[QUOTE=korn-head]Yea bt i still love slipknot, but too back you up corey said he hated the way korn had a softer approach but yet come there next album they follow the same pattern, so again he is a hypocritical person.[/QUOTE]


That wasnt his beef with Korn whatsoever.His problem was that Korn puts out weak albums that lack the creativity or passion present in s/t and Life is Peachy.They go into the studio and make recycled crap that the Korn kids will gobble up.Its no longer about being a musician to them.

[QUOTE=feedthegods666]alright, here goes
the new album is good, dont get me wrong, but theyre making a BIG BIG mistake going even more mainstream than they already were. if you go to their website ([url]www.black-goat.com[/url]) and go to song meanings, then go to heretic anthem. you'll see Corey said he doesnt give "one rat f[COLOR=White]u[/COLOR]ck about what the radio thinks. then one album later NO SWEARS, MTV FRIENDLY, MTV FRIENDLY MUSIC VIDEO...what?! i just dont get it, kind of contradictin themselves there...[/QUOTE]

Honestly, I don't think any of it is radio friendly, other than Duality...well, maybe Vermilion Pt. 2, but so what?

I've heard songs from all three albums, and I like Vol 3's musicianship and mature sound better. Alot of the older stuff sounded like noise to me, not music.

So what if they didn't swear? Honestly, hearing "f[color=white]u[/color]ck" fifty million times in a song does not make it any better than the song that doesn't.

welcome,three nil,opium of the people are great songs and i don't think they'll ever play those songs on the radio

I really gotta figure out how to evade the filter.But anyway,Vermilion pt.2 is a song about a stalker's psychotic obsession."I wont let this build up inside of me"doesnt mean he's gonna ask her out on a date.....it means he's gonna kill her.To have her.Thats a pretty Slipknot-ish song meaning if you ask me.Its a cool song because it doesnt come across as such a dark song.I truely believe that cuss words cheapen the hell out of a song.Really,Slipknot prolly felt that way when writing this album.I think it meant enough to them to keep it swear free.

[QUOTE=The JoZ]Honestly, I don't think any of it is radio friendly, other than Duality...well, maybe Vermilion Pt. 2, but so what?

I've heard songs from all three albums, and I like Vol 3's musicianship and mature sound better. Alot of the older stuff sounded like noise to me, not music.

So what if they didn't swear? Honestly, hearing "f[color=white]u[/color]ck" fifty million times in a song does not make it any better than the song that doesn't.[/QUOTE]

it doesnt have excessive swearing. i dont really care if there arent swears, but theres barely any screaming or anything. i know six year olds who like the new album but hate the old stuff. what about Before I forget? thats WICKED radio friendly. i LOVE slipknot, but im just sayin it like it is.

6 year olds digging Slipknot>angsy 13 year olds digging Slipknot.

Why,because 6 year olds dont claim being dark and they dont lable themselves as maggots.I used to listen to Doors albums when I was 6,because I liked the music.Isnt that what music is meant for?Forget all that "oh they used to scream but now they are radio friendly"crap.Its music.Enjoy it.When it comes down to it,it seems 6 year olds have a much better understanding of music than 13 year olds.

[QUOTE=relliK]6 year olds digging Slipknot>angsy 13 year olds digging Slipknot.

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Dude thats awesome :thumb: *writes down formula*

u dunt even know how old i am do you....

[QUOTE=feedthegods666]u dunt even know how old i am do you....[/QUOTE]

15? not faraway from 13

[QUOTE=KingofDudes]15? not faraway from 13[/QUOTE]

right e o!
but im not 13....
but whatever
if you noticed i said i still LOVE slipknot, theyre still a great band, but i was pretty much saying going mainstream is gonna bite them in the @ss a few years from now

Im not talking about you in particular,just them little maggot fanboys that worship Slipknot like the little girlies worshiped nsync.There is alot of them.They give Slipknot and the fanbase a bad name.

