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[QUOTE=Bleeding Through]Hey Merkaba, I don't know if you remember giving me some screaming pointers, but after a few months of experimenting I think I've finally got it. I can growl extremely low comfortably and hit high screams with relative ease as well. The end result is my scream sounds almost exactly like Limp Bizkit's "Counterfeit" and 'Nobody Loves Me'. ( I can scream to almost all of Limp's older stuff, back when Fred still screamed hardcore.)

But in order to do the higher screams I notice I tense up my throat, but I really don't feel any pain and my speaking voice is not affected hours afterwards or even the next day (I'm even able to do some screaming the day after and not have any problems either). But my singing voice gradually sounds a bit grainy after like 4 or 5 songs, but I assume that if I keep building up my scream and keep myself properly hydrated that this will eventually go away?

Thanks Merkaba, you've helped me out greatly already.[/QUOTE]

sounds good...play it by ear and back off when you notice negatives. But do lots of normal singing, and hard non rasp singing. It builds strength faster. And youre gonna have to pull on the cords and other muscles in your throat to hold high screams. So i cant tell you if youre even really tensing up your throat. I mean, you could be using good technique. Who knows at this point. Sounds good so far. Just pay attention to yourself, and dont be afraid to keep going hard.

Yo Merkaba. I made an account thanks to you -_-

Anyway, first off I'd like to say beforehand I appreciate any attention you throw my way and also thanks for putting all this effort in for us vocalists.

Well here's my situation, I've been reading your screaming threads and right now I have a pretty good slipknot-esque scream that doesn't hurt (at all) and it takes a ****load out of me :/ which means I'm out of breath and I can't do it too often because.. I don't have the ''stuff'' (being oxygen or energy or whatever)

Anyway, here is a description of what it feels like. I want your opinion on whether it's good, or any tips or something (you taught me, so your approval would be good, but dont give it if something is wrong.. you know)

Ok well, before I tried screaming I could sing pretty much any linkin park / three days grace type stuff without getting tired, I was singing from my stomach and my technique is good (dads been a singer for 30 years so his tips have been very helpful indeed)

What you're post inspired me to do is this:

Well.. when I sing 'I hate everything about You' by Three Days Grace, and I'm doing the chorus, there is a certain way I alter my voice to distort it, and the distortion / pressure is somewhere around my heart. Let's call this voice altering distortion.. yummy cakes... (-_-)

What I'm doing is Yelling a Note.. the exact same Note that Corey screams, and adding yummy cakes to it.

So far.. does this sound right? What I'm trying right now to do is put less ''voice'' in there so it sounds more ''windy'' right now I'm working on that.. with a bit of success. Sometimes it hurts, but then I sing a high note to remind me what yummy cakes feels like and add it to a more falsetto-ey voice (but i open my throat as if I was gonna sing from my stomach)

Sound on track so far? (please excuse my rather strange analogies n such)

bout to go to work, I'll respond more when i get home. But a new key, thanks to Kristina is to basically practice gargling the note. You can really hit regular notes of any kind pretty well because it doesnt take as much air. This is kinda what i was getting at with my threads but I didnt really want to go into words like glottis and false vocal cords because it would be rather useless. But the area where you gargle is the general area i mean by the back of the throat. Its really just above your cords. See ya.

Hey hey, I'm new to these forums(probably won't post much) but I absolutely love this thread. It's so helpful. But I've also noticed many of the same questions in the threads, so I was wondering if you could classify the screaming a lil' further(volume, rasp, ect.) I understand if it's asking a lil' much, and I see the effort you've put into this, so really, if you don't, I'm sure others, as well as I, won't mind. Anyway, thanks for all the help! I think I've really developped, and have gotten quite an interest for singing/screaming, that I may look into looking for lessons locally. You've been a great help, and have encouraged many young musicians(like myself)! Thanks!

Hey Merkaba,
I'm sure you're loaded with a million other people asking questions; but I think I'm ready to move onto learning another tecnique. :)
I'll be ordering Kristina's book pretty soon, and I'm not sure if it covers these thins, I kind of doubt it. So here goes.

