[QUOTE=clearvision]Postcount ++? My argument was already corrected you peenarse. No need for sarcasm![/QUOTE]


Hah. There wasn't any hint of sarcasm in that. I read the correction after I posted it.

[QUOTE=bobthesalesclerk]Yea i was in the same spot you where. We where actually probally sitting pretty close. I have long hair and was wearing a white paiste shirt. . .i was with a dude with red hair, a dude with long blonde hair, and a really hot chick.[/QUOTE]

Dude, no offense but you fit the description of like... everyone else there. Chances are pretty good we saw eachother but I cant remember anything specific. I was kinda watchin the band intetly most of the time (for any moment where maynard would come out of his corner and show himself). Loved that thing maynard was standing behind at the beginning. I think they did that at every show. What did you think of burning bride?? I thought they were alright as compared to other completely ****ty opening bands ive seen. Little too reminiscent of chains-like grunge, though. At least we didnt have to sit through mini-kiss. I heard they blow.

Mini Kiss played? And i missed it. . .****. i thought the burning brides sucked. Even if mini kiss sucked i woulda still loved to see a bunch of midgets in black and white makeup. . .i smoked like an ounce before i went in so i would have laughed extremely hard @ that.

[QUOTE=bobthesalesclerk]Mini Kiss played? And i missed it. . .****. i thought the burning brides sucked. Even if mini kiss sucked i woulda still loved to see a bunch of midgets in black and white makeup. . .i smoked like an ounce before i went in so i would have laughed extremely hard @ that.[/QUOTE]

LOL

[QUOTE=Cicatriz-ESP]I know what the song "Stinkfist" is about, its about Anal Fisting -_0[/QUOTE]

Ewww gross is it really?????!!?? I thought it was Vagina Fisting.

I thought he said Jesus was a ****ing ???? in Sober.

[QUOTE=bobthesalesclerk]Mini Kiss played? And i missed it. . .****. i thought the burning brides sucked. Even if mini kiss sucked i woulda still loved to see a bunch of midgets in black and white makeup. . .i smoked like an ounce before i went in so i would have laughed extremely hard @ that.[/QUOTE]

no they didnt play that night. but they played like every other night on that tour. youre right though, that would have been ****in hilarious. I dint smoke at all, cuz i went with my sister... APC+ :smoke: = :thumb:

[QUOTE=BuzzFreak]Ewww gross is it really?????!!?? I thought it was Vagina Fisting.[/QUOTE]

are you kidding me....

The song is not directly about the traditional interpretation of "fisting" or even fistulas, instead it's using it as an analogy; it's comparing it to the "desensitization" of modern society towards graphic content, as compared to a few decades ago, when censorship was strict ('desensitized to everything/what became of subtlety'). The song is trying to state that in the past, 'something' had to change so that people could be stimulated intellectually. But then constant exposure (or over stimulation) to this material, numbs the person ('this may hurt a little, but it's something you'll get used to'), so that eventually it takes something REALLY graphic or shocking, to affect the person emotionally or intellectually. Hence the 'finger-knuckle-shoulder' analogy; it's saying that now, it takes more than just a little bit of stimulation for people to feel anything. So the shoulder can be considered as the extreme. It would make sense that this song would be referring to censorship, as the song "Hush", from Opiate, also referred to censorship; only, the issue was addressed more directly in "Hush" than it was in "Stinkfist".

