well straight away on Bulls Parade from Evil Empire he didn't use an effect. And in RATM generally alot of his solos were less effects based than in Audioslave.

WRONG. I was ganna mention how he didn't use effects in the bulls one but then I remebered this video clip I saw. Heres exactly how he does it (I saw an interview with him and he showed how he does some of his solos including bulls, guerrilla, and sleep now):

First you turn the bridge pickup volume to 10 and the other to 0 then use the killswitch Technique then you add some "white noise" (he steps on a pedal that was not shown in the video) then he does the scratching...

I'd love to somehow get this video for everyone to see...but have no idea how to.

well the solo wouldn't really be the same or as good if he only stepped on the pedal now would it? :rolleyes:

And the inclusion of the killswitch and scratching is what I'm talking about, his solos in Rage weren't totally reliant on effects.

No, but the solo wouldn't have been as good if he wouldn't have stepped on the pedal... your right man I'm agreeing with you, he needs his effects in audioslave solos more then in rage but I'm just saying that in rage he needed them to.

Audioslave solo without effects - I am the highway (though once live he used a wah and it sounded wicked), Getaway car...those are the only that come to mind I haven't listened to that cd for a while. oh yeah theres show me how to live to he does something with the toggle switch... and the mini solos in Cochise... :thumb:

the intro to Cochise is just slap back delay and muted strings, the solo is just normal playing with a hint of dealy.
And I think I am the highway is just done with delay and a ring modulator or some strange effect.

if you play the bassline to 'bombtrack', and then the bassline to 'cochise', they are stupidly similiar in placing and key...

the majority of Tom's/Tim's riffs are written using the same scale, and in the same key.

Yeah Tom's said it before he's not big on theory. Well more so in audioslave then rage, but still.

tom morelo has some crazy riffs

You don't need theory to be able to use different scales.
I'm not complaining though, from basically 1 scale and 2 tunings Tom's work has never bored me.

Tom Morello can come up with some crazy riffs by only using standard tuning and drop D. He never fails to amaze me.

What I'm saying is he just stays on the same frets and same strings most of the time I'm sure he doesn't care what scale hes useing or what key hes in...though he'll know when notes don't fit or whatever.

In reply to #190

Okay,

lets take gurellia radio( sorry about the spelling if wrong) and look at the lyrics

Transmission third world war third round
A decade of the weapon of sound above ground
No shelter if youre looking for shade
I lick shots at the brutal charade
As the polls close like a casket
On truth devoured
Silent play in the shadow of power
A spectacle monopolized
The cameras eyes on choice disguised
Was it cast for the mass who burn and toil?
Or for the vultures who thirst for blood and oil?
Yes a spectacle monopolized
They hold the reins, stole your eyes
All the fistagons the bullets and bombs
Who stuff the banks
Who staff the party ranks
More for Gore or the son of a drug lord
None of the above **** it cut the cord

Lights out
Guerilla Radio
Turn that **** up
Lights out
Guerilla Radio
Turn that **** up
Lights out
Guerilla Radio
Turn that **** up
Lights out

Guerilla Radio

Contact I highjacked the frequencies
Blockin the beltway
Move on DC
Way past the days of bombin MCs
Sound off Mumia guan be free
Who gottem yo check the federal file
All you pen devils know the trial was vile
Army of pigs try to silence my style
Off em all out that box its my radio dial

Lights out
Guerilla Radio
Turn that **** up
Lights out
Guerilla Radio
Turn that **** up
Lights out
Guerilla Radio
Turn that **** up
Lights out
Guerilla Radio
Turn that **** up

It has to start somewhere
It has to start sometime
What better place than here
What better time than now

All hell cant stop us now
All hell cant stop us now
All hell cant stop us now
All hell cant stop us now
All hell cant stop us now
All hell cant stop us now


To me that sounds like punk

How about we look at [b]F[/b]uck the police


Good Evening,

We want to just quickly send a nice friendly message
to uh, Fraternal Order of Police in Philadelphia.

Here's something nice and friendly,
Here's something nice and friendly,
Here's something nice and friendly,
and it goes something like this.