Do you have any advice on either inward screaming or "power falsetto"?
I don't understand inner screaming at all, so if I wanted to seriously attempt to learn that, I would need alot of help.
I somewhat understand how power falsetto works, but I don't really get how to bridge the area between head voice and falsetto, and make those high notes sound so.. full! I'm so used to using my falsetto for screaming now, so it's hard to not scream sometimes when I'm trying to work on it. Lately I've been trying the blank robot face, especially when warming up, to be able to comfortably hit high falsetto notes without tightening the throat like I used to. I can even add a little rasp to my falsetto, without pushing hard at all, but I have to concentrate on not changing it into a scream. Before I was pushing too hard to get the rasp with falsetto... so now I think I'm understanding it more, but now I'm also curious about power falsetto... :)

wtf?
 

ok i stoped singing for a week. and started back to day,
i drunk water and warmed up and sung e's to warm down

and when i started my high notes, my range had gone up.
but when i tryed E2 i couldnt hit it, i could only get G2.

am i turning into a tenor or something?
im certan i was a baritone. or maybe a bass

and my falsetto is high, but when i warm up it gets lower.
and i cant scream like a girl any more.

when i warm down i can hit E2. but when warmed up it's G2
wtf is going on? really

could inward scream's be doing this?

can someone plz help me?

sorry for the bad grammar

[QUOTE=tatsu]Hey hey, I'm new to these forums(probably won't post much) but I absolutely love this thread. It's so helpful. But I've also noticed many of the same questions in the threads, so I was wondering if you could classify the screaming a lil' further(volume, rasp, ect.) I understand if it's asking a lil' much, and I see the effort you've put into this, so really, if you don't, I'm sure others, as well as I, won't mind. Anyway, thanks for all the help! I think I've really developped, and have gotten quite an interest for singing/screaming, that I may look into looking for lessons locally. You've been a great help, and have encouraged many young musicians(like myself)! Thanks![/QUOTE]
Well if you've got a question I'll try to answer it/them. But my point is that there really is no classification of screaming, and its kinda detrimental to think of it that way. The only thing your cords can do is close up and vibrate, or come close to closing up... Thats it. you can "whistle" air through them too, but thats a different story. But all the other things occur after this simple fact. So if you learn to close up the cords alone...then you can get on with adding all of these other affects and whatnot.

Quick question.. Alcohol hurts your vocal cords....... But how?.. Is it because the vocal cords tense up and you hurt them if you talk? So if you only drank alcohol, and didn't use your voice at all, it wouldn't hurt them?

Merkaba,
I know awhile back you were going to try to hit some whistle notes, and eventually did. Could you kind of explain the process or technique you tried in order to get those notes?

[QUOTE=zippcraz1one]ok i stoped singing for a week. and started back to day,
i drunk water and warmed up and sung e's to warm down

and when i started my high notes, my range had gone up.
but when i tryed E2 i couldnt hit it, i could only get G2.

am i turning into a tenor or something?
im certan i was a baritone. or maybe a bass

and my falsetto is high, but when i warm up it gets lower.
and i cant scream like a girl any more.

when i warm down i can hit E2. but when warmed up it's G2
wtf is going on? really

could inward scream's be doing this?

can someone plz help me?

sorry for the bad grammar[/QUOTE]


some one please help me :upset:

[QUOTE=Knifeboy]Quick question.. Alcohol hurts your vocal cords....... But how?.. Is it because the vocal cords tense up and you hurt them if you talk? So if you only drank alcohol, and didn't use your voice at all, it wouldn't hurt them?[/QUOTE]
Take any kind of alcohol and put in on your skin... It will render you dry. Thats the nature of alcohol. So as it is moving through your body and bumping into braincells and killing them, it circulates through the cord vessels as well and drys your cords out...to some extent. So then you go and try to sing and you have to press them together harder for a true seal, and dry cords dont work well in falsetto either. To some extent...again...you might not be able to tell the difference...maybe not for years. But anything that takes moisture away from the cords, including caffeine...typically isnt in your best interest. But I've been consuming alot of it lately...due to work. Its not like if you get drunk and sing, youre gonna do permanent damage...no. But just be aware of whats going on internally.

Just a quick question, has anyone here ever gotten laryngitis from yelling? I seem to have gotten it the other day after yelling a bit...

[QUOTE=Merkaba-1]Take any kind of alcohol and put in on your skin... It will render you dry. Thats the nature of alcohol. So as it is moving through your body and bumping into braincells and killing them, it circulates through the cord vessels as well and drys your cords out...to some extent. So then you go and try to sing and you have to press them together harder for a true seal, and dry cords dont work well in falsetto either. To some extent...again...you might not be able to tell the difference...maybe not for years. But anything that takes moisture away from the cords, including caffeine...typically isnt in your best interest. But I've been consuming alot of it lately...due to work. Its not like if you get drunk and sing, youre gonna do permanent damage...no. But just be aware of whats going on internally.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, that's how I thought it worked...
So this means, in theory, if you drank alcohol, and didn't use your voice untill it had cleared your system, it wouldn't hurt your vocal cords?

