ok I guess I'll just put the metranome up while I'm recording and try to keep in my head what the instrumental's are doing. The stuff I recorded today sounds AWESOME!!thanx a bunch for you help the abstract! :D

I'm back. Having another question...

I have a 1/4" -> 1/8" adapter. I used it when I wanted to record direct in stuff. I tried it the other day with my acoustic-electric and it came out totally horrible. I'm just wondering, could it be the adapter, or the fact that I'm going direct in? I've tried the same thing with my bass, but it came out the way one would expect, absolutely dreadful sounding.

So, when I do get my hands on a mic, should I still run my mic's 1/4" cable through this adapter and into the line in? If not, what other alternatives do I have, since I'm not planning on buying a mixer (as I'll only have one instrument playing at a time - for the moment...)?

ok i got a big problem. im recording a 5 person band in a room thats like 7x12 feet and over head there is a vent that goes across the ceiling and rattles when our amps are turned up. how can i reduced or eliminate the rattle?(with out screwing up the duct work)

[QUOTE=trev913]I'm back. Having another question...

I have a 1/4" -> 1/8" adapter. I used it when I wanted to record direct in stuff. I tried it the other day with my acoustic-electric and it came out totally horrible. I'm just wondering, could it be the adapter, or the fact that I'm going direct in? I've tried the same thing with my bass, but it came out the way one would expect, absolutely dreadful sounding.

So, when I do get my hands on a mic, should I still run my mic's 1/4" cable through this adapter and into the line in? If not, what other alternatives do I have, since I'm not planning on buying a mixer (as I'll only have one instrument playing at a time - for the moment...)?[/QUOTE]
Make sure the adapter is plugged in all the way. Mine was only like 3/4 of the way in and it sounded really bad. That might be ur problem.

[QUOTE=LeDbOx]ok i got a big problem. im recording a 5 person band in a room thats like 7x12 feet and over head there is a vent that goes across the ceiling and rattles when our amps are turned up. how can i reduced or eliminate the rattle?(with out screwing up the duct work)[/QUOTE]
take off the vent. Shouldn't be too hard cuz it's already duct taped on anyways right:thumb:?. Maybe buy a new one for like ten bucks at home depot, or U can do what I did at my old house and just cover it with a peice of mesh clothing or T shirt.

or turn the amps down:thumb:

its not that kind of vent, its the kind that comes directly from the heater and runs from one side of the room to the other and is attached from the ceiling. i guess i could try to turn the amps down but its just not the same sound..... anyone with ideas on how to stop it from vibrating would be appreciated.

^^^use tape or something, just do anything to stop it i guess

how can i make the other tracks play when i record on cakewalk guitar studio?

harsh realities of the unpopular forum

[QUOTE=HNLzero]harsh realities of the unpopular forum[/QUOTE]

harsh realities of being an idiot

im sorry i offended you
could you help me out o wise one?

[QUOTE=HNLzero]im sorry i offended you
could you help me out o wise one?[/QUOTE]

u didnt offend me, just thought i'd tell you why no-one has replied

so do you know the answer to my question?

it could be many things, is there sound comming up in the mixer? are the mixer tracks turned up? have u assigned the tracks to the corect output and soundcard?

nono
when I record it plays through the speakers
when i'm recording I just want my other tracks to play while I record

i do direct into the back mic jack

press record. Press play on the other tracks :thumb:

um
when i armed the track, and its recording the play button is depressed but all i hear is the metronome and me playing realtime
but when i press end record it has just sec or two or the other tracks playing

Hey guys im having a delima... Ok i went to guitar center sometime in march and bought a whole lot of **** so i could record a demo for my band. Were on a low budget so we bought vocal mics to mic everything. (drums, bass, guitar, ect) I also bought a mixer. A behringer pmx2000. I also have sonic foundry sound forge 7.0. (kazza) So we rented a hall and its big enough for us to space out etc. I setup everything and start to play/record and when we finish a song and listen to it, everything is super unbalanced. Yea it was probably from the mics and we didnt really kno how to mic anything.

