does anyone here own salival?? Id very much like to know what it encompasses.

Oh, and if you have a chance to pick up APC's "lost in the bermuda triangle", don't. IMO it sucks beyond belief. It doesnt even hardly feature the band at all.

My friend has Salival and i think that its strange but very good i love the new version of Push-it they did, good ****

I have Salival. It comes in a box set, awesome artwork. A book of like 50 + pages of artwork. A cd, that has 8 tracks. The live version of Pu**** is awesome. Its aamzing. Very relaxing. Then theres a dvd with 4 of their music videos on it. If you're a tool fan. You should get Salival. A must have. It's awesome.

here are some autographed Danny Carey pics. I recently got to meet him @ a Pigmy Love Circus concert :)

[url]http://drumrock.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2877&PN=8[/url]

[QUOTE=deadohiosky9]I have Salival. It comes in a box set, awesome artwork. A book of like 50 + pages of artwork. A cd, that has 8 tracks. The live version of Pu**** is awesome. Its aamzing. Very relaxing. Then theres a dvd with 4 of their music videos on it. If you're a tool fan. You should get Salival. A must have. It's awesome.[/QUOTE]

I have the Salival CD/DVD as well, its basically a collectors item now. I actually keep it in a fire-proof safe, I feel its that difficult to replace in the like new condition it is in. I copied it all as soon as I got it, returned it to its case and put it away. The accompying book is full of alot of artwork and it really interesting. You can buy this on EBAY now for about 100 bucks or less, if your a die hard Tool fan and want something really cool ya should check it out.

[QUOTE=Stagefrightken]I have the Salival CD/DVD as well, its basically a collectors item now. I actually keep it in a fire-proof safe, I feel its that difficult to replace in the like new condition it is in. I copied it all as soon as I got it, returned it to its case and put it away. The accompying book is full of alot of artwork and it really interesting. You can buy this on EBAY now for about 100 bucks or less, if your a die hard Tool fan and want something really cool ya should check it out.[/QUOTE]
i just wanted to point something out... cdnow.com almost always has used or like new copies of salival for about $85 and you dont even have to worry about outbidding someone. (and for the record, the dvd actually has 5 music videos: hush, sober, prison sex, stinkfist, and Ænema)
[url]http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000541I5/qid=1092043753/sr=8-4/ref=sr_8_4/002-6080388-8744857?v=glance&s=music&n=507846[/url]
maybe ill come back and post an analysis of some lyrics a little later... too late right now...

I saw Tool 2 years ago and it was the best concert I've been to by far. I love how Adam Jones is just mesmerized the whole time. I heard about them releasing a dvd last year. I hope they come close to where I live when they release their new album. Danny said that their new album will be even more mathy than usual and will be extremely complex. They already have recorded one song and he said its the most complex and technical song Tool has ever done. I'm looking forward to hearing it.

:amaze: Salival is that rare and expensive? :( thats a shame for everyone that gets into tool pretty late, i was hoping to buy salival, undertow and opiate when i get my job. I'm all upset now :upset: how much was salival when it was first released?

man im pretty sure that the record shop down the road still has salival. I'll check

Reflection

I have come curiously close to the end, down
Beneath my self-indulgent pitiful hole.
Defeated, Concede and move closer. I may find comfort here
I may find peace within the emptiness.
How pitiful.
(It's calling meee. 3x)
It's calling meeeeee

And in my darkest moment, fetal annnnd weeeeping.
The moon tells me a secret.
My confidant.
As full and bright as I am, this light is not my own
A million light reflections
pass over me
It's source is bright and endless. She resuscitates the hopeless.
Without her we are lifeless satellites driiiiiifting.
And as I pull my head out I am without one doubt
Don't want to peer down here serving my narcissism
I must crucify the ego before it's far too late
I pray the light lifts me out
(before I pine awaaaay. 3x)
pine away.
before I pine awaaaaaaaay.

{8:48}
So crucify the ego before it's far too late
To leave behind this place so negative and blind and cynical
And you will come to find that we are all one mind
Capable of all that's imagined and all conceivable.
Just let the light touch you and let the words spill through
Just let them pass right through, bringing out our hope and reason.

before we pine away. pine away
before we pine away. pine away
before we pine away. pine away
before we piiiiiine away.



