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OrangeLightning 02-20-2008 03:58 PM

Go Go Go !!!!

the_pure_drummer 02-24-2008 01:14 PM

C'mon man :)

Just some new pics?

ebe9 02-29-2008 07:03 PM

[QUOTE=the_pure_drummer;16025439]C'mon man :)

Just some new pics?[/QUOTE]


Would love to, but my main computer is in the shop at the moment, so have no real was of getting pics off my camera and onto my machine for upload.

I should have it back by the end of next week, and if that is the case I promise loads of pictures.

Son of Magni 02-29-2008 08:25 PM

[QUOTE=ebe9;16050361]Would love to, but my main computer is in the shop at the moment, so have no real was of getting pics off my camera and onto my machine for upload.

I should have it back by the end of next week, and if that is the case I promise loads of pictures.[/QUOTE]

What, you can't use your laptop or your secondary computer? :)

ebe9 03-01-2008 02:31 AM

[QUOTE=Son of Magni;16050673]What, you can't use your laptop or your secondary computer? :)[/QUOTE]

Its a work machine, and they monitor the software installed on it unfortunately.

SoM, just wanted to ask you a question as you have a lot more experience in lutherie than myself.

Would I need to ground the bridge?

purple_hazer 03-01-2008 03:33 AM

im guessing yes because everysingle guitar ive worked on electronics wise has a bridge ground

run on sentences suck :[

ebe9 03-01-2008 06:09 AM

[QUOTE=purple_hazer;16051753]im guessing yes because everysingle guitar ive worked on electronics wise has a bridge ground

run on sentences suck :[[/QUOTE]


Well I am busy cleaning my Warwick, and since i had the strings off I thought I might as well take a look at the bridge cavity.

Sure enough, there is a grounding wire running from the cavity to the control cavity.

So by that reasoning, if it's good enough for Warwick, it had damn sure well be good enough for me. :thumb:

Son of Magni 03-01-2008 12:54 PM

I don't ground my bridges. Some builders do, some don't. If your controls are shielded well enough there really is no need. Personally I don't like being around piles of electronic equipment with my left hand hanging onto an earth ground.

The best thing to do in your case would be to run a wire from your bridge to the controls compartment and don't hook it up. After you have everything else done and can play it you can always hook it up if you feel you're picking up too much emi.

Of course, it only makes a difference while you're touching the strings.

sunshineplaysbass 03-01-2008 10:27 PM

yeah, if you just used foil shielding in the cavities you should be able to just connect a ground wire to that and i believe it will have the same effect.

ebe9 03-02-2008 02:53 AM

[QUOTE=Son of Magni;16053204]I don't ground my bridges. Some builders do, some don't. If your controls are shielded well enough there really is no need. Personally I don't like being around piles of electronic equipment with my left hand hanging onto an earth ground.

The best thing to do in your case would be to run a wire from your bridge to the controls compartment and don't hook it up. After you have everything else done and can play it you can always hook it up if you feel you're picking up too much emi.

Of course, it only makes a difference while you're touching the strings.[/QUOTE]


Thanks.

Recon I will do that, then if I need to I can ground it.

I will be "sealing" the entire control cavity in copper shielding tape, and potentially the pickup cavities if I have any left over.

ebe9 03-15-2008 12:04 PM

Well, photos and visual updates have been a long time coming for this project, so thanks for the patience and all that good stuff.

Now onto the pictures...

Overview shot of the project:

[IMG]http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f305/ebe9/EUB%20Project/IMG_2799.jpg[/IMG]


Close up of the body, front (your might notice the odd lump just below the bidge pickup cavity, I will get into that shortly)

[IMG]http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f305/ebe9/EUB%20Project/IMG_2800.jpg[/IMG]


Close up of the body, rear

[IMG]http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f305/ebe9/EUB%20Project/IMG_2808.jpg[/IMG]


Close up of the headstock with brass nut

[IMG]http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f305/ebe9/EUB%20Project/IMG_2803.jpg[/IMG]

ebe9 03-15-2008 12:12 PM

More pictures...