[QUOTE=Knifeboy]Yeah, that's how I thought it worked...
So this means, in theory, if you drank alcohol, and didn't use your voice untill it had cleared your system, it wouldn't hurt your vocal cords?[/QUOTE]
Theoretically...and by "dont use your voice" you also mean things not neccesarily about music...such as talking loudly in a bar, ball game, etc.

[QUOTE=Helmet]Just a quick question, has anyone here ever gotten laryngitis from yelling? I seem to have gotten it the other day after yelling a bit...[/QUOTE]
Never had laryngitis or loss my voice ever. Lucky me...even as a child. Now i have blown out my singing voice and been pretty hoarse for two days before.

If its laryngitis this you means you have some infection of the vocal coards. Its hard to tell if its laryngitis or just blown voice unless you go to the doctor. Either way, dont sing or whisper much. And limit talking actually.

[QUOTE=CDoasis]Hey Merkaba,
I'm sure you're loaded with a million other people asking questions; but I think I'm ready to move onto learning another tecnique. :)
I'll be ordering Kristina's book pretty soon, and I'm not sure if it covers these thins, I kind of doubt it. So here goes.

Do you have any advice on either inward screaming or "power falsetto"?
I don't understand inner screaming at all, so if I wanted to seriously attempt to learn that, I would need alot of help.
I somewhat understand how power falsetto works, but I don't really get how to bridge the area between head voice and falsetto, and make those high notes sound so.. full! I'm so used to using my falsetto for screaming now, so it's hard to not scream sometimes when I'm trying to work on it. Lately I've been trying the blank robot face, especially when warming up, to be able to comfortably hit high falsetto notes without tightening the throat like I used to. I can even add a little rasp to my falsetto, without pushing hard at all, but I have to concentrate on not changing it into a scream. Before I was pushing too hard to get the rasp with falsetto... so now I think I'm understanding it more, but now I'm also curious about power falsetto... :)[/QUOTE]

I know absolutely nothing about inward screaming. Some people can do it alot and make it sound good..some cant. So be careful with that...

You just have to be sure youre keeping a relaxed throat when you go through your bridge. It just takes time and practice til you realize when to quit trying to hit full voice. I dont know alot of tecniques for getting the feel of powerfalsetto...other than try to sing the note full voice first...or go for that feel..but then let it flip over into falsetto, and continue to feel both as you sing the note. It will take some muslce coordinations that you might not be aware of...though you've probably yelled at someone before with it, or mimmicked a band with it and didnt know.

[QUOTE=zippcraz1one]ok i stoped singing for a week. and started back to day,
i drunk water and warmed up and sung e's to warm down

and when i started my high notes, my range had gone up.
but when i tryed E2 i couldnt hit it, i could only get G2.

am i turning into a tenor or something?
im certan i was a baritone. or maybe a bass

and my falsetto is high, but when i warm up it gets lower.
and i cant scream like a girl any more.

when i warm down i can hit E2. but when warmed up it's G2
wtf is going on? really

could inward scream's be doing this?

can someone plz help me?

sorry for the bad grammar[/QUOTE]
I dont get it.

Ok, I'm guessing youre counting middle C as C1, and not C4? So You can sing a G2 which is higher than an E2...right? Is this in true voice? But when you warm down you cant hit the E? Is this during your warm down or after it? Please repost and clarify your situation.
[QUOTE=Screamin_Demon_Auz]Merkaba,
I know awhile back you were going to try to hit some whistle notes, and eventually did. Could you kind of explain the process or technique you tried in order to get those notes?[/QUOTE]
Yea...its comming along rather slowly...but way more than back when i posted that. As far as how to do it...its pretty hard to describe...but i pull my cords up like im gonna hit a head voice note....but clamp them together and dont let them vibrate....then push air through them. I'm gonna post a sample when i get one up for that "Range" thread. My cords arent in the best shape these past couple of days due to too much coffee and not enough rest....with work. I was gonna quit the caffeine today for a week or so...but had to get up with only 2 hours sleep...so i gave in.

ok
 

yes im kind of confused by notes one say's that C3 is middle C

and 5 other thing's say's it's not any way i use a tool called pitch practice

witch says C4 is middle C,so im going by that. lol

when im not warmed up i can hit E2 when i am warmed up
the lowest i can go is G2 true voice

the highest i can go true voice is G4 when im warmed up
the highest i can go when im not warmed up is C4 to D4

so i think i use C4 as middle C.