[QUOTE=feedthegods666]right e o!
but im not 13....
but whatever
if you noticed i said i still LOVE slipknot, theyre still a great band, but i was pretty much saying going mainstream is gonna bite them in the @ss a few years from now[/QUOTE]

How so?

[QUOTE=relliK]Im not talking about you in particular,just them little maggot fanboys that worship Slipknot like the little girlies worshiped nsync.There is alot of them.They give Slipknot and the fanbase a bad name.[/QUOTE]

oh ok. cuz i definitely realize there are lots of little pussies who adore slipknot

[QUOTE=relliK]How so?[/QUOTE]

when they try to go back to their old style. the little teeny bopper maggots will be right behind them, but everyone else is gonna realize that theyre trying to erase ever going mainstream in the first place. just an OPINION though

If another album even goes down.Which I dont believe will.But I didnt believe this album was gonna go down so what do I know?Anyway,who said that they will go back to their old style?They may just go a whole nother direction on the next one.You gotta understand,the same formula doesnt work consecutively.Take Austin Powers,the first 2 flicks generated buzz everywhere and were hilarious,Goldmember was crap.No one uses jokes from there because it was nothing but recycled jokes from the first 2.Could you really be happy with a recycled Slipknot album?I wouldnt be.Thats when bands go down the drain,they follow the same money making criteria from their previous albums,and fail miserably.Slipknot has made the right moves on album releases to stay at the top of their game.I salute them for it.

meh, as i said, personal opinion

please dont let this thread die

[QUOTE=relliK]If another album even goes down.Which I dont believe will.But I didnt believe this album was gonna go down so what do I know?Anyway,who said that they will go back to their old style?They may just go a whole nother direction on the next one.You gotta understand,the same formula doesnt work consecutively.Take Austin Powers,the first 2 flicks generated buzz everywhere and were hilarious,Goldmember was crap.No one uses jokes from there because it was nothing but recycled jokes from the first 2.Could you really be happy with a recycled Slipknot album?I wouldnt be.Thats when bands go down the drain,they follow the same money making criteria from their previous albums,and fail miserably.Slipknot has made the right moves on album releases to stay at the top of their game.I salute them for it.[/QUOTE]

Honestly, I could see them doing another album, simply because, from what I can tell, Volume 3 is doing really well...why would you walk away from something that's successful?

The first two albums sounded very similar. The formula seemed to be exactly the same every time. Open with a riff from Mick, have Jim copy that, bring in Paul, rest for a second, then go insane with everyone beating on or playing something at high speeds. This may not apply to EVERY one of their older songs, but still.

The new album does not follow that pattern. In fact, aside from the low tuning, I don't think, for the most part, that Volume 3 sounds anything like the s/t or Iowa. And for guys like me, who like their music to have some melody, and be clear and concise, this was a good thing. I have actually been getting into some older Slipknot now, but I still think some of their songs are just noise.

I think that if they do another album, it needs to be on the same level as Volume 3 or better. They tried some new things, and to be honest, I think they did a d[color=white]a[/color]mn good job of it.

I was talking to someone the other night...imagine of the members of Slipknot all had the qualities, of, say, an uber technical band like DT. Imagine what 9 guys who played with the ability of Dream Theater, but as intense as their older stuff would be? I dare say, they would blow everyone out of the water. But alas...[/Random]

[QUOTE=The JoZ]
I was talking to someone the other night...imagine of the members of Slipknot all had the qualities, of, say, an uber technical band like DT. Imagine what 9 guys who played with the ability of Dream Theater, but as intense as their older stuff would be? I dare say, they would blow everyone out of the water. But alas...[/Random][/QUOTE]

If they had such ability and musical knowledge they would be far different than Slipknot(and thats a good thing to me). Imagine the guy that hits the keg with a bat having the musical knowledge and talent of Dream Theater :eek:

haha the thought of shawn hitting the keg with the musical knowledge and talent of someone like john petrucci would be funny as ****.Though the knowledge of steve vai woul dbe better.He would meditate and make sure he was spiritually in balance the bat before smacking the keg.