Vertical shot of the project

[IMG]http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f305/ebe9/EUB%20Project/IMG_2804.jpg[/IMG]


Close up of the input jack area

[IMG]http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f305/ebe9/EUB%20Project/IMG_2805.jpg[/IMG]


Close up angled shot of the brass nut

[IMG]http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f305/ebe9/EUB%20Project/IMG_2807.jpg[/IMG]


Fun and games with broken screws shot

[IMG]http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f305/ebe9/EUB%20Project/IMG_2806.jpg[/IMG]

Okay basic strory behind this fun little episode.

I marked and drilled the holes for the bridge screws in order to mount the bridge and to ensure that everything looked good.

The first bit of fun came when I was drilling the hole for the grounding wire, the drill bit snapped and I had to dig it out, no worries.

The next entertaining thing was as I screwed in the screws supplied with the bridge, one of the decided to snap, so I was left with the body of the screw burried in the wood and the head in my hand.

I tried just about everything to remove it before I had to give up, drill holes around it and forcibly remove it.

I then drilled out the smalle holes to make one big one, and plugged it with an epoxy. Once that has fully hardened, I will sand it smooth and redrill the hole.

Luckily I have located some nice brass coloured screws that I can use instead of the bridge supplied ones.

Oh, and one final thing, the oil mark on the bottom right of the bass happened by accident, I rested the bass on a pieceof cloth that had been used to wipe up some oil.

Hopefully it should not be an issue when I finish the bass.

Son of Magni 03-15-2008 12:35 PM

You have a big nut :amaze:

Something that you always have to be careful about with hardwoods, holes need to be drilled one or two sizes larger than with pine. I've snapped off a couple screws myself in the process of learning this :p

ebe9 03-15-2008 12:42 PM

[QUOTE=Son of Magni;16110525]You have a big nut :amaze:

Something that you always have to be careful about with hardwoods, holes need to be drilled one or two sizes larger than with pine. I've snapped off a couple screws myself in the process of learning this :p[/QUOTE]


Yep, big nut......... :thumb:

Thing was I had drilled the holes to about the width of the screw without its threading part included, i.e the width of the core.

Oh well, **** happens, but hopefully it shall all turn out well.

End of the day I will most likely try to sell this, and use the money from that to build a 6 string fretless.

hazletbassist89 03-15-2008 09:44 PM

lmao, it's definitely starting to come together. keep goin' strong

blizzard 03-21-2008 06:48 AM

That looks great so far. Given up on the idea of a EUB for yourself?

ebe9 03-21-2008 05:40 PM

[QUOTE=blizzard;16133457]That looks great so far. Given up on the idea of a EUB for yourself?[/QUOTE]

I suppose I might keep it at the ends of the day, but am curious to se if it would sell.

I am also looking at how feasable it would really be, since what I would really want is a 6er.

Akira 03-21-2008 05:56 PM

Shaun, you are challenging JP for the slowest build ever.

I am curious to see how this will look all strung up and upright.

ebe9 03-21-2008 06:15 PM

[QUOTE=Akira;16135932]Shaun, you are challenging JP for the slowest build ever.

I am curious to see how this will look all strung up and upright.[/QUOTE]

Yeah I know, part a combination of working a full time job and only getting to work on it weekends, and lso trying to do other stuff.

Spazzout22 03-21-2008 10:31 PM

I still love it! It's shitty when stuff goes wrong, but in the end, only the builder really notices that stuff... I love the way the headstock is made. Did I tell you that? Cuz I really do!

Son of Magni 03-22-2008 10:16 AM

[QUOTE=Akira;16135932]Shaun, you are challenging JP for the slowest build ever.

I am curious to see how this will look all strung up and upright.[/QUOTE]

I think you have to approach 'forever' to challenge JP on that.

