[QUOTE=Kage] My only complaint is sort of that it branches just a little too much away from the NIN style. It's more rock-ish and riff-driven it seems.
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Uh....

So was: Last, Wish, Head Like a Hole, Down in it, Hurt, March of the Pigs, Sin, Happiness in Slavery, Kinda I Want Too....etc

T-rez has written some incredible and catchy hooks, I'm not sure I see your point.

Either way, THTF is teh pwn, and so are the other tracks I've heard off the album.

[QUOTE=Kage]heh...yep. You should be able to crack our code a little better with madeyadams' list, but you haven't seen the worst. I'm a massive NIN fan, and on some NIN boards it gets rediculuous, where I have to sit and think for a few minutes of what acronym they're using. You get used to it though.

For example, see if anyone can name this:
ATPALU

And Sliptallica, have you seen the current update at NIN.com? There's a new video for THTF (The Hand That Feeds). If you haven't, you should check it out.[/QUOTE]

All the Pigs, All Lined Up :x

I'm quite dissapointed by the hand that feeds. I sincerely hope it's one of the weaker songs on the album.

I like THTF. It's catchy. It's also got Dave Grohl on it, from what I can tell as it sounds similar to his style.

[QUOTE=Kaden]I'm quite dissapointed by the hand that feeds. I sincerely hope it's one of the weaker songs on the album.[/QUOTE]

Has it been released officially yet?

Aye, the video (promo video or the full music video remains to be seen) is up on nin.com

[QUOTE=vashts80]All the Pigs, All Lined Up :x[/QUOTE]

Da[COLOR=White]m[/COLOR]n, nice work :)


[QUOTE=The_Shredder]Uh....

So was: Last, Wish, Head Like a Hole, Down in it, Hurt, March of the Pigs, Sin, Happiness in Slavery, Kinda I Want Too....etc

T-rez has written some incredible and catchy hooks, I'm not sure I see your point.

Either way, THTF is teh pwn, and so are the other tracks I've heard off the album.[/QUOTE]

I guess my explanation was inadequate. It's riff-driven in a different way than normal. Those songs you listed aren't even particualry riff-driven, aside from Last, Wish, and Hurt. The whole of TF was guitar-driven, but not so much riff driven, and in a different way than THTF.

I never said anything about catchiness either.

And yes, I love the song. I can't wait for the album

PS don't fuc[COLOR=White]k[/COLOR]ing "Uh" me on NIN. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.

[QUOTE=Kage]

PS don't fuc[COLOR=White]k[/COLOR]ing "Uh" me on NIN. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.[/QUOTE]

- Hahahahaha!

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HAHAHAH!

Why? Because I don't have a Trent Reznor avatar? Don't pull this "my di[COLOR=White]c[/COLOR]k is bigger" [COLOR=White]shi[/COLOR]t with me kiddy. I didn't give you any attitude, so you can kindly shut your "know it all mouth". You don't know ANYTHING about my musical tastes, and it would be in your best interest not stop assuming things....

Because [I]you really [/I] have no clue what you're talking about.

And for the record. You're a f[COLOR=White]uck[/COLOR]ing moron. :thumb:
You're holier then thou attitude has made me chuckle through this whole thread.

[QUOTE=The_Shredder]- Hahahahaha!

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HAHAHAH!

Why? Because I don't have a Trent Reznor avatar? Don't pull this "my di[COLOR=White]c[/COLOR]k is bigger" [COLOR=White]shi[/COLOR]t with me kiddy. I didn't give you any attitude, so you can kindly shut your "know it all mouth". You don't know ANYTHING about my musical tastes, and it would be in your best interest not stop assuming things....

Because [I]you really [/I] have no clue what you're talking about.

And for the record. You're a f[COLOR=White]uck[/COLOR]ing moron. :thumb:
You're holier then thou attitude has made me chuckle through this whole thread.[/QUOTE]


Don't start this. I said one thing, but other than that my post wasn't offensive. Oh, I'm sorry, did my little cuss word offend you?

You have no idea about me, either. You call me a little kiddy, when if fact you're quite wrong. All I know is that I've been in this thread and you have not...look back at all the pages and you will see that, yes, I do know what I'm talking about concerning NIN and I think the other regulars in here will vouch for that. So stop coming in here and making your assumptions.

You come in here treating me like a dumbas[COLOR=White]s[/COLOR] because of my opinion, which, I admit was not worded well. I think the thing that I was trying to get at was that it had more of a rock feel (which is undoubtedly true), what with the drums that aren't as heavily synthed as his usual songs. It seemed more like a straight-recorded drum track.

THTF did seem like that was Grohl's work and not a program doing the drums, then again it could be my ears making it seem that way.

