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Kaden 05-08-2004 09:21 PM

[SIZE=5]ATTENTION PEOPLE: PLEASE READ THE THREAD BEFORE POSTING. MARDUKS DIDN'T GET ALL GENRES, OTHER PEOPLE HAVE DEFINED THEM. IF NO ONE HAS DONE A GENRE, QUIT BITCHING AND DO IT YOURSELF.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=1]This thread is really starting to piss me off...[/SIZE]

CarpathianVampyre 05-08-2004 09:47 PM

lmfao

sickgoregrind_666 05-10-2004 05:29 AM

Well although categorising is very helpful to most what about certain bands that cannot be categorised i.e opeth. I wouldnt call them death, melodic death, black or anything just Opeth

Jondur 05-10-2004 06:20 AM

I could have sworn someone had done grindcore.... Oh well if not:

Grindcore:

As it's name suggests, grindcore is an extension of the UK hardcore scene of the early 80's. It's roots lie mainly with Discharge but also Chaos UK, Crass, The Exploited etc. Songs are predominantly short (taken to the extreme by the likes of Napalm Death - Dead is 6 seconds long - and Sore Throat who had 101 songs on Never Mind the Napalm.... here's Sore Throat), with punk structures. The music is simple, based around a few chords. It is , most importantly, fast. Very fast. It was grindcore that had the first blast beats (It was Pete Sandoval who introduced them to Death Metal when he left Terrorizer to join Morbid Angel). Lyrics are usually socio-political. Sometimes with a vegan or straight-edge slant.

Important bands include: Terrorizer, Napalm Death, Brutal Truth, Extreme Noise Terror, Bolt Thrower, Sore Throat, Old Lady Drivers, A$$uck, Nausea, Black Army Jacket, CSSO.

Goregrind is a subgenre that keeps the punky structure of Grindcore but adds more of a death metal influence. Lyrics are always about gorey killing etc.

See: Carcass, Repulsion, Agoraphobic Nosebleed etc

Noisecore is pointless but related to an extent.

Vitriolic Rage 05-10-2004 07:23 AM

[QUOTE=Jondur]I could have sworn someone had done grindcore.... Oh well if not:

Grindcore:

As it's name suggests, grindcore is an extension of the UK hardcore scene of the early 80's. It's roots lie mainly with Discharge but also Chaos UK, Crass, The Exploited etc. Songs are predominantly short (taken to the extreme by the likes of Napalm Death - Dead is 6 seconds long - and Sore Throat who had 101 songs on Never Mind the Napalm.... here's Sore Throat), with punk structures. The music is simple, based around a few chords. It is , most importantly, fast. Very fast. It was grindcore that had the first blast beats (It was Pete Sandoval who introduced them to Death Metal when he left Terrorizer to join Morbid Angel). Lyrics are usually socio-political. Sometimes with a vegan or straight-edge slant.

Important bands include: Terrorizer, Napalm Death, Brutal Truth, Extreme Noise Terror, Bolt Thrower, Sore Throat, Old Lady Drivers, A$$uck, Nausea, Black Army Jacket, CSSO.

Goregrind is a subgenre that keeps the punky structure of Grindcore but adds more of a death metal influence. Lyrics are always about gorey killing etc.

See: Carcass, Repulsion, Agoraphobic Nosebleed etc

Noisecore is pointless but related to an extent.[/QUOTE]
Noisecore is awful, I've heard one noisecore 'song' called Grinding Blur, by Corporate Bomb Threat, it's just 8 seconds of noise that sounds like an amp with a stomach ache.
By the way, what are Anal Cunt classed as? I'd say a cross between grindcore and punk.

studio virgins 05-11-2004 10:55 AM

thats all well and good but shouldnt it be whatever floats our boat after all your only grouping things which isnt wright

loki153 05-11-2004 06:15 PM

[QUOTE=sickgoregrind_666]Well although categorising is very helpful to most what about certain bands that cannot be categorised i.e opeth. I wouldnt call them death, melodic death, black or anything just Opeth[/QUOTE]

see my post on what i call "fusion metal"

tbreak 05-11-2004 08:17 PM

what would meshuggah be classed as? I always thought it might be progressive death metal

epifreak2002 05-12-2004 07:23 AM

[QUOTE=studio virgins]thats all well and good but shouldnt it be whatever floats our boat after all your only grouping things which isnt wright[/QUOTE]

Can anyone tell me just what the f[COLOR=White]u[/COLOR]ck this guy's talking about?

sickgoregrind_666 05-12-2004 07:46 AM

[QUOTE=loki153]see my post on what i call "fusion metal"[/QUOTE]
OK cheers very much, i didn't notice that

Jon 05-12-2004 10:28 AM

[QUOTE=loki153]godsmack and killswitch both suck but shadows fall used to be great[/QUOTE]

Killswitch own.