the highest falsetto i can when not warmed up is C6.
the highest falsetto i can get when im warmed up is about G5.

and the less i practice, the higher my range seems to get. wtf?

im dont even know if im pushing from the gut or not.

so basicaly i can hit higher falsetto notes when not warmed up.
and lower falsetto notes when warmed up.

is that good or bad?

i think im loseing my falsetto, its just not as high as it was when i was 15.

and i think that inhaled screams are what's doing this.

and is it supposed to be easy to hit and hold notes

cuz i can hold my tone when im talking and stuff

and im just feeling thats it's way too easy i dont know whats happening

i hope im not turning into a tenor or somthing "if thats even possible"
cuz i like being a baritone.

I really hate hearing my voice on recordings...it seems to lack power, and when I start to sing high notes, I can hear problems with the pitch, and I can hear an annoying kind of buzz in my voice...is this bad technique or just bad pipes?

[QUOTE=zippcraz1one]yes im kind of confused by notes one say's that C3 is middle C

and 5 other thing's say's it's not any way i use a tool called pitch practice

witch says C4 is middle C,so im going by that. lol

when im not warmed up i can hit E2 when i am warmed up
the lowest i can go is G2 true voice

the highest i can go true voice is G4 when im warmed up
the highest i can go when im not warmed up is C4 to D4

so i think i use C4 as middle C.

the highest falsetto i can when not warmed up is C6.
the highest falsetto i can get when im warmed up is about G5.

and the less i practice, the higher my range seems to get. wtf?

im dont even know if im pushing from the gut or not.

so basicaly i can hit higher falsetto notes when not warmed up.
and lower falsetto notes when warmed up.

is that good or bad?

i think im loseing my falsetto, its just not as high as it was when i was 15.

and i think that inhaled screams are what's doing this.

and is it supposed to be easy to hit and hold notes

cuz i can hold my tone when im talking and stuff

and im just feeling thats it's way too easy i dont know whats happening

i hope im not turning into a tenor or somthing "if thats even possible"
cuz i like being a baritone.[/QUOTE]
How old are you now? Your larynx will get bigger as you go through puberty and whatnot, and it can really make your voice act up a bit. I dont really know what to tell you other than keep singing and see how it goes. If youre still pretty young, there's no telling where you might end up...as far as the fach system goes.

[QUOTE=zippcraz1one]yes im kind of confused by notes one say's that C3 is middle C

and 5 other thing's say's it's not any way i use a tool called pitch practice

witch says C4 is middle C,so im going by that. lol

when im not warmed up i can hit E2 when i am warmed up
the lowest i can go is G2 true voice

the highest i can go true voice is G4 when im warmed up
the highest i can go when im not warmed up is C4 to D4

so i think i use C4 as middle C.

the highest falsetto i can when not warmed up is C6.
the highest falsetto i can get when im warmed up is about G5.

and the less i practice, the higher my range seems to get. wtf?

im dont even know if im pushing from the gut or not.

so basicaly i can hit higher falsetto notes when not warmed up.
and lower falsetto notes when warmed up.

is that good or bad?

i think im loseing my falsetto, its just not as high as it was when i was 15.

and i think that inhaled screams are what's doing this.

and is it supposed to be easy to hit and hold notes

cuz i can hold my tone when im talking and stuff

and im just feeling thats it's way too easy i dont know whats happening

i hope im not turning into a tenor or somthing "if thats even possible"
cuz i like being a baritone.[/QUOTE]
How old are you now? Your larynx will get bigger as you go through puberty and whatnot, and it can really make your voice act up a bit. I dont really know what to tell you other than keep singing and see how it goes. If youre still pretty young, there's no telling where you might end up...as far as the fach system goes. You should post a sample

[QUOTE=Merkaba-1]How old are you now? Your larynx will get bigger as you go through puberty and whatnot, and it can really make your voice act up a bit. I dont really know what to tell you other than keep singing and see how it goes. If youre still pretty young, there's no telling where you might end up...as far as the fach system goes. You should post a sample[/QUOTE]

im 16 now.
if i post a sound clip could you tell me if im singing from my gut?

i forgot to ask this in my first post sorry but how can i tell
if i have a node

yeah stop doing the inward screams, they do the same thing to me

[QUOTE=Merkaba-1]Theoretically...and by "dont use your voice" you also mean things not neccesarily about music...such as talking loudly in a bar, ball game, etc.[/QUOTE]