its been done before... but im gonna try to muster up some intelligent thought on one of my favorite songs... so here goes!
[I]Song:[/I] [B]Eulogy[/B]
[I]Album:[/I] [B]Ænima[/B]
I see this song as being a rise and fall of a leader of some sort (maybe the media). Most people when they get an idea thats unorthodox get a lot of sarcasm. "He had a lot to say, he had a lot of nothing to say" seems to me to be a really sarcastic statement, although the fact that he is singing it makes it hard to hear the sarcasm. The "We'll miss him" is kinda like an addition to the sarcasm of the previous line, although it's like it's also showing some resentment about the crazy, funny guy leaving and not being able to keep them entertained. "So long, we wish you well. You told us how you weren't afraid to die." At this point its like people are telling him "Yeah, sure, I believe you." "Don't cry, or feel too down" is a message of consolation here. To a point, the masses are sorry for him. "Not all martyrs see divinity, but at least you tried." Basically, you put your mind on the chopping block and they dropped the axe. Not a bad attempt. The next verse is the rising to power point, however, due to his previous rejection, he corrupts the idea he had and makes it impure. "Standing above the crowd, he had a voice that was strong and loud." At this point he finds a way to reach the masses. Nobody is able to ignore him because he's is in your face. "Ranting and pointing his finger at everything but his heart." His message is no longer pure but everybody is taking it now and accepting it. Think of it like a preacher saying "You're going to hell because you're a sinner" when he is blind to his own sin. The "we'll miss him" now isn't a "poor guy" kinda thing, now it's more like some people still dont take his idea. "No way to recall what it was that you had said to me, like I care at all." This is actually the man who has risen to power holding resentment for his rejection. The word recall here doesn't mean remember, instead it means no way to take it back, and now he doesn't care what happens to the people who rejected him. "So loud. You sure could yell. You took a stand on every little thing." Nobody is able to avoid the propaganda this guy is putting out, and whenever someone makes a point that he isn't what he appears to be, he makes a stand and gets defensive about every little thing. People even get to the point of basing their whole lives around this idea of his and try to numb their own existences with it "You could be the one to save me from my own existence" (not written lyrics). When "Standing above the crowd, he had a voice that was strong and loud and I swallowed his façade because im so eager to identify with..." people just take it in and accept it without question (much like pop culture). "Will you? Will you now? Would you die for me? Don't you ****ing lie." People start to question if it's really as good for them as they think it is, and when they find out that the person has been feeding them bull****, they start to say "Don't you step out of line! Don't you ****ing lie!" People start to shove this person aside and when he asks why, they tell him "You claimed all this time that you would die for me. Why then are you so surprised to hear your own eulogy? You had a lot to say, you had a lot of [I]nothing[/I] to say." *shake your head and slowly walk away* They tell him just to give up and go, never come back. "Come down, get off your ****ing cross." They start looking for the next thing to fulfill their stupid desires "We need the ****ing space to nail the next fool martyr. To ascend you must die, you must be crucified, for our sins and our lies. Goodbye!"

and so thats it. i think i remember someone talking about there being no difference between vhs and dvd with salival. there really is... you get the cd with both, but with the vhs version, you dont get the hush video. its only on the dvd. oh and the toology isnt worth 20¢.

[QUOTE=EonBlueApcolyps]are you kidding me....

The song is not directly about the traditional interpretation of "fisting" or even fistulas, instead it's using it as an analogy; it's comparing it to the "desensitization" of modern society towards graphic content, as compared to a few decades ago, when censorship was strict ('desensitized to everything/what became of subtlety'). The song is trying to state that in the past, 'something' had to change so that people could be stimulated intellectually. But then constant exposure (or over stimulation) to this material, numbs the person ('this may hurt a little, but it's something you'll get used to'), so that eventually it takes something REALLY graphic or shocking, to affect the person emotionally or intellectually. Hence the 'finger-knuckle-shoulder' analogy; it's saying that now, it takes more than just a little bit of stimulation for people to feel anything. So the shoulder can be considered as the extreme. It would make sense that this song would be referring to censorship, as the song "Hush", from Opiate, also referred to censorship; only, the issue was addressed more directly in "Hush" than it was in "Stinkfist".[/QUOTE]

This is they way I have always seen it, as it makes more sense. For a song that really is a straight innuendo reference, 4 degrees off Undertow. The song is basically about rear door lurve, as people who understand the title would know. Plus just read some of the lyrics. Although im sure there is still some way to interpret it differently.