Prowler in the Yard 05-12-2004 10:31 AM

i havent looked through but was stoner metal mentioned at all? bongzilla and the likes of them

Jon 05-12-2004 10:31 AM

[QUOTE=the sock]could someone clear up the differance between speed and thrash plz? ive seen 2 confliction statments in this thread, so i want it cleared up for me :)[/QUOTE]
Briefly:

Thrash-
You know the score. Hard hitting, heavy, fast. Metallica, early Testament & so on.

Speed-
The faster bits of NWOBHM which influenced most thrash. Those bands, just evolved to around the same period as thrash. Like Motorhead. Not as heavy as thrash, but just as fast.


On Kill 'Em All for example,
Motorbreath (speed) c.f. No Remorse (thrash)

Geddit?

loki153 05-12-2004 02:13 PM

killswitch sux... i hate all hardcore/metalcore

amomentofviolence 05-12-2004 08:25 PM

props are deserved here

sickgoregrind_666 05-13-2004 03:04 AM

[QUOTE=loki153]killswitch sux... i hate all hardcore/metalcore[/QUOTE]
So killswitch are a poor band because you don't like the category of music they are in?

That sounds a bit silly really, i'm not a huge fan of hardcore and metalcore but killswitch are great i think, among others.

pennyroyaltea10 05-13-2004 04:22 PM

most excellent :chug:

pennyroyaltea10 05-13-2004 04:23 PM

[QUOTE=loki153]killswitch sux... i hate all hardcore/metalcore[/QUOTE]
whats your problem :confused:

pennyroyaltea10 05-13-2004 04:24 PM

[QUOTE=loki153]godsmack and killswitch both suck but shadows fall used to be great[/QUOTE]
i love godsmack :wave:

Kaden 05-13-2004 06:41 PM

[QUOTE=pennyroyaltea10]i love godsmack :wave:[/QUOTE]
Me too :D

Godly_Guitarist 05-14-2004 04:02 AM

Godsmack suck bells
 
[QUOTE=Kaden]Me too :D[/QUOTE]


GAHHH GODSMACK CAN BURN IN HELL

gakami 05-15-2004 06:37 AM

With all these different categories of hard rock/metal, are there any bands that crossover, whether in different album releases or even within one album release?

SlaveToTheGrind 05-15-2004 06:53 AM

yes. for example sepultura. they started with death/black then they played thrash and then they tuned their guitars down and played tribal metal :lol:

Per Ardua Ad Astra 05-15-2004 09:29 AM

[QUOTE=gakami]With all these different categories of hard rock/metal, are there any bands that crossover, whether in different album releases or even within one album release?[/QUOTE]

It happens all the time...
Burzum-Went from black metal, then when he went to jail his new stuff is atmospheric
Arcturus-Went from symphonic black metal, to avant garde
Ulver-Black metal to atmospheric

That's just a few of the top of my head

drummaster132000 05-15-2004 08:20 PM

Best description of the types of metal that I've ever heard. By the way System Of A Down rules.

phoely 05-16-2004 03:53 AM

[QUOTE=Prattinator999]Hey screw you I apologized. look again. Faggot.
"u r aeee spmur lolololol hahgahajha aeeeaaassshhwwol u nieewwwbyyiiieee!!!1!!1!
meatal rox hrdcre outlod mthr fck rs peeese ot."

And yes you have majorly pissed me off you f***** :evil:
plus any one with any brains can tell I was being sarcastic and making fun of queers like you.[/QUOTE]

Look...if you just going to mash your key board with your face trying to string together words, then dont bother.

Elz`Guitar` 05-16-2004 10:58 AM

Fantastic list.

WrongWay 05-16-2004 05:13 PM

where would creed be in that list?