**** tha police,
Comin straight from the underground.
Young nigga got it bad cuz I'm brown,
And not the other color so police think,
They have the authority to kill a minority.

**** that ****, cuz I ain't tha one,
For a punk mutha ****a with a badge and a gun,
To be beatin on, and throwin in jail.
We could go toe to toe in the middle of a cell.

****in with me cuz I'm a teenager,
With a little bit of gold and a pager.
Searchin my car, lookin for the product.
Thinkin every nigga is sellin narcotics.

You'd rather see me in the pen,
Then me and Lorenzo chilling in the Benzo.
Beat tha police outta shape,
And when I'm finished, bring the yellow tape,
To mark off the scene of the slaughter.
No controller, bread and water.

A young nigga on a warpath,
And when I'm finished, it's gonna be a bloodbath,
Of cops, dyin in L. A.

Yo, I got somethin to say.
**** the police,
Comon! Off, What?
**** the police,
Yeah!
Comon!
**** tha police,
Yeah.


**** The police,
Comin straight from the underground.
Young nigga got it bad cuz I'm brown,
And not the other color so police think,
They have the authority to kill a minority.

**** that ****, cuz I ain't tha one,
For a punk mutha ****a with a badge and a gun,
To be beatin on, and throwin in jail.
We could go toe to toe in the middle of a cell.

****in with me cuz I'm a teenager,
With a little bit of gold and a pager.
Searchin my car, lookin for the product.
Thinkin every nigga is sellin narcotics.

You'd rather see me in the pen,
Then me and Lorenzo chilling in the Benzo.
Beat tha police outta shape,
And when I'm finished, bring the yellow tape,
To mark off the scene of the slaughter.
No controller, bread and water.

I don't know if they fags or what,
Search a nigga down and grabbin in the nuts.
And on the other hand, without a gun they can't get none.
But don't let it be a black and a white one.
Cuz they slam ya down to the street top,
Black police showin out for the white cop.

Yeah, my brothas will swarm,
On any mutha ****a in a blue uniform.
Just cuz we in Washington D.C, punk police are afraid of me.
Hey!

[b]Punk[/b] on a warpath,
And when I'm finished, it's gonna be a bloodbath,
Of cops, dyin in L. A.

Hey yo, We got somethin to say.
**** the police,
Comon, sing that ****,
Right now,
Comon!
Comon!
One more time,
Here we go, here we go,
Comon!
One More, We gotta do it, right now,
Yeah,
Check it out.
Oh I am sorry for the lateness of this reply as well I didn't notice until i checked my rep points

[QUOTE=machinehead1]Didn't Zach go off and fight with Mexico against America or something? That's what a friend told me[/QUOTE]
lol how come that wouldnt surprise anyone if he did.

Dude who said all those lyrics...**** the police isn't there its a cover of NWA.

[QUOTE=HiP-h0p |\|4zi]


[B]To me that sounds like punk[/B]

[/QUOTE]

For something to [I]sound[/I] like punk, wouldnt you actually have to [I]hear[I] it? :confused: Pink Floyd was writing punkish songs lyrically, maybe with a bit more talent, but they were still punk souding. See the entire album "Animals." However, just because something is politically driven doesn't mean it's punk.

Man i gotta venture out of the guitar forums more! i love all of Toms work and for all those that say he only uses the blues scale in D and E, it doesnt matter because the way he uses the notes and timing means his riff never get stale. In terms of albums st>ee>r>bola but i rate all of them over 9/10. Zach left because he saw the VMA insedent as the last straw.

I like BOLA the best personally, Born of a Broken Man is a beautiful song. I'm pretty sure most of their stuff is pentatonic, haven't really dissected it however so I could be wrong.

[QUOTE=DekWannaBFlea]I heard some where that Kashmir by Led Zeppelin and Wake up by Rage have similiarities, are they similar riffs or what?[/QUOTE]
similar yes, but they are not the same, Kashmir has three chords, while Wake Up has two. And thank you for not saying "OMFG RaGe CopIeD ZePPlIn"

[QUOTE=cheesepuff]I like BOLA the best personally, Born of a Broken Man is a beautiful song. I'm pretty sure most of their stuff is pentatonic, haven't really dissected it however so I could be wrong.[/QUOTE]
Born of a broken man is a Fu[COLOR=White]c[/COLOR]ken kick a[COLOR=White]s[/COLOR]s song i puts tingles down my spine.