Does anyone here know why Tool did the 69 track thing on Undertow? I never understood that.

Ah ok. Thanks.

waaay off subject but does anyone know how to make bmp image as an avatar....Thanks

Convert it to a .Gif

Tweaker (the Doom 3 music) is pretty awesome. More mellow than Tool but good.

I've never been to a tool show. Gauranteed, next time theyre on tour, im front row. I did see APC however. I think a tool show would be a lot different (except for maynard in the dark like he always is). Lets keep this thread going. I wanna hear about experiences at tool concerts from anyone whose gone to any.

Never saw tool but they will definitly be touring within the next 10 months. Cant wait :)

Haven't seen Tool either. When they tour next, I'm definetly going to see them. Their show would be awesome. Their live stuff soudns awesome too. A Tool show wud truly be an awesome experience.

I saw Tool during their Lateralus tour. It was amazing. The opening band was Meshuggah and the crowd got pretty wild during their set. THere was beer being thrown all over the place so I was kinda soaked. I was at the arena extremely early so I was at the very front against the rails...so yep, i had bruises everywhere by the end of the night. Anyway, Tools set was awesome. They opened with Sober and ended with Lateralus, I believe. In between they played Stinkfist, 46&2, Opiate, Schism, Triad(with Meshuggah's drummer), The Grudge, and others (I know that at some point Maynard played guitar). Maynard was in the dark giving his back to the audience(nothing unusual) but nonetheless great! He talked alot about sex and how we should all sit in front of a fireplace, unplug our tv and jack off ourselves into oblivion. When the show was over all four members came to the front of the stage and did a group hug and clapped at the audience. I thought that for sure Maynard would leave immediatly after that but no, he stuck around to throw water bottles, drum sticks, and guitar picks. Oh, that night if I'm not mistaken Maynard made a comment or a joke about a fire. At their previous show the night before they had a little accident and burned their dressing room. Alot of their equipment was damaged. Anyway, AWESOME EXPERIENCE!

Still haven't seen them, missed the last 3 oppotunities that I had (2 shows in London and the last Ozzfest they did) due to lack of transport/idiot planning from friends. But when APC played support to the Deftones at Wembly arena, I remember that Maynard said after that he would try and make it a definite next tour venue for whatever band came first. (Although I would prefer it if they would come to nottingham, but rock city seems a bit small for a band as big as they are now)

But although i've seen live videos (thanks to whoever posted the video site link btw :thumb: ) I would like to know, what kind of crowd is a Tool concert like? heavy meal moshers or appreciation crowds like APC ones?

I saw Tool in London in 2001. The crowd was very still and just stood there and listened. There were only 2 crowd surfers (during Parabola). The security guards just stood there yawning, they had no work to do. I've never been to a gig like it before.

[QUOTE=PeEpHoLe_10]Some of you tool fan boys make me sick.
*is a big tool fan*[/QUOTE]

who? what? when? how? & why?

I think he finds some Tool fans nasty to look at. We are an odd buch after all

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]I think he finds some Tool fans nasty to look at. We are an odd buch after all[/QUOTE]

haha very true

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]

But although i've seen live videos (thanks to whoever posted the video site link btw :thumb: ) I would like to know, what kind of crowd is a Tool concert like? heavy meal moshers or appreciation crowds like APC ones?[/QUOTE]


When I attended the concert the crowd was not really what I expected. Too many people were moshing like crazy during "Parabola" and others. There was alot of crowd surfing too. I really thought the crowd would be alot more calm and just really enjoy this concert. I think the only time they calmed down was during "Parabol" and it was probably the only time Maynard faced the audience also. I suppose it was expected from this crowd though. It was the first time a rock band had ever been to this border town in Texas. Alot of people didn't even know who Tool was until then. BUT there were those who actually did know who they were and connected in some way with the band. There was this one guy, I remember, who through the entire set had his hands out as if receiving some kind of power from the band. It was nice. :thumb:

hey guys, this stuff has sparked somethin in me to start listenin to more tool. Any suggestions on songs to download?

