sure about the rest. I mean 'Knocking on heavens door' was a poor idea in my opinion and I hate november rain. But the rest is good.

Kyle 10-26-2005 06:49 AM

I don't really like the November Rain video all that much to be honest. My favorite video's of theirs are probably It's so Easy and Don't Cry. But I suppose I don't really like their videos in general. Especially the later ones for 'Since I don't have you' etc

Cipher Hour 10-26-2005 02:11 PM

I wish people would stop covering Guns N' Roses songs. So far every GnR cover I've heard blew chunks.

Sheryl Crow's SCOM = Major sucking.
Kelly Clarkson's SCOM = More major sucking.

Anyway, as far as videos go I think their worst were probably Estranged (although I love the song) and Since I Don't Have You. Welcome to the Jungle, Paradise City, It's So Easy, Sweet Child O' Mine, Don't Cry, and November Rain are probably their best videos too. Although in the long run I don't think GnR will be remembered much for making killer videos as they will for making killer music so it doesn't really matter much to me that they made a few bad videos (everybody does).

Regardless, November Rain video was great if only for Stephanie Seymour's wedding dress (which I drooled over the first time I saw the video), Axl's hilarious wardrobe (those jackets were hella funny), and Slash soloing outside of a church.

blue3 10-26-2005 03:19 PM

[quote]Geffen records had immense success with Volume 1 last year despite protests from Alex Rose about its release. An announcement about the official track list is expected soon. [/quote]Right.. Alex Rose.

I hope it's not true.

guns_n_roses=Slash+Axl 10-26-2005 05:10 PM

like wise.

Cipher Hour 10-26-2005 05:16 PM

:eek:

...

God dammit! This pisses me off to no end. Bloody hell, talk about testing one's patience. Another Greatest Hits compilation? Argh, I hope this isn't true...

Cipher Hour 10-26-2005 05:39 PM

As far as I'm concerned about this Greatest Hits Volume 2 bs, there are several possibilities.

1. Since there aren't enough "hits" to constitute 2 albums, it might be a best of (possibly with a new unreleased track thrown in).

2. This is all a big mistake and is completely false.

3. It's Chinese Democracy in disguise.

It occurs to me that this could be CD in disguise (advertising it as something else so as to prevent the album from leaking onto the net). I'm hoping that it's either option 2 or 3 as another "greatest hits" or a "best of" collection is completely redundant and is an obvious cash grab by Geffen to make back some more money they lost on investing in CD.

What do you guys think?

[i]As a side note, Guns N' Roses have done a cover up like this before when the UYI's were announced as Greatest Hits packages.[/i]

lightningmetal666 10-26-2005 06:55 PM

[QUOTE=Spat Out Plath]Avril Lavigne what?

Anyway, I haven't heard her cover of SCOM. I like her voice though, but I don't have very high hopes :-\[/QUOTE]


Its on the soundtrack to adam sandler's movie Big Daddy.

It was so lame that I wanted to cry. They ruined one of my absolute fav. songs with lame @$$ acoustic riffs and even worse vocals. I hope all those stupid pop artist choke to death.

Cipher Hour 10-26-2005 06:59 PM

[QUOTE=lightningmetal666]Its on the soundtrack to adam sandler's movie Big Daddy.

It was so lame that I wanted to cry. They ruined one of my absolute fav. songs with lame @$$ acoustic riffs and even worse vocals. I hope all those stupid pop artist choke to death.[/QUOTE]

That wasn't Avril, that was Sheryl Crow.

guns_n_roses=Slash+Axl 10-26-2005 08:35 PM

[QUOTE]As far as I'm concerned about this Greatest Hits Volume 2 bs, there are several possibilities.

1. Since there aren't enough "hits" to constitute 2 albums, it might be a best of (possibly with a new unreleased track thrown in).

2. This is all a big mistake and is completely false.

3. It's Chinese Democracy in disguise.

It occurs to me that this could be CD in disguise (advertising it as something else so as to prevent the album from leaking onto the net). I'm hoping that it's either option 2 or 3 as another "greatest hits" or a "best of" collection is completely redundant and is an obvious cash grab by Geffen to make back some more money they lost on investing in CD.[/QUOTE]

i realy hope it is number 3 and 2.



as for the sheryl crow covering sweet child o mine. i have said it once and i will not say it again. but i will say this [U]POP ARTISTS SHOULD NOT COVER ROCK SONGS BECAUSE THEY RUINE THEM[/U] if a pop artist decides to cover i am broken by pantera i am gona be [U]supper pissed[/U]

i just hope the album finaly drops then the follow up and so on and so forth.


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