My favorite songs on Ænima are probably Stinkfist, H., Pu****, and Ænema, and I love the fillers on Ænima. Who cares if they're fillers? They're still cool.

Also, on the live Third Eye, its Timothy Leary at the beginning, in case you ever listen to it.

Do you guys like the live version of Pu****?

[QUOTE=magicbus]
Do you guys like the live version of Pu****?[/QUOTE]
It's only the greatest song ever. Theres been a long debate about whether Pu**** Live is greater then Third Eye Live. I choose the former.

I haven't heard a single Tool song that was good, I've heard some that were average. But most were so very bland and boring. :-/

[QUOTE=Superpeer]I haven't heard a single Tool song that was good, I've heard some that were average. But most were so very bland and boring. :-/[/QUOTE]
Have you heard Lateralus? That one's pretty epic.

Heh, I don't really remember which songs I have heard. But I remember that they all bored me, some more than others.

[QUOTE=Superpeer]Heh, I don't really remember which songs I have heard. But I remember that they all bored me, some more than others.[/QUOTE]
:upset:

Same goes for APC. But at least they have less fanboys.

:lol: Oops, I could've sworn this was the community thread, sorry guys.

*backs off*

*Brandishes Knife...*

Meh tool aren't for everyone, but they are definateley an album band...

Check out aenima if you have a chance

[QUOTE=conciousuniverse]
I guess it seems heavy. I can understand that its a lot of information to
BTW, some people were saying they didnt like the 'filler' material on the albums, someone also wrote that the intro to 'third eye' was too long... man, i could write many things, but ill just request that you listen to "ticks and leeches" on repeat, until you get it.[/QUOTE]

I love Ticks & Leeches, its one of my fav tracks off of Lateralus and I also love Third Eye, I didn't say it was a bad thing to have a long intro but having 3:59 min of static before it (-ions) was.. a little pointless.

Superpeer, I take it you aren't a prog rock fan and you aren't patient.

Songs that right to the point are 46 & 2, Stinkfist, Intolerance, Sober, and Hooker With a ***** etc. If you like just those types of songs then you wouldn't like Lateralus at all.

Ænima and Undertow are my favorite albums but I like Lateralus too.

I know it's a haven for fanboys etc in here, but critiscising someone opinion just because you like a band is pretty foolish...-rep

Indeed, i think the h4xd fans find a small thread and run with it...

A couple of pages back i posted something i read on toolshed about messages coming from adam danny and justin in ticks + leeches. I cannot see how anyone could purposefully write that into the music, and alot of these little bits of info are either coincidental or not 100% correct.

If that was directed at me, I wasn't criticizing his opinion. Just asking if he had listened to those songs. I can understand if you don't like a band, but those songs are ANYthing but boring.

Hey, anyone got any news on tools latest realease, i've read all i can on toolband to find out, but no new info's come up in a while i really can't wait till it comes out, some of the new stuff thats been described sounds amazing, like the song known as lk (working title.) Anyway anyone got any clues?

Toolbands jelly bean article is the onyl inof we have....

[QUOTE=Street Spirit (Fade Out)]It's only the greatest song ever. Theres been a long debate about whether Pu**** Live is greater then Third Eye Live. I choose the former.[/QUOTE]

I choose Push-it live over Third eye, the Salival Push-it is probably one of my favorite songs. :cool:

Superpeer is hXc.

I'll take Third Eye studio but Pu$hit live.

pu**** live definetly (sp?)

I'm sorry but Third Eye live is just incredible. Am I correct in saying that P[COLOR=White]shi[/COLOR]t live is the one where they do a different rendition of the song?

Third Eye, definately.

Third Eye Live is a million times better than the Aenima version. Same with Pushi[b][i][/b][/i]t.

Third Eye live > All forms of Push[color=white]i[/color]t IMO :cool:

[QUOTE=The JoZ]Third Eye live > All forms of Push[color=white]i[/color]t IMO :cool:[/QUOTE]

123.

[QUOTE=The JoZ]Third Eye live > All forms of Push[color=white]i[/color]t IMO :cool:[/QUOTE]

deffinetly

I'm listening to Third Eye live right now...I just don't know how you could overlook the greatness of this.

third eye live and studio sound pretty close to me, but to make third eye sound that good live is amazing

ive never heard Third Eye live, but i love the album version

[QUOTE=Fernandes Power]I really want to get into TOOL... I went on the website though, and it seemed so pretentious and false... almost like they were just having a bit of fun with it (band member profiles specifically).[/QUOTE]

I thought the same thing too before I got into them some years back. Somebody here said it perfectly: you have to discern when they're being serious and when they aren't.

Die Er Von Satan is tongue and cheek, for example. I love that filler song, btw.

