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Triangle 08-19-2004 04:17 AM

exactly. Metallica would of been completly different if Mustain stayed...

GraveRobbersINC 08-19-2004 10:12 AM

Does anyone know of any songs Dave Mustaine uses a Tremolo bar on, I was reading something from a guitar player and he says he's pretty against the use of them.

Mega_Dave 08-19-2004 04:33 PM

[QUOTE]and i have a question, who does the solos on holy wars (including the little gypsy part) and hangar 18? is it marty? because those solos kick major ***!!!![/QUOTE]

Friedman plays all the solos in Holy Wars except for the last one, that's Mustaine's and in Hangar 18 Friedman plays most of them except for a few.

Reidie86 08-20-2004 01:04 AM

[QUOTE=monkey_chops23]I'm new to megadeth, but I've always been interested in listening to their stuff. What would the single best ablum be to start off with if I was to go buy one?[/QUOTE]

i'd recomend getting cowntdown to extinction, followed by rust in peace. If u havnt heard much megadeth, then Daves vocals on rust in peace might put u off the band. Get cowntdown, and after u have "aquired" a taste for daves vocals get rust in peace, and there earlyer stuff - they rock :thumb:

bassplayer18 08-20-2004 01:47 AM

true metallica would've sounded alot different if mustaine stayed, but they would sound different in a good way!

Mega_Dave 08-20-2004 02:22 PM

They definetly would have been faster and more thrashy.

Reidie86 08-20-2004 06:16 PM

[QUOTE=Mega_Dave]They definetly would have been faster and more thrashy.[/QUOTE]
i agree with the faster call. "the four horsemen" -> "mechanix" The speed difference is huge

Five Magics 08-20-2004 10:44 PM

[QUOTE=Deadsy]Yea, in the new guitar world, it had Mustaine talking about how Kerry hates his guts and that he needs some help.[/QUOTE]

Didn't Kerry try out for Megadeth way back when Dave first started trying to form the band?

Kingofdudes 08-21-2004 10:39 AM

[QUOTE=Five Magics]Didn't Kerry try out for Megadeth way back when Dave first started trying to form the band?[/QUOTE]

He played a few gigs with them back when they were first starting out, but Kerry said he would never have joined the band.

FatalEnergy 08-21-2004 11:31 AM

Dave could kick Kerry's ***

Mega_Dave 08-21-2004 09:07 PM

[QUOTE]i agree with the faster call. "the four horsemen" -> "mechanix" The speed difference is huge[/QUOTE]

Same with every single other Megadeth song compared to a Metallica song, Megadeth is much faster overall compared to them. That's another reason why Dave and James didn't get along, James wanted everything to be slower and Dave wanted to take thrash metal in a new direction and be faster and more technical.

Reidie86 08-21-2004 10:28 PM

[QUOTE=Mega_Dave]Same with every single other Megadeth song compared to a Metallica song, Megadeth is much faster overall compared to them. That's another reason why Dave and James didn't get along, James wanted everything to be slower and Dave wanted to take thrash metal in a new direction and be faster and more technical.[/QUOTE]

i chose "the four horsemen" and "mechanix" as an example of the speed difference, cos bar the into "mechanix", and the interlude to the 4 horsmen, they're pretty much identical. The only thing that makes them different is the speed difference (and lyrics)

Reidie86 08-21-2004 10:32 PM

[QUOTE=Deadsy]Yea, because Marty writes all the songs and everything. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

:lol: good call :lol: :thumb:

SB_Haggard 08-21-2004 10:39 PM

[QUOTE=FaceInTheSky]Dave could kick Kerry's ***[/QUOTE]

I guess so, he has a friggin black belt and does judo and stuff.

I dont think people give poland eneough credit tho, i mean he writes such awesome solos, some better than marty i find because the ones poland did sort of fit better and sounded more metally. Whereas marty gets really technical and starts wandering keys and doing relatives and then starts making other guitarists feel bad when they watch the notes fly by in powertab.