Ok so we read up on recording and we kno how to mic drums and all that stuff corectly this time. But we still have crap mics. But well get around it. Also, I went to guitar center the other day and bought a mobliepre usb. The guy said its like a soundcard. But i cant get it to work at all. Its being retarted. It also came with some software that i cant get to work either. Live Delta and Reason Adapted.

Any help?

explain more on the soundcard, will it simply do nothing? you have to reset the computer, or go into the control panel and recognize the card. sorry, i only know about pcs, not macs.

where you talking to him? or me? I have a pc and it doesnt do anything. The computer recognizes it but thats it. It wont do nething.

i have a problem 2. i have cool edit pro 2 n i just hooked every thing up to record. im using a mic that sits infront of my amp. i can hear the mic pick up everything awesome in the headphones/speakers. But the problem is when i hit record in the prog, nothin is actually recorded. just the dead sound of the speakers or w/e. does anybody know where my configurations r ****ed up or what to do? this is really pissing me off!!!

any help would b sweet. thanx

i can record perfectly
i just want the other fcuking tracks to play when i do record

Drum Recording
 

what exactly is the mixer. i think i no its just my friend might have one and i want want 1 to.

the mixer is what gives you more outputs, and you can change the hi end and lo end and stuff and sometimes the pitch.

[QUOTE=MtlGtrRckr]i have a problem 2. i have cool edit pro 2 n i just hooked every thing up to record. im using a mic that sits infront of my amp. i can hear the mic pick up everything awesome in the headphones/speakers. But the problem is when i hit record in the prog, nothin is actually recorded. just the dead sound of the speakers or w/e. does anybody know where my configurations r ****ed up or what to do? this is really pissing me off!!!

any help would b sweet. thanx[/QUOTE]

i'd say you need to go into windows recording mixer (in options in cool edit) and click the line in check box

Anyone know any good sites that have good Cubase VST tutorials?

^^^ There should be one in the help menu....pffft cubase vst.....i got cubase sx now lol

I just read the entire thread, lots of good tips from a good dude. I have set up a few practice studios in my time and like abstract says, the best way to prevent noise from penetrating the walls and annoying the neighbors is to put up another solid wall with some space between it and the first one. I also think it is good to put egg crates on the ceiling. I did this and there was absolutely no reverberation in the room.
I just recently got fruity loops professional edition and cakewalk, haven't quite figured out how to record my instrument to a channel using those programs while listening to beats that have been set up on the slicer. Just haven't quite figured out how to use the software yet.

just read the help menu and persavere...ull get it

Well dude, I was able to record using cakewalk, but have not seen that function supported at all in the fruity loops producer edition. That edition has some cool patches, real drumkit and some others that are real nice. I did figure out that I can render the fruity loops files to a .wav file and then import them to cakewalk where I can record the live instruments, but I did hear a hiss in the background.
I read somewhere that the hiss is actually there because of the close proximity of the soundcard to the processor and it is picking up the noise from there. External soundcards that connect via usb or some other way is supposedly the way to suppress this hiss. I'll be looking into this and checking prices at my favorite PC hardware outlet.

Which is the best program to get, I have Pro-Tools Free which isn't great, as it half the stuff from the real thing missing, my Cubase I got from Soulseek doesn't work properly, and I have Krystal Wave Audio wich is OK, but it's a bit basic.
I was thinking of either getting Logic or Vegas, which is best?

[QUOTE=guitarist_of_darkness]Which is the best program to get, I have Pro-Tools Free which isn't great, as it half the stuff from the real thing missing, my Cubase I got from Soulseek doesn't work properly, and I have Krystal Wave Audio wich is OK, but it's a bit basic.
I was thinking of either getting Logic or Vegas, which is best?[/QUOTE]
Do that audicity thing that kkkokain will tell you. Also, look for adobe audition under soulseek, download the program, then download the keygen.