[QUOTE=The JoZ]Honestly, I could see them doing another album, simply because, from what I can tell, Volume 3 is doing really well...why would you walk away from something that's successful?[/QUOTE]

I dont know,they have said that they want to walk away on a high note,they dont wanna hang around too long.They may do another album,considering they never planned to do more than 1 album when they first started.Here they are 5 years later still going.So maybe.The first time I listened to Vol.3 from top to bottom it sounded like a suicide note.It sounds like a good farewell,or a good indication that Slipknot is here to stay.It gave me both those vibes.

Anyway,videos for Vermilion pt.1 and 2 got shot this weekend.Those being my 2 favorite songs off the album,Im pretty exited to see them.

One things far sure, it will take a hell of a lot of time to be released. Slipknot not fans are likey to be subjected to all the controversy that occured prior to volume 3. However, i one for sure really hope they do release it mainly because i want to see how they will cope with the difference to the first 2 albums. Also i love them and i want them 2 contineing touring so i can see more shows.

Lol
 

Reading half of these nonsensicle *knows that isnt a word* posts have made me laugh a few times....slipknot is great....every member has a special part...and they overall are just awesome....MICK IS FRIGGEN GOD!!\m/

I listened to Slipknot before anyone ever heard of them...their first album was good and went downhill from their. Iowa and their 3rd cd both suck. Corey is a sellout and the band went soft. I don't care much for nu metal at all anymore. You people should try listening to Underoath, Hopesfall, Converge, Dillinger Escape Plan or something like that. Anyways....there's my two cents

[QUOTE=Ph34r_m3]Dear gods you people are stupid. 'maggots of the Knot?' Then again i shouldn't discourage your description of most slipnknot fans.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=DeathWishZero]I listened to Slipknot before anyone ever heard of them...their first album was good and went downhill from their. Iowa and their 3rd cd both suck. Corey is a sellout and the band went soft. I don't care much for nu metal at all anymore. You people should try listening to Underoath, Hopesfall, Converge, Dillinger Escape Plan or something like that. Anyways....there's my two cents[/QUOTE]

Eh,Vol.3 is alot closer to what Slipknot was before 1999.Corey's vocal performance in the Crowz demos is very simular to the approach he uses in Vol.3.All the screaming and simple powerchords was more Ross Robinson than Slipknot.Ross really limited this band,he built a box around them as to what Slipknot should or should not sound like.I hate him.He is responsible for all that nu metal that came out and molded Slipknot into one of them.He forced them to remove their solos and made them a one dimensional band.Slipknot is now far better without him behind the boards.

[QUOTE]I listened to Slipknot before anyone ever heard of them...their first album was good and went downhill from their. Iowa and their 3rd cd both suck. Corey is a sellout and the band went soft. I don't care much for nu metal at all anymore. You people should try listening to Underoath, Hopesfall, Converge, Dillinger Escape Plan or something like that. Anyways....there's my two cents[/QUOTE]
Someone's not that smart I can see. How is Corey is a sellout? What, bands can't change their sound once in a while, and listen to Underoath, are you stupid. Maybe their older albums because it was really heavy, but now they are a emo band and why would you tell someone who listens to metel to listen to an emo band. It doesn't make sense.

[QUOTE=Everything_and_Nothing_3:15]Someone's not that smart I can see. How is Corey is a sellout? What, bands can't change their sound once in a while, and listen to Underoath, are you stupid. Maybe their older albums because it was really heavy, but now they are a emo band and why would you tell someone who listens to metel to listen to an emo band. It doesn't make sense.[/QUOTE]


Yeah,the Underoath Ive heard was all emo as hell,I was gonna point it out but didnt due to lack of knowledge of the band.

Yeah Underoath was a sick band, until there their most recent album.

i don't know a lot of slipknot but duality kicks so much ***