And i think we should really thank poland for doing such a huge contribution to writing alot of solos on this new album, which i cant ****ing wait to hear

Five Magics 08-21-2004 10:57 PM

Chris Poland is amazing! The work he produced on KIMB and PSBWB is unbelieveable. But I still prefer Marty though. I think its all because of Rust In Peace, the lineup on there was the best ever. Which brings me to my next point, which Megadeth lineup was your favourite and least favourite?

Mustaine/Ellefson/Samuelson/Poland
Mustaine/Ellefson/Behler/Young <-----Least Favourite
Mustaine/Ellefson/Menza/Friedman <-----Favourite
Mustaine/Ellefson/Degrasso/Pitrelli

RiceMonster 08-21-2004 10:58 PM

[QUOTE=SB_Haggard]I guess so, he has a friggin black belt and does judo and stuff.

I dont think people give poland eneough credit tho, i mean he writes such awesome solos, some better than marty i find because the ones poland did sort of fit better and sounded more metally. Whereas marty gets really technical and starts wandering keys and doing relatives and then starts making other guitarists feel bad when they watch the notes fly by in powertab.

And i think we should really thank poland for doing such a huge contribution to writing alot of solos on this new album, which i cant ****ing wait to hear[/QUOTE]

Agreed. Chris Poland wrote some memorable solos such as my last words, I can't stop listening to that solo. He sertainly isn't better than freindman but many of his solos are great. To bad he Isn't actually back in MegaDeth although, I like his Solo work on Kick the Chair.

RiceMonster 08-21-2004 11:00 PM

[QUOTE=Five Magics] which Megadeth lineup was your favourite and least favourite?

Mustaine/Ellefson/Samuelson/Poland
Mustaine/Ellefson/Behler/Young <-----Least Favourite
Mustaine/Ellefson/Menza/Friedman <-----Favourite
Mustaine/Ellefson/Degrasso/Pitrelli[/QUOTE]

My favs and least favs are the same as yours.

sacrifice93.2 08-21-2004 11:41 PM

[QUOTE=GraveRobbersINC]I think this thread is failing :(. Whats your favorite Megadeth album?[/QUOTE]

RUST IN PEACE! Tornado of Souls, Holy Wars....The Punishment Due, Hangar 18, man what an AWESOME CD!

Reidie86 08-21-2004 11:58 PM

Mustaine/Ellefson/Samuelson/Poland
Mustaine/Ellefson/Behler/Young
Mustaine/Ellefson/Menza/Friedman <-----Favourite
Mustaine/Ellefson/Degrasso/Pitrelli

i dont have a least favourite, and i like the line up on SFSGSW. The Mustaine/Friedman/Meza/Ellefson lineup is probly my favourite, but at the same time they were also the lineup that recorded risk :confused: (degrasso only toured with that album...... i think thats correct).

I liked the Mustaine/Ellefson/Degrasso/Pitrelli line up, not as much as Mustaine/Ellefson/Menza/Friedman or Mustaine/Ellefson/Samuelson/Poland, but i thaught it was a preety darn solid lineup.

Five Magics 08-22-2004 07:34 PM

[QUOTE=Reidie86]I liked the Mustaine/Ellefson/Degrasso/Pitrelli line up, not as much as Mustaine/Ellefson/Menza/Friedman or Mustaine/Ellefson/Samuelson/Poland, but i thaught it was a preety darn solid lineup.[/QUOTE]

yeah, agreed. Just watching the Rude Awakening DVD , that lineup was amazing on it, but at times a kind of wish that Menza and Friedman were there instead, but Degrasso and Pitrelli do an excellent job on there regardless

Five Magics 08-24-2004 08:55 AM

has anyone seen the album cover of "The System has Failed"? I think it is pretty good and it is typical Megadeth showing Vic on it

DimebagDarrell 08-24-2004 09:31 AM

yes ive seen it :) its very political i hope the album even going to be that way

GraveRobbersINC 08-24-2004 09:35 AM

I think it just looks cool, politics aside.