[QUOTE=Kage]I'm a massive NIN fan, and on some NIN boards it gets rediculuous, where I have to sit and think for a few minutes of what acronym they're using. You get used to it though. [/QUOTE]
What other forums do you go to? I've messed around on Burning Souls a bit. But thats about it.

[QUOTE=Kage]Don't start this. I said one thing, but other than that my post wasn't offensive. Oh, I'm sorry, did my little cuss word offend you?

You have no idea about me, either. You call me a little kiddy, when if fact you're quite wrong. All I know is that I've been in this thread and you have not...look back at all the pages and you will see that, yes, I do know what I'm talking about concerning NIN and I think the other regulars in here will vouch for that. So stop coming in here and making your assumptions.

You come in here treating me like a dumbas[COLOR=White]s[/COLOR] because of my opinion, which, I admit was not worded well. I think the thing that I was trying to get at was that it had more of a rock feel (which is undoubtedly true), what with the drums that aren't as heavily synthed as his usual songs. It seemed more like a straight-recorded drum track.[/QUOTE]
To both you guys, lets not start this in here ok? :thumb: Thanks.
And I agree with Kage when he says he knows what he is talking about, because I learned a hell of alot from him :) But then again I'm not saying That The Shredder is a dumbas[SIZE=2]s[/SIZE] either. But yeah, lets keep this on NIN stuff :thumb:

/completely off topic, I just thought I would say that.

:EDIT: Fixed

[QUOTE=magicaltroll834]To both you guys, lets not start this in here ok? :thumb: Thanks.
And I agree with Kage when he says he knows what he is talking about, because I learned a hell of alot from him :) But then again I'm not saying That Kaden is a dumbas[SIZE=2]s[/SIZE] either. But yeah, lets keep this on NIN stuff :thumb:

/completely off topic, I just thought I would say that.[/QUOTE]

The argument was with The_Shredder.

Oops... Well still :thumb:

So you still not digging THTF? The more I listen to it, the more I like it. It's really gotten me intensively impatient for the new album (can't wait until March 30th). I especially like the end stretch where he's saying "Will you bite the hand that feeds, Will you stay down on your knees?" or something to that effect.

I still get the feeling that it's not all that represenative of the album, so don't worry too much if you don't like it.

Yeah, I don't know its growin on me, its still not my favorite song or whatever. But its pretty cool. Yeah, I figured the album wouldnt be like that, but I was kinda worrying for like... an hour. haha.
I can't wait for March 30th either, so you can tell us about it :p

so many people on soulseek have the with teeth album. but for every one user theyve d/l so many different versions of the so called white teeth album.

i guess they got tricked many times

[QUOTE=Orp's Capsule]so many people on soulseek have the with teeth album. but for every one user theyve d/l so many different versions of the so called white teeth album.

i guess they got tricked many times[/QUOTE]
Yeah, thats why most of the time I wait for the new album, but for me, if its just a song or two, I'll download them (like some of you know...)

[QUOTE=Kage]So you still not digging THTF? The more I listen to it, the more I like it. It's really gotten me intensively impatient for the new album (can't wait until March 30th). I especially like the end stretch where he's saying "Will you bite the hand that feeds, Will you stay down on your knees?" or something to that effect.

I still get the feeling that it's not all that represenative of the album, so don't worry too much if you don't like it.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I watched the THTF for the first time last night, I didn't like it at all - my second time listening to it and now I like it. I'm sure the more I listen to it the more I will like it.

What happens on March 30th? Listening party type thing?

[QUOTE=EliteX7]Yeah, I watched the THTF for the first time last night, I didn't like it at all - my second time listening to it and now I like it. I'm sure the more I listen to it the more I will like it.

What happens on March 30th? Listening party type thing?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, KAGE is gonna tell us about... aren't you Kage? :evil: haha
But yeah, it's a listening party by where he lives i guess, and he is going to hear the new album. Wish I could go to one.

THTF is growing on me...

man the hand that feeds is one catchy song, it's i've been listenin to for a while and can't turn it off

[QUOTE=magicaltroll834]Yeah, KAGE is gonna tell us about... aren't you Kage? :evil: haha
But yeah, it's a listening party by where he lives i guess, and he is going to hear the new album. Wish I could go to one.

THTF is growing on me...[/QUOTE]


Yep, I can't wait for it. I'll be sure to fill you in on everything, without spoiling too much. I'll be very interested to see how THTF fits in to the album as whole, and if the rest of the album is in that style. I hope for some more TDS style twisted, build-up songs though.

[QUOTE=Kage]Yep, I can't wait for it. I'll be sure to fill you in on everything, without spoiling too much. I'll be very interested to see how THTF fits in to the album as whole, and if the rest of the album is in that style. I hope for some more TDS style twisted, build-up songs though.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I liked how TDS had like sort of breakdowns, like in Mr. Self Destruct around 1:50, and in Ruiner around 2:45, and so on. Man I love those parts in the songs... Especially the guitar solos and everything. So cool.