[QUOTE=Amp'd]Born of a broken man is a Fu[COLOR=White]c[/COLOR]ken kick a[COLOR=White]s[/COLOR]s song i puts tingles down my spine.[/QUOTE]

mos def.

Apparently, RHCP was a huge influence on RATM. You can tell by their styles which intersect (the whole rap/funk/rock thing).

[QUOTE=rhcp pman]Apparently, RHCP was a huge influence on RATM. You can tell by their styles which intersect (the whole rap/funk/rock thing).[/QUOTE]

*cough* fanboy *cough*

[QUOTE=munky_magik]*cough* fanboy *cough*[/QUOTE]

Um... sorry??? Yes, I love RHCP for obvious reasons. I've just discovered RATM recently and I like them. Someone told me that fact and I am not sure if it is true (hence the usage of "apparently"). I'm just happy that someone has a style which is at least a bit similar to RHCP.

It just seems a bit dodgy when you introduce a fact to do with your fav band(presumably) into a discussion on another band that was on a different topic.
My apologies :)

[QUOTE=munky_magik]It just seems a bit dodgy when you introduce a fact to do with your fav band(presumably) into a discussion on another band that was on a different topic.
My apologies :)[/QUOTE]

No worries. I guess it did look dodgy since I also just signed up to this forum (like those fanboys who sign up to every forum on the net and rant about good charlotte). I wasn't sure whether that fact was well known or not. I spend a lot of time on the MTV forums telling off fanchicks. :lol: . I swear that 9/10 people who like Good Charlotte on there are fanchicks who keep saying "G00d chaRl0tTe rox0rz because j0el is h0tT." I hate Good Charlotte, but I despise GC fanchicks who can't constructively appreciate music instead of appearance. meh... fanchicks, fanboys - mostly the same.

same thing just a slight variance in sex :p
One of the things that I like about RATM is how effectively they brought their hip hop/rap and rock/funk influences together and blended them so d[size=2]a[/size]mn well.

If you guys are Zack De La Rocha fans I suggest checking out [url]www.zdlr.net[/url]. Its fan made but its got a great forum...my names RunninFree on there. If your more Tom Morello fans then check out [url]http://www.tommorello.net[/url] whos also fan made and by the same guy as zdlr.

Heres a funny interview I found with Tom shortly after Zack quits.
[url]http://www.metalsludge.tv/main/index.php?module=subjects&func=viewpage&pageid=200[/url]

I read that article. He sounds like a very funny guy. Very liberal, but very funny. :P

I'm listening to their S/T right now. It's so awesome. I realized how much of an underrated song "Fistful of Steel" is. It contains one of the few shred solos Morello has done.

EDIT: After reading Morello's "20 questions" (I always thought it was 21 questions :confused: ) I proceeded to read Zakk Wylde's interview on Metalsludge. Quite the quality human being. :rolleyes:

lol...Tom doesn't seem to be to to fond of Zakk Wylde but in the new guitar world theres a pic of them arm in arm.

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]lol...Tom doesn't seem to be to to fond of Zakk Wylde but in the new guitar world theres a pic of them arm in arm.[/QUOTE]

Things change.

ahhh i just realized im wearing an audio slave t-shirt. I feel so dirty... RIP rage

[QUOTE=kombucha mushroom mofo]For something to [I]sound[/I] like punk, wouldnt you actually have to [I]hear[I] it? :confused: Pink Floyd was writing punkish songs lyrically, maybe with a bit more talent, but they were still punk souding. See the entire album "Animals." However, just because something is politically driven doesn't mean it's punk.[/QUOTE]
Oh [b]f[/b]uck rage is rapcore metal, wtf

I just realized Question 4 of the Twenty Questions interview won't show up for some reason in my browser. Anyone want to tell me what Tom's answer to it was?