Eulogy, a serious song, in my eyes, is very intelligent and truthful.

Third Eye has some philosophy behind it and may come off as pretentious.

For those of you who missed this post.

[URL=http://www.vanillacircus.net/book/tool_book.pdf]" TOOL : A Book of Interpretations "[/URL]


Slowly, but surely yall are coming around.

"Since the one thing we can say about fundemental matter is that it is vibrating. And since all vibration is theoretically sound, then it is not unreasonable to suggest that the universe is music and should be percieved as such" ......uni-verse......- Joachim Ernst-Berendt

"Some people go to church, I go to Tool concerts." -Andy Augspurger

(Do you hate people?)
"Pretty much, I would have to say absolutely."
(Why?)
"Ignorance." - MJK

"I think psychedelics play a major part in what we do, but having said that, I feel that if somebody's going to experiment with those things they really need to educate themselves about them. People just taking the chemicals and diving in without having any kind of preparation about what they're about to experience tend to have no frame of reference, so they're missing everything flying by and all these new perspectives. It's just a waste. They reach a little bit of spiritual enlightenment, but they end up going, 'Well, now I need that drug to get back there again.' The trick is to use the drugs once to get there, and maybe spend the next ten years trying to get back there without the drug." - MJK

"They are known to make people feel better, so that's our feel good song of the record..." Danny Carey on (-)ions.

"...kids will mosh to anything these days, but there are those people in the crowd that the music reaches on a deeper psychological and subconscious level..." - Danny Carey

"Our music is designed to inspire - to create thought - and no matter where we are, and how many people may be in the audience, that's where our efforts go." - Adam Jones

"...if you listen carefully you can hear the rubble subsiding into a glorious new landscape. Only then are you afforded the clarity of mind essential to pry open your third eye..." - Justin Chancellor

"Cause you know, if you play New Kids on the Block albums backwards, they sound better. "Oh come on, Bill, they're the New Kids, don't pick on them, they're so good and they're so clean cut and they're such a good image for the children." **** that. When did mediocrity and banality become a good image for your children? I want my children to listen to people who ****ing rocked." -Bill Hicks


"CAUTION: Proper use of the brain is not endorsed by federal governments nor huge corporations involved in serious financial profit from a brainwashed and enslaved population. Mild discomfort may occur as confusing independent thought challenges your current view of the world...Information is power. THINK FOR YOURSELF." -Timothy Leary

The push it live version is awesome. my choice. and hey dream theater guy how about you chill out on calling people retards ok? be nice

[QUOTE=conciousuniverse]"CAUTION: Proper use of the brain is not endorsed by federal governments nor huge corporations involved in serious financial profit from a brainwashed and enslaved population. Mild discomfort may occur as confusing independent thought challenges your current view of the world...Information is power. THINK FOR YOURSELF." -Timothy Leary[/QUOTE]

"Think for yourself, question authority." I think that's Timothy Leary's favorite motto. He says it like 4 million times in this book I'm reading by him.

magicbus, that "caution" quote is so important for people to grasp or at least be exposed to.

Here in Austin, Tx we have ACTV where you can make your own TV shows, Timothy Leary pioneered this program, for our freedom. Old clips of Bill Hicks come on a lot, Alex Jones (conspiracy theorist) and lots of other enlightening locally created shows are aired. Anyway, the cable monopoly is consolidating all of the ACTV channels and trying to stiffle our creative outlet. Leary is rolling in his grave.


Here some different Tool icons and such:
[URL=http://www.picgames.com/buddy-icons/buddy-icons.php?s=Tool&page=1]Tool Themes[/URL]

ENjoy

I think Leary is just a little bit too cynical for my tastes.

I would hesitate to label tracks like "useful idiot" or "(-) ions" filler. Music is an awful lot more than just a little box of conventions. Just because a recording produced by a rock band doesnt have vocals, guitars, etc, doesn't mean there can't be meaning or merit to it.

[QUOTE=Maynard's Dick]I would hesitate to label tracks like "useful idiot" or "(-) ions" filler. Music is an awful lot more than just a little box of conventions. Just because a recording produced by a rock band doesnt have vocals, guitars, etc, doesn't mean there can't be meaning or merit to it.[/QUOTE]

I agree, I have trouble calling the "fillers" on both AEnima and Lateralus fillers, because I really think they add to the album as a whole. Granted, they're not exactly songs, but I still think they are more brief insight into the greater meaning of what is being portrayed from song to song.

I definately agree with you Kage.
I think that sometimes its necessary to communicate a message in an unconventional way. To that end, sometimes an album should be thought of as more than just a collection of songs but as one piece of music.

The songs have meaning, sure... They transition to other songs. But they don't have any depth at all. Ions is JUST static. They're filler songs, deal with it.

In Chains is right.