Yeah exactly..
Good good, thanks for the answers :).. Just needed to know if I had the right idea about how it hurts your voice

sorry
 

i hate to keep bothering you...

but is there any thing i can do to make my range stop growing?
i have tried to stop singing...
but thats too hard...

i just dont want to wake up one day and have 5 octaves...

here's what happend... most of what i remember anyway

ok 4 or 3 months ago i had trouble hiting and holding an A3...
so one nite i didnt stop... till i got E4, after that i couldn't talk...
my voice hurt.. and i didn't stop there.. i would do it every day..
no matter how hard it was, my range started growing after that...

i dont want it to get any higher than G4...
but with my luck.. by next month, ill prolly be able to hit and hold a C5...
maybe i was just born with it i dont know.....

the most scary thing about it is i held a note for 19 sec's today.
i could have held it longer but it scared me..

thank you for all the help merkaba..
i will try to get a sample up...

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[QUOTE=zippcraz1one]i hate to keep bothering you...

but is there any thing i can do to make my range stop growing?
i have tried to stop singing...
but thats too hard...

i just dont want to wake up one day and have 5 octaves...

here's what happend... most of what i remember anyway

ok 4 or 3 months ago i had trouble hiting and holding an A3...
so one nite i didnt stop... till i got E4, after that i couldn't talk...
my voice hurt.. and i didn't stop there.. i would do it every day..
no matter how hard it was, my range started growing after that...

i dont want it to get any higher than G4...
but with my luck.. by next month, ill prolly be able to hit and hold a C5...
maybe i was just born with it i dont know.....

the most scary thing about it is i held a note for 19 sec's today.
i could have held it longer but it scared me..

thank you for all the help merkaba..
i will try to get a sample up...[/QUOTE]

Well you were trying to reach a note ...or make your range grow in the first place right? so what if you have a big range as long as its not affecting your quality...right? I'd love to hear a sample though.

cool
 

[QUOTE=Merkaba-1]Well you were trying to reach a note ...or make your range grow in the first place right? so what if you have a big range as long as its not affecting your quality...right? I'd love to hear a sample though.[/QUOTE]

yes i tried to make my range grow and it worked i wouldnt recomend
doing what i did cuz i blew my voice out a few time's!!!
as far quality goes, im working on that...
i wish i had found this site when i started singing...

my friend and i will be recording today.. so i will have some up today...

i'll do some scream's too see if you can help me with that if you have time.. :thumb:
i don't know if your ear's will like my voice tho lol

sample
 

ok.. i recorded some sample i wasn't warmed up but one is falsetto...
and one is true voice i think.....

here's my voice. i didn't have time to warm up. so i couldn't get my whole
range, but. next time if you truly want to hear it all i can record it friday
cuz, il have more time then..

[url]http://www.soundclick.com/bands/5/zippcrazone1_music.htm[/url]

hope this work's

Hey Merkaba..

How do I raspen my voice [I]more[/I]? I know I should use my soft pallet, which I do, but, does it get more raspy if I push more from the gut?

Also, I've been practicing some breathing techniques for this past month now. And I noticed how I feel the air in my sides when I breathe it in, and how of course, my stomache swells. But I don't feel like I can hold more breath than before, help?

Hey, to someone who can help

I f[B][I][/B][/I]ucking love John Garcia's voice....and would like to pull off a similar style

Any advice?!

Or am I just being daft :)

(I'm referring to his Kyuss times e.g Flip The Phrase, Freedom Run etc)

[QUOTE=deadinlove]Hey, to someone who can help

I f[B][I][/B][/I]ucking love John Garcia's voice....and would like to pull off a similar style

Any advice?!

Or am I just being daft :)

(I'm referring to his Kyuss times e.g Flip The Phrase, Freedom Run etc)[/QUOTE]


Pay attention to his reply to my question, I guess. The dude raspens his voice a lot, something you need your soft pallet for. Let air pass through the back of your throat.

I love Kyuss.

Jeez dude I missed your post

Hooray :)

I'll look out

Do you think it has something to with his accent as well?!

I love Fatso Forgetso and Flip The Phrase, he sounds immense on those songs :thumb:

[QUOTE=deadinlove]Jeez dude I missed your post

Hooray :)

I'll look out

Do you think it has something to with his accent as well?!

I love Fatso Forgetso and Flip The Phrase, he sounds immense on those songs :thumb:[/QUOTE]


I have no idea, as I'm not a great vocalist - my vocal ability is just limited to extreme vocals (screams, grunts). I just posted what I know. But it could very well be his accent.