I'll just post the whole interview, it's definitely worth while:

Last week Tom emailed Donna Anderson and wrote, "This is Tom Morello from Rage Against the Machine and a friend of mine just turned me on to your most excellent Metal Sludge website. I just love it. Now as a long time fighter for free speech myself I love the open forum you have established on your website." Donna then wrote back to Tom and used her feminine charm to get him to do 20 Questions! Props to Tom for his speedy reply and for having fun with our questions. Enjoy!

1. What are you currently up to? This is your only chance to promote your ****.
Along with Ozzfest headliners System of a Down, I have just established the Axis of Justice, a "freedom school" at each Ozzfest site where fans can go to find information about vital issues of the day. From first-hand help for victims of physical and sexual abuse to efforts to stop the international cycle of violence, heavy metal fans will at long last have the opportunity to save the planet while they're banging their heads. If you are going to Ozzfest this summer, check out the Axis of Justice tent.

2. What's your opinion on the Pledge of Allegiance debate?
Who cares? A bunch of 5 year old kids robotically chanting a prayer of indoctrination to a piece of cloth is so ridiculous to begin with, that any amendment of that propaganda poem one way or another doesn't make any difference to me. Allegiance should be earned, not hypnotized into kids.

3. If you were elected president of the US, what are the first five things you would do?
1. Paint the White House black.
2. Change the National Anthem to "Who Let The Dogs Out".
3. Bring the Bush family up before a War Crimes Tribunal--except those daughters who like to party.
4. Make sure all the girls that wouldn't date me in high school know I'm President.
5. End hunger and stuff.

4. What hard rock heavy metal band should give it up and call it a day?
What hard rock heavy metal band SHOULDN'T give it up and call it a day?

5. Rate the following guitarist from 1-10, with 1 being a hack, and 10 being a virtuoso.
Eddie Van Halen: that dude's probably a 10
Yngwie Malmsteen: I'll give him an 8. He would get higher if he hadn't written those goofy lyrics to "I Am a Viking."
C.C. Deville: 1. Maybe 2 for that amazing accent. Where is that dude from?
Dimebag Darrell: Yipes. He gets a 5 for his hot strip club licks
Zack Wylde: He can "kwaa" with the best of them. He gets a 10 for his "kwaa's", 6.5 for the rest.
Adam Jones: I have to give my old high school buddy a high score. He is quite an innovative player, 8.
Tom Schultz: Boston is a stinky band, but he plays some nice melodies. 4.
Joe Perry: I love that dude. I give him 9.
Kirk Hammet: He's a real nice man, and Metallica certainly knows how to rock it. I'll give him a 7.
Alex Lifeson: He has always been a terrible dresser, but a fine guitar player. 7.
Daron Malakian: He's a very interesting player, and brings that Armenian metal style that the kids all bounce to these days. Join the 7 club.

6. There have been a lot of rumors about the status of Chris Cornell and you guys. Where does Chris currently stand in the band.
He stands in the middle, facing the microphone.

7. You were in a band called Electric Sheep. Electric Sheep? Dude, what exactly were you thinking at that time?
In a world of bands called Limp Bizkit and Hoobastank, Electric Sheep rolls off the tongue like a Shakespearean love sonnet. Leave me alone.

8. How do you feel about the songs you recorded with Chris Cornell being leaked out on the internet?
I'm mad. So mad. Some jackass intern at Bad Animal Studios in Seattle stole some demos and put them on the internet without the band's permission. I'm so mad. They sound nothing like the record, and I can't wait for people to hear the real thing.

9. Do you feel guilty for helping cause the whole rap-metal thing?
Yes. But what's done is done.

10. Yes or no, has Tom Morello ever:
Gone to a Poison concert = Yes, though I didn't pay for it.
Drove drunk = Not as far as the DMV knows.
Had the desire to crash the MTV video awards = Are you kidding?
Sung along to Warrant's "Cherry Pie?" = who hasn't?
Woke up in a puddle of your own urine = Sorry to disappoint you, no.
Bragged to a chick that you went to Harvard to get into her pants = Does that really work? I used to always play the "hey, I'm a big Star Trek fan" card, when I should've been playing the "hey, I'm a bookworm geek" card to get laid. You people know everything.
Stolen a hubcap = Not lately
Paid for sex = I once paid for dinner for two at a Red Lobster and got a lingering hug goodnight. Does this qualify?
Used a racial slur = Does "cracker-*** cracker" count?
Gone to the bathroom in front of a chick = That is what I'm doing right now as I am answering these questions.
Tom on Star Trek
Now we know why he always wears a hat!