Some Advice please
 

Hey, I read through all the posts and didn't notice anyone with my question, so here goes. Me and my band are planning to record soon, a real DIY job, but anyway, planning to go from mic to PA, from PA to sound card, and we're gonna use Adobe Audition on the PC. My question is, is it possible to record multiple tracks during one take this way? I basically wanna have it set up as close to studio recording as possible, mic up the whole drum kit with 5 mics, so I can have each drum come out on its own track for processing. (or as close to that as possible) If this is possible, how do I set up Audition so that each mic signal will come out on its own track?

Thanks in advance, (cool thread by the way)

Band Setup Questions
 

Ok guys this is the situation any help wil be appreciated:

Our band has 5 members:

1. Rythym Guitarist (me)
2. Singer
3. Lead Guitarist
4. Bass Guitarist
5. Drummer

1. Rythym Guitar setup is as follows
Guitar -> Distortion Pedal -> Equalizer pedal -> Marshall Combo Amp (with Line out jack)

2. Lead GUitarist Setup
Guitar -> Fender Amp (with Line out jack)

3. Singer Setup
Microphone -> Small Amp (NO Line Out jack)

4. Bass Guitarist setup
Bass Guitar ->Amp (with Line Out Jack)

5. Drummer Setup
Drums -> 1 Condeser Electret Microphone ->No Amp Used (mic for future use)

THis is what we want to do:

We Need a Mixer System or whatever to eb able to record onto the computer. And From the Mixer we want to hook up PA Speakers for like gigs and stuff. Now I know for the PA thing to work we need a POWERED MIXER, not a passive one. but they are way to expensive.

So scrap the gig PA idea for now and just think of how we would record, BUt have the possibility of adding a PA Speaker system later.

What stuff do we need to buy.
I already have a computer with a old sounblaster card (will i need a new audigy like it syas in the guide)

What Mixer? How many Channels? What will go where?
Do the drums need more microphones?
Can we still somehow use our amplifiers as foldback?

When we jam the singer uses my old stereo, we convert the microphone jack to a small jack and plug into the Mix Mic jack on the stereo

How will all this work? What goes where?

and pelase rememebr we are on a budget.

Help would be appriciated. Thank You.

is this a good sound card? [url]http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000DBMEU/qid=1096065416/sr=8-4/ref=pd_csp_4/102-4476801-3664114?v=glance&s=electronics&n=507846[/url]
or this?[url]http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000C4DVZ/ref=pd_sbs_e_4/102-4476801-3664114?v=glance&s=electronics&n=507846[/url]

[QUOTE=kalpa]Ok guys this is the situation any help wil be appreciated:

Our band has 5 members:

1. Rythym Guitarist (me)
2. Singer
3. Lead Guitarist
4. Bass Guitarist
5. Drummer

1. Rythym Guitar setup is as follows
Guitar -> Distortion Pedal -> Equalizer pedal -> Marshall Combo Amp (with Line out jack)

2. Lead GUitarist Setup
Guitar -> Fender Amp (with Line out jack)

3. Singer Setup
Microphone -> Small Amp (NO Line Out jack)

4. Bass Guitarist setup
Bass Guitar ->Amp (with Line Out Jack)

5. Drummer Setup
Drums -> 1 Condeser Electret Microphone ->No Amp Used (mic for future use)

THis is what we want to do:

We Need a Mixer System or whatever to eb able to record onto the computer. And From the Mixer we want to hook up PA Speakers for like gigs and stuff. Now I know for the PA thing to work we need a POWERED MIXER, not a passive one. but they are way to expensive.

So scrap the gig PA idea for now and just think of how we would record, BUt have the possibility of adding a PA Speaker system later.

What stuff do we need to buy.
I already have a computer with a old sounblaster card (will i need a new audigy like it syas in the guide)

What Mixer? How many Channels? What will go where?
Do the drums need more microphones?
Can we still somehow use our amplifiers as foldback?

When we jam the singer uses my old stereo, we convert the microphone jack to a small jack and plug into the Mix Mic jack on the stereo

How will all this work? What goes where?

and pelase rememebr we are on a budget.