I am a very big fan of Tool ever since i was about 7 or 8 and I love them so much because they actually put thoughts into their lyrics. Most bands these days just jumble **** down like ****in Good Charollete. Reflection is probably one of my favorite songs because It has this sense of diabolically clever lyrics. His voice also makes my skin crawl and i love the bass riff.

[QUOTE=bobthesalesclerk]here are some autographed Danny Carey pics. I recently got to meet him @ a Pigmy Love Circus concert :)

[url]http://drumrock.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2877&PN=8[/url][/QUOTE]

you fuc[SIZE=2]k[/SIZE]in azzhole!
god.
lucky as[SIZE=2]s[/SIZE]

how the hell did you get to do all of that. who did you have to ....uh nevermind. cool pics by the way. goddam i love danny. he's alien on the drums. looks like he did some sacred geometry too? or was that yours?
Lucky motherfu[SIZE=2]c[/SIZE]ker.

Yes, Salival is a collector's item. I got into Tool late also. I just bought Salival on Ebay for 69.95 ( buy it now button), but some of the bids got up to the 80's. But go to Ebay if you want it. Its awesome.

i just went on amazon and they have new copies of salival for £20...but instead of dvd it's video...would that be the only difference or is there something extra on the dvd version??

and to the second guy who wanted the tool book i have just sent it to ya so enjoy :thumb:

ok...when reading the tool book i had a few ideas floating round my head and here they are:

-one of them was concerning the song "jimmy"...perhaps the age of 11 was chosen because of the changes MJK was experiencing at that time due to puberty etc...perhaps the "face of your own stability" is some sort of reference to how everything was changing compared to when he was a child and everything was stable and less complicated...and perhaps the changes were causing the loss of relationship with the female he refers to...

-another was that of a possible connection between aenima (the track) and eon blue apocalypse...the links between an armageddon and an apocalypse and the blue of eon blue apocalypse and the lines "learn to swim" in aenima...

-the only other one i can remember right now is of how aenima (the track) conjours up images of noah's ark in my head...a flood ("learn to swim") ending the world ("armageddon")...and if "mom" is perhaps a god then it does appear to me to make sense...

whatcha think??

[QUOTE=bebubly]i just went on amazon and they have new copies of salival for £20...but instead of dvd it's video...would that be the only difference or is there something extra on the dvd version??

and to the second guy who wanted the tool book i have just sent it to ya so enjoy :thumb:[/QUOTE]

...and I have sent my words of gratitude :thumb:

The DVD contains the bonus CD of the live songs/covers/rarities, and I dont think the video does. But it still contains all but 2 videos, and I would still want a copy as a collectors item myself.

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]...and I have sent my words of gratitude :thumb:

The DVD contains the bonus CD of the live songs/covers/rarities, and I dont think the video does. But it still contains all but 2 videos, and I would still want a copy as a collectors item myself.[/QUOTE]

thank you for your words of gratitude :thumb: hehe...

i have a feeling i shall order it...£20 isn't that much...

Ya if you don't mind getting a video instead of DVD, it'll be alot cheaper.

I have a question. I read someting about Tool and Enochian Magic Board. What is Enochian?

[QUOTE=deadohiosky9]I have a question. I read someting about Tool and Enochian Magic Board. What is Enochian?[/QUOTE]

[url]http://www.schuelers.com/enochian/[/url]

Its basically a magical/belief practice. I've actually taken a few things from it myself. Plus its a language (For example, the last track on Lateralus is translated as 'Voice of God')

Thanks. Ya it seems to be quite relaxing from what I've read. Do the members of Tool practice this?

I know Danny and Maynard do. Danny's drum artwork and layout is all based on Enochian ideas. Plus if you dig around the official Tool site, the editor (the infamous Blair) once had a strange experience from a ritual. Ill try and find it actually

O really? Ya I noticed at Danny's site, a lot of Enochian stuff. The rituals seem very relaxing. I might try one. It would be interesting to read about Blair's experience. Thanks.