Kaden 05-16-2004 07:20 PM

[QUOTE=WrongWay]where would creed be in that list?[/QUOTE]
Creed isn't metal.

mattdobson2001 05-17-2004 02:51 AM

im not sure if anyone else has mentioned this (most probably) coz i just skipped to the end after 3 or so pages,

i think Mudvayne come under Math Metal along with almighty Meshuggah!
i cant quite explain Math metal right now the words are there but putting them down is hard (way too little sleep last night!) I thinks a sub-genre of Industrial, math metal i think math metal is a crazy mix of tempos, nothing seems to be in time but they are all running in time, Nothing by Meshuggah is a good example of this
Fuk i am lost i have some but no idea what i am burbling about :evil: \m/

athane_2004 05-17-2004 02:54 AM

id have to add one thing
system of a down arent nu-metal people only say they were as they were lumped into the genre because they had make-up like slipknot are said to be nu-metal because they wear masks id say system were in a league of their own like tool cos there hasnt been anything else sounding like it before. and new nu-metal is ****. it was better in the old days when deftones + korn were riding high. personally im a thrash metal guy myself prefering DRI, Flotsam and jetsam and old metallica to any diluted piss thats out just now.

mattdobson2001 05-17-2004 02:54 AM

Creed dont deerve to be mentioned, they have got to be the biggest joke in music, bunch of bloody poofters, fuk that fuking human clay "CD" absolute trash, that dude so cant sing. Can someone explain why the whole band wears tank tops? :evil: \m/

mattdobson2001 05-17-2004 03:05 AM

i thought that nu-metal was music with down tuned guitars with a distinct lack of solos (which i must say have their place any decent metal band, listen to the solo on "Eternal Rest" by Avenged Sevenfold to catch my drift) with poor old whoahs me lyrics, do correct me if i'm wrong! :evil: \m/

sickgoregrind_666 05-17-2004 05:06 AM

[QUOTE=mattdobson2001] Can someone explain why the whole band wears tank tops? :evil: \m/[/QUOTE]
They wear tank tops to show off their massive sweaty muscles. Obviously

paddy_undefeated 05-17-2004 05:19 AM

[QUOTE=b3rn3r]I like it, but I feel some key artists are missing. All in all awesome list :thumb:[/QUOTE]
yeah dude! what about rhapsody in prog metal \m/ ^_^ \m/

paddy_undefeated 05-17-2004 05:21 AM

[QUOTE=mattdobson2001]im not sure if anyone else has mentioned this (most probably) coz i just skipped to the end after 3 or so pages,

i think Mudvayne come under Math Metal along with almighty Meshuggah!
i cant quite explain Math metal right now the words are there but putting them down is hard (way too little sleep last night!) I thinks a sub-genre of Industrial, math metal i think math metal is a crazy mix of tempos, nothing seems to be in time but they are all running in time, Nothing by Meshuggah is a good example of this
Fuk i am lost i have some but no idea what i am burbling about :evil: \m/[/QUOTE]

Math metal? :confused: ohwell \m/ :evil: \m/

sickgoregrind_666 05-17-2004 05:53 AM

[QUOTE=paddy_undefeated]Math metal? :confused: ohwell \m/ :evil: \m/[/QUOTE]
Isn't math metal bands like the red chord, the dillinger escape plan. the locust and the end?

Vitriolic Rage 05-17-2004 06:00 AM

[QUOTE=mattdobson2001]im not sure if anyone else has mentioned this (most probably) coz i just skipped to the end after 3 or so pages,

i think Mudvayne come under Math Metal along with almighty Meshuggah!
i cant quite explain Math metal right now the words are there but putting them down is hard (way too little sleep last night!) I thinks a sub-genre of Industrial, math metal i think math metal is a crazy mix of tempos, nothing seems to be in time but they are all running in time, Nothing by Meshuggah is a good example of this
Fuk i am lost i have some but no idea what i am burbling about :evil: \m/[/QUOTE]
Math Metal, wtf? :confused:

PearlDrumsTay 05-17-2004 10:03 AM

You left out cradle for black metal man!! wheres the lamb of god for some death/american?! PEACE (Nice work on the set up though, keep it up!)
-th

mattdobson2001 05-17-2004 03:36 PM

Hey i didnt make up the term "math metal" i read it some where on allmusic.com and it seemed pretty good term for some of those bands. :evil: \m/


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