Help would be appriciated. Thank You.[/QUOTE]

Alright, you're best off using a mixer (I.E: [url]http://www.zzounds.com/item--BEHUB2222FXP[/url] ; any 8-channel mixer will do) into a digital recorder (I.E: [url]http://www.zzounds.com/item--FOSMR8[/url]).

The mixer has two outputs (Left/Right) which you plug into the MR8 (The digital recorder I suggested).

When a song is recorded, it's stored on a 128mb flash card, (You can by bigger ones), and then may be transfered onto your computer via USB cable.

For the guitars, you're better off micing the amps, because to be able to go direct, you need a decent preamp if you want anything near a good sound and also a DI box (explained later).

So your signal path for the guitars will look something like this

Guitar > Effects/Whatever > Amp > Mic > Mixer > MR8

Signal path for your bass will be similar, just with a DI box. If you dont already know, in a nutshell, a DI box makes your audio signal out of your bass into one that is much cleaner and audiable. A decent one will run you $40 USD, I suggest the Whirlwind ([url]http://www.zzounds.com/item--WHRIMP2[/url]).

Bass > DI > Mixer > MR8

Next, the drums. This is a pretty hard decision, considering that alot of drum mic's can run you a bit of cash. It really all depends on how big the drummers kit is. But assuming that he's using a 4 peice kit (Kick, Snare, Tom 1, Tom 2), you'd have an individual mic for each drum. As for cymbals, two overhead condenser mics does the trick. You said you already have one, but it's a big no-no to mix different overhead mics (But if you're really strapped, you can get away with just one mic. Alot of budget drum mic kits can get you good results.

This one ([url]http://www.zzounds.com/item--SHUPGDMK6XLR[/url]) has just about everything you need for the setup I mention above, but the mics you're getting arent too great. Regardless, it'd be a good buy for you situation.

In contrast, this one ([url]http://www.zzounds.com/item--SHUDMK5752[/url]) is a very good set of mics. The SM57 is a world-renowned microphone which is used for everything from a snare drum to Anthony Kiedis' vocals on Californication (Really). Only down side is, you dont get any overheads, but if you're willing to use the one you got for an overhead and drop the extra cash on this kit, go for it.

(I only listed two drum mic kits, but there are a ton more if you look for them)

So your signal chain for the drums would be,

Drum Mic (Snare/Kick/Etc..) > Mixer > MR8

Last but not least, the vocals. Tough choice. If you're doing a home-studio thing, then you'd have to consider dropping some cash on a decent condenser mic for the vocals, or you can just stick with a trusty SM57 or a SM58 (The 58's the exact same thing as a 57, except with a diaphram over the from of the mic and I belive a windscreen built into it). I'm going to assume you're planning on using this set-up for live gigs, so I'd suggest just trying out an SM58 ($99 USD; [url]http://www.zzounds.com/item--SHUSM58[/url]) for a while and see how it works out.

Your vocal chain would be

Singer > Mic > Mixer > MR8

Now according to the mics I've listed above, I've said a total of 9 (Snare, Kick, Tom1, Tom2, Overhead1, Overhead2, LeadGuitar, RhythmGuitar, Vocals).
While, the mixer I listed only has 8 inputs. You have two options here. One would be to lay down some extra cash on a mixer with a few more inputs (Might not be such a bad idea considering that you could expand your mic-setup later on in the game). Or, just use one overhead mic (as I suggested earlier). The choice is yours, but if I were you, I'd stick with one overhead for now (Cheaper, less noise/phase problems, less stands, etc..).

Before I end this here, I should mention that the mixer has a 3 band equalizer. This is going to be -very- helpful in making the sound out of your mics sound better to the crowd. I've gotten killer results with the above setup, and with a little practice (and money) so can you.

Hope this helps. :)

good, i was hoping someone else would write that...coz i didnt wanna...man i'm getting lazy, good work by the way, i agree with everythin in there.

My setup is Guitar>Distortion Pedal>computer. My question is, I've been hearing alot about micing the amp or going thru a mixer or something, but I dont see the need to. To me nothing really sounds bad when I record this way.

thanx man! This was really useful