Reidie86 08-27-2004 05:52 AM

is september 14th the international relese date for the system has failed or just for the US??

DisposableHeroes 08-27-2004 07:37 AM

i think its the international release date too

PoliticallyIncorrectMetalhead 08-27-2004 10:56 AM

Who do you think Megadeths best drummer was.. I personally think Gars Samuelson was.(R.I.P.)

Esp Griffyn 08-27-2004 11:16 AM

I just heard "Kick the Chair"

its ace!

RiceMonster 08-27-2004 11:26 AM

To be honest I didn't think Kick the chair was all that good, It sertanly isn't a bad song, but I don't find myself ever wanting to listen to it.

Esp Griffyn 08-27-2004 11:30 AM

[QUOTE=EddieVanHalen769]To be honest I didn't think Kick the chair was all that good, It sertanly isn't a bad song, but I don't find myself ever wanting to listen to it.[/QUOTE]

its got an ace performace. Its also the first Megadeth song Ive ever heard.

*isa megadeth n00b*

Hangar_18!! 08-27-2004 07:42 PM

best megadeth songs are hangar 18 and return to hangar

Arise 08-28-2004 09:15 AM

[QUOTE=Hangar_18!!]best megadeth songs are hangar 18 and return to hangar[/QUOTE]

Good ones. but not the best.

Best:

My Last Words
Loved Til Death
Rattlehead
Holy Wars
New World Order
Into The Lungs Of Hell
Set The World Afire
Five Magics

Five Magics 08-28-2004 01:23 PM

[QUOTE=PoliticallyIncorrectMetalhead]Who do you think Megadeths best drummer was.. I personally think Gars Samuelson was.(R.I.P.)[/QUOTE]

here is my order of who was my favourite out of the drummers:

Nick Menza (he lasted the longest, and his work on Rust In Peace is top-notch and better than any other 'Deth album)

Jimmy Degrasso (close 2nd, but watching the Rude Awakening DVD made him seem like first cause he played all the songs sooooo very well)

Gar Samuelson (He is amazing too, Maybe he would have been higher if I seen a DVD or some videos of him playing or if he played in Megadeth longer)

Check Behler (cant say he was great, I didnt think he fit the band at all)

PoliticallyIncorrectMetalhead 08-28-2004 01:34 PM

I liked Gars sort of jazz feel in the first two albums. But anyway I've been meaning to pick up rude awakening. Is it worth buying?

Five Magics 08-28-2004 01:45 PM

Oh ya. It's a definite buy. The musicianship is perfect. Jimmy Degrasso is amazing in it, the way he played all of Gars' songs were perfect and he added his own touch in it which were: The Mechanix, Wake Up Dead, Peace Sells, & Devil's Island. The only little flaw and I do me little is Mustaine's voice live. His voice has obviously changed throughout the years (as would anyones) and it was harder for him to sing the older songs ( i think anyway). But, it is worth buying no doubt!!!

Mega_Dave 08-28-2004 02:51 PM

Yes, definetly buy the RA DVD, it's amazing and it made me appreciate Megadeth so much more, I've watched that DVD hundreds of times, best 30 bucks I've ever spent in my entire life :smoke: .

wales'llqualifyforworldcup2006 08-28-2004 03:03 PM

Does anyone know what the new album will sound like? Or even when it's coming to the UK?

PoliticallyIncorrectMetalhead 08-28-2004 03:05 PM

haha nice I shall go search for it once I get enough money.

Kingofdudes 08-28-2004 03:07 PM

[QUOTE=wales'llqualifyforworldcup2006]Does anyone know what the new album will sound like? Or even when it's coming to the UK?[/QUOTE]

They have released 3 of the tracks from it, check them out.

wales'llqualifyforworldcup2006 08-28-2004 03:09 PM

is it on the official website? if so I'll check it out godspeedingly

wales'llqualifyforworldcup2006 08-28-2004 03:14 PM

just heard Die Dead Enough, and souns like something off Countdown to Extinction, at least it's better than Metallica's new album


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