[QUOTE=deadohiosky9]O really? Ya I noticed at Danny's site, a lot of Enochian stuff. The rituals seem very relaxing. I might try one. It would be interesting to read about Blair's experience. Thanks.[/QUOTE]

woa buddy. Enochian is angel magic. its not something to dabble with. The angels that brought it said the same thing. you might want to do some research before you start reciting random keys and shlt. plus the enochian magic board has to be handmade by the angels specific measurments. theres lots of bible bumpers around here, but Enoch was in the bible. you know what happened to that guy? (reportedly) lol. occult is intending to manipulate spiritual environments. and Enochian is strong shlt. dont just read a music site and think its cool and decide to to do. you might want to read about it first from different sources. one being the Book of Enoch.

Man im really pissed about salival now, i will pin it no.1 on my crimbo list. A new dvd version. :) When do you guys think APC/Tool will tour next?

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD][url]http://www.schuelers.com/enochian/[/url]

Its basically a magical/belief practice. I've actually taken a few things from it myself. Plus its a language (For example, the last track on Lateralus is translated as 'Voice of God')[/QUOTE]


Note that this site presents an edited version. probably because the original intent of the angels that presented it was never fully understood, and the system was never fully delivered. so be careful.

[QUOTE=deadohiosky9]Thanks. Ya it seems to be quite relaxing from what I've read. Do the members of Tool practice this?[/QUOTE]

:lol:

dont stop reading.

Fvck with the wrong tower or the wrong order and it wont be relaxing. Trust me.

[QUOTE=Merkaba-1]Note that this site presents an edited version. probably because the original intent of the angels that presented it was never fully understood, and the system was never fully delivered. so be careful.[/QUOTE]

I dont get involved in the deeper spiritual elements of it, as some of the accounts of people who have tried it are concerning (some people being mentally damaged by experinces they had from dreams for example).But it does contain a lot of interesting information and ideas. And yes, im aware it isn't a full on site, it really does only give minor insights, it was a good site to introduce a person to it.

Ya you're right. I shouldn't do random stuff with it. Thanks for the warning.

[QUOTE=bebubly]ok...when reading the tool book i had a few ideas floating round my head and here they are:

-one of them was concerning the song "jimmy"...perhaps the age of 11 was chosen because of the changes MJK was experiencing at that time due to puberty etc...perhaps the "face of your own stability" is some sort of reference to how everything was changing compared to when he was a child and everything was stable and less complicated...and perhaps the changes were causing the loss of relationship with the female he refers to...

-another was that of a possible connection between aenima (the track) and eon blue apocalypse...the links between an armageddon and an apocalypse and the blue of eon blue apocalypse and the lines "learn to swim" in aenima...

-the only other one i can remember right now is of how aenima (the track) conjours up images of noah's ark in my head...a flood ("learn to swim") ending the world ("armageddon")...and if "mom" is perhaps a god then it does appear to me to make sense...

whatcha think??[/QUOTE]

jimmy-
spelled with no capitalization on purpose to signify his level/disposition at the time. jimmy, nickname for James. he was left in ohio with his uncle at age 11, by his mother. for reasons im not sure of. he was molested by his uncle there. and by dealing with it and coming to terms he is also reuniting with that part of his childhood left behind. 11, til 1 and 1 are one...as with 11. as in making yourself whole, by dealing, and healing, understanding to "both move on together". now go listen to it again.

aenima is about people being caught up all the hype of material living, and needed to be cleansed by learning to swim, in the the spiritual waters. "dont just call me pesimissitic, try to read between the lines" and also talking about the theories of an asteroid hitting the planet and the whole california will fall into the ocean shlt and how people are all caught up in it, and losing their material shlt. and he is welcoming the change of any armageddon, because armageddon is a natural, cyclical cleansing process. occuring about every 3500 years, or whenever our second suns orbit is. The blue star, as in all the ancient texts, that brings about changes on the planet. and "blue as our new second sun" . that combined with the red star/planet x theory. who knows huh? :thumb:

I'd did a little searching on the net and I think I found one of the combinations for the lateralus album (6,7,5,8,4,9,13,1,12,2,11,3,10). All it made me feel was a little:evil:agressive:angry:. Any way, isn't the lateralus some sort of tendent/muscel located either in the shoulder or some where around in the back.:confused:Rather interesting, why would the album be named after a tendent/muscell, and does [I]Manyerd[/I] keep the same mystery/secrets hidden in [U]A PERFECT CIRCLE [/U] albums:confused:.