Polyamarous 03-22-2008 12:55 PM

[QUOTE=Akira;16135932]Shaun, you are challenging JP for the slowest build ever.

I am curious to see how this will look all strung up and upright.[/QUOTE]

True story, although he hasn't charged anyone inordinate amounts of money and then fu[COLOR="Black"]c[/COLOR]ked off.

:rolleyes:

ebe9 03-23-2008 05:20 PM

[QUOTE=Spazzout22;16136891]I still love it! It's poopty when stuff goes wrong, but in the end, only the builder really notices that stuff... I love the way the headstock is made. Did I tell you that? Cuz I really do![/QUOTE]

Thank you.

ebe9 03-24-2008 10:15 AM

Well I did not do too much on the project this weekend, mainly hung out with friends and enjoyed the Easter break.

I did do the following though..................


Overview of the project, yes it is sort of strung up with some plastic cord that I have to give an idea of what it will look like with the actual strings.

[IMG]http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f305/ebe9/EUB%20Project/IMG_2879.jpg[/IMG]


Close up of the body, as you can see the brindge is now successfully mounted after the previous broken screw incident, the epoxy filler worked very nicely.

[IMG]http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f305/ebe9/EUB%20Project/IMG_2880.jpg[/IMG]


Angled shot of the body with focus on the bridge.

[IMG]http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f305/ebe9/EUB%20Project/IMG_2882.jpg[/IMG]


A final one of the body with the bridge.

[IMG]http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f305/ebe9/EUB%20Project/IMG_2886.jpg[/IMG]

ebe9 03-24-2008 10:20 AM

And some more pictures.....


Overview of the headstock.

[IMG]http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f305/ebe9/EUB%20Project/IMG_2881.jpg[/IMG]


Angled shot of the headstock. You will see that the false strings break over the nut as they are supposed to, and then again over the wood of the headstock. I knew this was going to be an issue, and i will be re-shaping the headstock in this area to compensate, or cut some channels for the strings, depending on what might look better.

[IMG]http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f305/ebe9/EUB%20Project/IMG_2884.jpg[/IMG]


Shot to show the spacing of the strings when they first encounter the fingerboard, and yes they do sit quite far from the edges, ideally needed a bigger bridge, but hipshot does not make larger than 0.750 spacing I believe.

But its all good ;-)

[IMG]http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f305/ebe9/EUB%20Project/IMG_2887.jpg[/IMG]


Shot of the spacing further up the neck as the strings hit the nut. As you can see there is better spacing here.

[IMG]http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f305/ebe9/EUB%20Project/IMG_2888.jpg[/IMG]


Well thats all for now, but it gives you an idea of how it will look strung up.

Chilifanthatsme 03-24-2008 01:24 PM

I tried asking this early, but i wasn't very clear. Basically;

[IMG]http://i25.tinypic.com/2zrnoxz.png[/IMG]

Was that bit meant to be like that? Looks like you slipped or something, like a nick out of the horn.

ebe9 03-25-2008 09:23 AM

[QUOTE=Chilifanthatsme;16144537]I tried asking this early, but i wasn't very clear. Basically;

[IMG]http://i25.tinypic.com/2zrnoxz.png[/IMG]

Was that bit meant to be like that? Looks like you slipped or something, like a nick out of the horn.[/QUOTE]

No nick there, its just the fact that it straightens a little suddenly that makes it look like a nick.

I still have to do some final finishing and sanding so can potentially have a look at that. thanks for pointing it out.

hazletbassist89 03-25-2008 01:33 PM

looking great, keep the updates coming :thumb:

OrangeLightning 04-12-2008 03:29 PM

Please Finish This Thing!!!

sunshineplaysbass 04-13-2008 01:11 PM

looks real nice. headstock is sweet, but i'd get a small piece of similar wood for a truss rod cover, i donno if you had that planned or not.

and,
i really like your tile floors


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