Garcia's amazing in "I'm Not", though. How he does the chorus, over Josh's guitar kicks ***.

Yeah it might be :)

He sounds a bit of a hick...although when you hear him live talking to the crowd , he has a normal voice, although really really deep

Gah :( I'm jealous

[QUOTE=deadinlove]Yeah it might be :)

He sounds a bit of a hick...although when you hear him live talking to the crowd , he has a normal voice, although really really deep

Gah :( I'm jealous[/QUOTE]


Actually, he doesn't have a strong accent in Demon Cleaner, he sounds very clean on that song, so I don't know.. I guess you should just wait for Merkaba to post.

Right oh, nice talking to ya :thumb:

Kyuss > everyone

[QUOTE=deadinlove]Hey, to someone who can help

I f[B][I][/B][/I]ucking love John Garcia's voice....and would like to pull off a similar style

Any advice?!

Or am I just being daft :)

(I'm referring to his Kyuss times e.g Flip The Phrase, Freedom Run etc)[/QUOTE]

Can you post a sample? Dont make this stuff harder than it is. There's not much you can do with the cords. Now trying to match another mans tone exactly can often lead to tension in the throat area....thus damage to some degree...or just shltty sounding vocals.

[QUOTE=Kosta]Hey Merkaba..

How do I raspen my voice [I]more[/I]? I know I should use my soft pallet, which I do, but, does it get more raspy if I push more from the gut?

Also, I've been practicing some breathing techniques for this past month now. And I noticed how I feel the air in my sides when I breathe it in, and how of course, my stomache swells. But I don't feel like I can hold more breath than before, help?[/QUOTE]
Yea, eventually you need to go ahead and learn to push a lot. To sound "competitive"...Lots of guys are killing the soundwaves and not killing their voices...many are. Just try to follow proper technique..and turn it up a little at a time. And dont equate it with extra throat squeezing. This is the key. Just be sure to reamain relaxed up top. And be sure to go for singing the note first. Be careful...but yes...eventually you have to push harder for more rasp.

voice
 

i just hit a chest voice note with falsetto..
is that good or bad?
could my cord's get so long that they fall out of my throat? :lol:
and. what is a node and how can i tell if i have one?

my adam's apple, dosnt move as much when i talk as it used..
is that good or bad?

i had posted some sample's i don't know if you saw them or not..

just some stuff, i wanted to ask to see if i should continue the same
or change some thing's....

[QUOTE=Merkaba-1]Can you post a sample? Dont make this stuff harder than it is. There's not much you can do with the cords. Now trying to match another mans tone exactly can often lead to tension in the throat area....thus damage to some degree...or just shltty sounding vocals.


Yea, eventually you need to go ahead and learn to push a lot. To sound "competitive"...Lots of guys are killing the soundwaves and not killing their voices...many are. Just try to follow proper technique..and turn it up a little at a time. And dont equate it with extra throat squeezing. This is the key. Just be sure to reamain relaxed up top. And be sure to go for singing the note first. Be careful...but yes...eventually you have to push harder for more rasp.[/QUOTE]


So how do I push?

And why doesn't it feel like I can hold more breath with my gut? 'cause I can't. I can only hold as much breath with my gut, as I do when I use my upper lungs. And I know I do it properly.

Zippcrazone1, I listened to your recordings. The falsetto was pretty sweet, I think you went pretty high. Not bad at all!
The other one titled "me singing", I don't think you were hitting the right notes. Because, you sung "do re me fa so la ti do" but the notes you were hitting, it definitely wasn't a full octave. Maybe if you have a guitar or keyboard, you could figure out your range and try singing along with it.
I thought you had a pretty good tone though, it was interesting. Cool stuff.

[QUOTE=CDoasis]Zippcrazone1, I listened to your recordings. The falsetto was pretty sweet, I think you went pretty high. Not bad at all!
The other one titled "me singing", I don't think you were hitting the right notes. Because, you sung "do re me fa so la ti do" but the notes you were hitting, it definitely wasn't a full octave. Maybe if you have a guitar or keyboard, you could figure out your range and try singing along with it.
I thought you had a pretty good tone though, it was interesting. Cool stuff.[/QUOTE]

thank's dude i can go higher than that with falsetto...
i just didnt have time and the note's i was singing i think where from
D3 maybe E3 to C4 so yeah it wasn't an octave...
i just started singing, but sunday i will record some more and...
it will be all my range....