11. RATM has strongly backed Mumia Abu-Jamal. However there were three witnesses saying he shot Daniel Faulkner, he admitted doing it at the hospital, the gun was registered to him, and the bullets that killed Faulkner came from Mumia's gun. If Mumia Abu-Jamal didn't kill Daniel Faulkner, who did?
Arnold Beverly. A man who in 1999 confessed to the murder in a sworn affidavit.

12. Do you think that OJ Simpson is also not guilty?
Why? Because he's black? Are you trying race-bait me, you cracker-*** cracker!

13. What rock star deserves a smack in the mouth, and why?
The keyboard player from Rage Against the Machine deserves a smack in the mouth for missing rehearsals for the last 11 years.

14. Rage Against the Machine was supposed to be on Ozzfest, but when Cornell left, you guys got denied. How irritating was that?
That is incorrect. "Rage Against the Machine" was never going to be on Ozzfest. Our new band, with Chris Cornell, was to be on Ozzfest. We then pulled out of Ozzfest for a variety of reasons, and yes, it was tremendously irritating.


15. The last of Tom Morello:
The last movie you saw = Planet of the Apes
The last book you read = Seabiscuit
The last time you told someone "**** you, I won't do what you tell me" = I am screaming that at the top of my lungs as each new question comes up.
The last time you talked to Zack = the day he quit the band
The last time you watched wrestling = the day Zack quit the band
last concert you went to = David Lee Roth and Sammy Hagar
Last rock star you met = David Lee Roth
Last CD you purchased = The Scorpions "Love Drive"
Last lie you told = that wrestling question
last **** you watched = "I Was a Cabin Boy on a Turkish Steamer: The Director's Cut"

16. If you had a gun to your head and had to tour with one 80s hair band, which band would it be?
I'll take my chances with the gun.

17. Do you deserve so much money for such simple work?
Wait a minute, was I supposed to be getting paid for this?

18. What are you so angry about?
I'm still fuming about that OJ question, you cracker-*** cracker!

19. Do you secretly wish that Zack De La Rosa's CD fails miserably?
No, but I do secretly wish that you could spell Zack de la Rocha.

20. Time for Metal Sludge's word association. We mention a name, you give us your thoughts.
Fred Durst = only in America
Britney Spears = I would like a Pepsi, please.
Creed = Can't explain it
The Crocodile Hunter = a great man
Nikki Sixx = another great man
Lars Ulrich = a smaller, Danish great man
Carson Daly = I like that guy
Gene Simmons = Recently he seems to combine the killer instinct of Donald Trump with the horniness of a pubescent teenager from Porky's 2 and that's just how I like him best.
Anthrax = I really like that Scott Ian guy
Tommy Lee = the last time I saw Tommy Lee, he licked the whole side of my face. I later read that when he first met Pamela Anderson, he licked the whole side of her face. Does that mean we too soon will be wed? I nervously watch and wait.
Howard Stern = who gets up that early?

haha, that was great, even though ive read it before.

Where did you find that interview? Anyways, good job on it. :thumb:

[QUOTE]16. If you had a gun to your head and had to tour with one 80s hair band, which band would it be?
I'll take my chances with the gun.

13. What rock star deserves a smack in the mouth, and why?
The keyboard player from Rage Against the Machine deserves a smack in the mouth for missing rehearsals for the last 11 years.[/QUOTE]

My favorite parts. :D

There was a link higher on this page, I beleive. [url]www.metalsludge.com[/url] I'm sure you could search for it there.

Tom Morello is awesome.

Funny guy

I liked the "If he could be president question"

I d do that too