But yeah, I'm hoping for some of that and maybe some pissed off/angry songs, because I just love the heavier NIN.
But I also can't wait to hear this albums "Hurt" type song :thumb:

I downloaded The Hand that Feeds from Limewire, and it kicks ***. He went back to the Downward Spiral days with this one. May 5th can't get here fast enough.

[QUOTE=corporalclegg]I downloaded The Hand that Feeds from Limewire, and it kicks ***. He went back to the Downward Spiral days with this one. May 5th can't get here fast enough.[/QUOTE]
I don't think he went back to TDS at all, I actually think this isn't really like anything he has done so far.

First post on here but just had to comment on all the great NIN posts/interest...

I gotta say TDS is by FAR my favorite album of all time....ive never found anything i could relate to more on a personal level and be consistently amazed with musically since i bought it and listened to it all the way through in '97....

Its really a toss up for me between Ruiner, and Eraser for the best hard nin song, and Hurt is definitly the best down keyed on....

Its really all about Ruiner tho....

you had all of them on your side
didn't you?
didn't you?
you believed in all your lies
didn't you?
didn't you?

the ruiner's got a lot to prove
he's got nothing to lose
and now he made you believe
the ruiner's your only friend
well, he's the living end to the cattle he deceives
the raping of the innocent
you know the ruiner ruins everything he sees
now the only pure thing left in my ****ing world is wearing your disease

how'd you get so big?
how'd you get so strong?
how'd it get so hard?
how'd it get so long?

you had to give them all a sign
didn't you?
didn't you?
you had to covet what was mine
didn't you? (didn't you?)
didn't you? (oh)

the ruiner's a collector
he's an infector
serving his **** to his flies
maybe there will come a day when those that you keep blind will suddenly realize
maybe it's a part of me you took it to a place i hoped it would never go
and maybe that ****ed me up much more than you'll ever know

how'd you get so big?
how'd you get so strong?
how'd it get so hard?
how'd it get so long?
and what you gave to me
my perfect ring of scars
you know I can see
what you really are

you didn't hurt me, nothing can hurt me
you didn't hurt me, nothing can stop me now


When it goes into the hard bridge at the end of the catchy sarcastic verse....trent goes into this almost hip/hop "rage against the machine" flow of lyrics....its mixed so that you can barely hear what hes saying over all the noise but if you listen the the lyrics and how he flows those last lines "mabey it was a part of me you took it to a place i hoped it would never go........and mabey that ****ed me up much more than you'll ever know"

And when he hits the chorus....listen to how BIG the sound gets with the horns and the higher almost Pretty Hate Machine synth part to the left speaker.....with the bass and everything its such a huge sound.....

Then Trent gets RIGHT up on the mic and cups it to get the smallest sound possible, and pans it all the way right....

This is the best example i have ever seen of a musician painting an image of a scene with not only the lyrics, or the music, but also the sheer mixing and recording of the album....

Hes asking the ruiner, this huge source of pain and deciete in the narrators life...i kinda see the ruiner as a person in your life who keeps everyone wrapped around their finger by spreading lies and pretending to be what everyone wants to idolize. A person who moves into your life and takes everything from you.

He's the only one who really see's what this person is all about and he's hoping that everyone else will eventually see what he see's.

I havent decided yet if this person is a reflection of the narrator or an actual person in the narrators life.....

But everyone of NIN's albums is mixed and recorded amazingly and the style in which trent records everything and mixes it is specific for each song....TDS just seems to highlight that fact a bit more to me i guess....

jeez...longest first post ever^. how long did that take you?

Actually Kage's interpretation of the entire TDS was longer than mine i think....

That was a badass interpretation by the way Kage....very very similar to my own...

EDIT: Oh, and ya that didn't take me that long at all really, because i've always thought that every time i hear Ruiner and it came on the playlist.....

Welcome Madelobe.
And man, I'm confused about the new album now, my moms boyfriend bought me a rollingstone magazine, and it has an article on With Teeth with Trent discussing 2 songs.

It turns out "Only" (the one I thought would be like 'Hurt') is actually an upbeat kinda song I guess. So now I have no clue what could be the next "Hurt".

Other than that, nothing really new in there I didn't already know.

Thanks,

And i dont think there will ever be another hurt....i mean johnny cash covered it for gods sakes....(right before he died no less.....have any of you guys read what trent wrote on the access page of nin.com about that?....its pretty intense)

Anyway, i dont think we will ever have another slow, beautifull nin song that is that ****ing bitter and reflective at the same time....its amazing....

Although "and all that could have been" would be the contender i suppose....thats amazing as well.....but less personal to me i guess...