Sober, Schism, The Grudge, The Patient, Lateralus, Aenima, Stinkfist, Eulogy, H, Thid Eye, Pu****, Jimmy

[QUOTE=deadohiosky9]Sober, Schism, The Grudge, The Patient, Lateralus, Aenima, Stinkfist, Eulogy, H, Thid Eye, Pu****, Jimmy[/QUOTE]

Hooker With a *****, Parabola, Prison Sex, 4degrees, Triad, Opiate, Forty six and 2, etc

cant forget the balls of satan(die eier von satan)!! and another personal favorite, message to harry manback. oh and faaip de oiad (dont have correct enochian spelling on hand). Whats up with these tracks anyways?? Theyre really weird, but at the same time, I really like em.

btw, thanks to guys who posted concert experiences and feel free to keep em comin.

[QUOTE=BunnYzWillEAtYoU]cant forget the balls of satan(die eier von satan)!! and another personal favorite, message to harry manback. oh and faaip de oiad (dont have correct enochian spelling on hand). Whats up with these tracks anyways?? Theyre really weird, but at the same time, I really like em.
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They are Tools equivilaent of a filler track, but each of them tends to have some hidden meaning, or relevance. And the correct translation is 'Voice of God'

[QUOTE=twiggster] There was this one guy, I remember, who through the entire set had his hands out as if receiving some kind of power from the band. It was nice. :thumb:[/QUOTE]

He had to be high.

I once saw somebody pop some pills and sit cross-legged on a stage for eight hours straight at a club. Pretty trippy.

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]I think he finds some Tool fans nasty to look at. We are an odd buch after all[/QUOTE]

Speak for yourself

*pulls at pretend medallion in ghetto fasion*

Tool's equivalent of filler tracks kick as.s

I was just wondering, how old are most of you guys? I'm 14, and I only know a few Tool fans my age. Most Tool fans I've met in person or online, are older.

[QUOTE=deadohiosky9]Tool's equivalent of filler tracks kick as.s[/QUOTE]

No, they really don't. They are weird for the sake of weird.

Die Eier Von Satan is not bad, and neither is the first Message to Harry Manback.

But the rest of them are garbage.

[QUOTE=deadohiosky9]I was just wondering, how old are most of you guys? I'm 14, and I only know a few Tool fans my age. Most Tool fans I've met in person or online, are older.[/QUOTE]

I'm 19

I'm 15 :) But it seems to me tool appeals to all ages

EDIT : IM actually 16, my birthday was last month :confused: :lol:

Thats true. Tool does appeal to all ages.

18 here. Tool seems to mean different things for different age groups, but usually everyone will attempt to discover the deeper meanings at some point. I first heard them at 16 and just liked the 'freaky' videos. But now i've expanded by reading into their messages, discovering their influences and learning and dissecting the music. It has helped me grow spiritually, and has improved my personality. Anyone else found their lifestyle changed when really digging deeper into their music?

I was very influenced by Tool. I got into them last year. And they really help me sort some things out. Helped me grow spiritually like you siad. Taught me to really think about things for myself. To look at lyrics more closely and carefully, and take something from it. I have learned a good bit from Tool. Thanks Tool.

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD] But now i've expanded by reading into their messages, discovering their influences and learning and dissecting the music. It has helped me grow spiritually, and has improved my personality. Anyone else found their lifestyle changed when really digging deeper into their music?[/QUOTE]

Yeah, same here. I first heard of them when I was 14 and I just liked their unique sound cause I had never heard of any other band like them. Then I saw their videos and loved them cause they were weird. But now, I understand them so much more and I love the fact that their songs can be interpreted in many different ways...and yeah, it deffinitly has helped me grow spiritually as well.